Moral Dilemma (Received Intel 3930k by mistake)

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rprice999

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10 Years ago I was a PC enthusiast with decent gear etc, spent a lot of time gaming. Now I mostly do Lightroom Photo work, Sony Vegas editing of home movies and some light gaming.

Anyhow - I ordered an entry Level gaming card from Newegg and it arrived yesterday. I opened the package and there is my new Card...along with another CPU box. At first I thought it was an empty box, promotion for Intel or something. Nope - there's the chip. Hmm i7 (cool, I know those are "good"). 3930k - hmm that number sounds pretty pedestrian to me...let me check this thing on Newegg to see what I got.

WOW. Ok this is a $550+ processor, yikes!

So now what do I do?

1 - Call up Newegg and notify them of their mistake, see if they offer me something in return for being an "honest guy". Perhaps be awarded later in life from good Karma.

2 - Keep the Proc, and sell it or dump $400 into a new MB, cooler, and Ram that will actually support this beast.

Thoughts? Does this sort of thing happen often/ever?!!?
 
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The fact that you are on here asking what to do should give you the answer.

In case it's still not obvious on what you should do, contact Newegg to offer to send it back to them.
 
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When you played Monopoly and received a bank error in your favour, did you return the $200 to the bank? :)
 
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Newegg shipped me someone else's order once. I ordered a small part, cost maybe $10, but they shipped me a box inside a box that held around $500 worth of misc computer parts. The inside box was addressed to be sent to some guy in Florida.

I called newegg and told them they shipped me the wrong order. But they wouldn't believe me! The rep argued it wasn't their order that got sent to me.

I had to take pictures and scan the invoice and submit all the data to Newegg before they would believe me that some guy in Florida did not get his stuff and that I did.

In the end Newegg finally believed me :rolleyes: like I was making it up or something. So they sent me packing label to ship it back and my conscience was clean.

Here's the thing OP - you can't cheat an honest man. If you are not honest about this, if you think you are getting away with something for nothing, then be prepared for this to cascade in ways you cannot envision.

Consider this - the guy that packed your order has access to your shipping records. What are you going to do if he put that in there on purpose as a means to get the CPU outside, then he hunts it down and "retrieves" it from you? Probably not, but the mind of a criminal works in weird ways.

If I found a suitcase full of $10m in cash I'd leave it exactly where I stumbled across it because it will probably belong to someone who has a lot of badasses working for him and I want none of that when they come looking for it.

If I were in your shoes I'd tell Newegg pronto and get as far away as possible from whatever is going on there. At best you are looking at scoring a $500 CPU, at worse it could be a very dangerous thing to get mixed up in if it was slipped into your box on purpose.
 
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Face2Face

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Just send it back. There is enough pieces of shit in this world. Don't join the ranks..
 
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It is no mere coincidence, Santa is real and he sent you an early Christmas present packaged in a Newegg box. :biggrin:

If you had to ask for opinions on this matter, it is pretty clear that your conscience is telling you that keeping it is not the right thing to do.
 
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I'm not sure how to weigh in on this. It is obviously a "moral" issue, and I often consider "moral" issues from an amoral perspective.

By itself, the reseller made a mistake at the warehouse. The reseller -- a corporation -- succeeds or fails according to how it reduces or allows mistakes to occur. From the "free-market" perspective, the responsibility is all theirs.

Obviously, if you don't return the processor, it has a residual, incremental effect on all of us. The reseller must cover its costs; their mistake might mean a response that increases prices slightly to all of us.

At the moral end of things, I or anyone might feel compelled to send it back. Did you "steal" it? Even for outright theft, it would be rational to consider the probabilities from a purely self-interested point of view. There's a "probability of detection," a "probability of apprehension," a "probability of arraignment," and probabilities leading to trial and the outcome of a trial. You don't face any of these things -- at the moment. You only face the peace of mind for your own moral judgment.

If I find a $100 bill on the sidewalk, with no indication as to the owner, I'll keep it. But you can identify the owner of the i7-3930K. They probably don't have the slightest idea that the retail box is missing, or that you didn't order it. They may find out "something" when they run a periodic inventory check, discovering that somewhere, at some time, they made a mistake.

