Moore's latest EXXXploitation crushed by Disney Co.

syzygy

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aaah, the corporate conspiratorialists have circled the wagons and are defending their actions to
block the latest liberal poop pile presented by his eminence m. moore. bravo.

ny times story

moore should have made enough money from his exploitation fests to qualify as a multinational
in his own right and he can fund and smear his latest poop pile with his own ill-gotten riches.

imagine, little children being diverted from mickey and minnie's latest adventures by this
ideological pornography ! eeek !
 

chess9

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Eisner is only worried about Jeb Bush and the radical right wing Florida Legislature removing some tax bennies. Eisner is a plutocrat, not a Republican. :)

-Robert
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: syzygy
aaah, the corporate conspiratorialists have circled the wagons and are defending their actions to
block the latest liberal poop pile presented by his eminence m. moore. bravo.

ny times story

moore should have made enough money from his exploitation fests to qualify as a multinational
in his own right and he can fund and smear his latest poop pile with his own ill-gotten riches.

imagine, little children being diverted from mickey and minnie's latest adventures by this
ideological pornography ! eeek !
So according to you it's best to censor this tripe than to let the American Public judge it for what it is?
 

syzygy

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: syzygy
aaah, the corporate conspiratorialists have circled the wagons and are defending their actions to
block the latest liberal poop pile presented by his eminence m. moore. bravo.

ny times story

moore should have made enough money from his exploitation fests to qualify as a multinational
in his own right and he can fund and smear his latest poop pile with his own ill-gotten riches.

imagine, little children being diverted from mickey and minnie's latest adventures by this
ideological pornography ! eeek !
So according to you it's best to censor this tripe than to let the American Public judge it for what it is?

well, if there is any meat to moore's anti-corporate stance, and if he's half-conscious to the rules of engagement with these corporate monsters, then disney's decision to withhold distribution should
not surprise. besides, doesn't moore's reliance on any corporate master make him a hypocrite ?

worse still, moore is a stinky fat cat now. liberalism pays today, and the boy appears wider
around the middle today than he did yesterday. so he doesn't have to dig to deep into his
pocket to recoup his 'independence', cut off the corporate umbilical cord, and regain his
small measure of principle, even if he has to buy it with his own money.
 

DashRiprock

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: syzygy
aaah, the corporate conspiratorialists have circled the wagons and are defending their actions to
block the latest liberal poop pile presented by his eminence m. moore. bravo.

ny times story

moore should have made enough money from his exploitation fests to qualify as a multinational
in his own right and he can fund and smear his latest poop pile with his own ill-gotten riches.

imagine, little children being diverted from mickey and minnie's latest adventures by this
ideological pornography ! eeek !
So according to you it's best to censor this tripe than to let the American Public judge it for what it is?

Like what happened to Mel Gibson and "The Passion of the Christ"? He shopped it around and no one would touch it so he put up his