Do what serves your peace of mind. But IDontCare has some other observations about factors relating to your own self-interest -- which also alters some of the probabilities I cited.

Reminds me of that film with Walter Mathau -- "Charlie Varrick." When Joe Don Baker beats up Varrick's partner in crime (Andy Robinson -- the psycho in Dirty Harry), asking the whereabouts of the money they stole which the bank "wasn't supposed to have" in the first place, the poor fellah finally says "you mean that Mah-fi-ya money?" And his lights go out after the silenced hollow-point splits his skull.

Who knows the ultimate ramifications? But who knows the trouble you will endure, trying to be an honest man?

I almost wish you hadn't asked. But if you chose to do the "wrong" thing, you should have the foresight to order your socket-2011 motherboard from another reseller! Or -- sell the damn thing for cash only! And don't come to the forums whining about your dilemma! :D

"Petty theft" is still distinguished from "felony grand theft" by a $500 demarcation -- long overdue for revision, perhaps, but it helps keep the lid on theft in general.

By the way. It wasn't but a couple years ago that a NewEgg executive was arrested for embezzling millions from the company to use in his gambling exploits in Las Vegas.
 
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Idontcare said:
Consider this - the guy that packed your order has access to your shipping records. What are you going to do if he put that in there on purpose as a means to get the CPU outside, then he hunts it down and "retrieves" it from you? Probably not, but the mind of a criminal works in weird ways.
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I appreciate you weighing in and agree with your comments related to honesty. Thanks for your point of view! However the above situation does not concern me. I am not a shipping expert but in order to ship thousands of orders a day as quickly as they do I HAVE to image there are no human hands touching anything during the boxing process.

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They probably don't have the slightest idea that the retail box is missing, or that you didn't order it. They may find out "something" when they run a periodic inventory check, discovering that somewhere, at some time, they made a mistake.
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I totally agree here.


Finally I probably should have made a different subject line, it's not a Moral "dilemma" because there is one clear solution which is acceptable form a moral point of view.

I think I am going to ask my wife to get her point of view too.
 
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rprice999 said:
Finally I probably should have made a different subject line, it's not a Moral "dilemma" because there is one clear solution which is acceptable form a moral point of view.

I think I am going to ask my wife to get her point of view too.
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Why do you think they call wives "your better halves?" :biggrin:
 
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Send it back. Don't want to risk it since I would assume it would never have a valid warranty either.

When I purchased my GTX 670 last week it was supposed to come with Borderlands 2.. instead I received a copy of Winzip 16 Pro compliments of AMD.

Called newegg and they sent me a copy of BL2 and told me to keep the Winzip as a gift. Maybe they will do the same for you :D
 
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return it, but i would ensure they don't charge you a return and/or restocking fee.
 
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troll thread.

A moral person would have posted a story about how they returned it already.
An immoral person would not have posted anything at all and would have posted a "new uber build thread" already.


this?

I smell someone is working on a school assignment or something.
 
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pauldun170 said:
troll thread.

A moral person would have posted a story about how they returned it already.
An immoral person would not have posted anything at all and would have posted a "new uber build thread" already.


this?

I smell someone is working on a school assignment or something.
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OP might just be on the fence. Life isn't always black and white...

OP - do t right hing and return it to newegg, provided they let you (based on IDC's exp). ;)
 
Despoiler

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I'd return it for the simple fact that they probably are able to backtrack the CPU and then you are on the hook for $550.
 
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Despoiler said:
I'd return it for the simple fact that they probably are able to backtrack the CPU and then you are on the hook for $550.
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I don't believe that they can do this. This is a completed transaction and amounts to trying to charge more for the original order (in retrospect) than agreed. If Newegg did try and place another charge you would dispute and get the unauthorized charge rejected; credit cards offer a lot of consumer protection this way.

As indicated earlier it is a question of morals...... I think by posting here you have asked the group what to do and the answer has been that the morally correct thing to do is contact Newegg and return it [if for example Newegg was not willing to cover the return shipping then I would then feel morally ok in keeping it!].
 
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Kenmitch

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In the end its your decision to make.

Bad karma isn't a good thing and works in mysterious ways. I'd give them a call and let them know what happened. Worst case scenario you just ship it back to them. Its a high dollar item so who knows you might get a freebie or two.
 
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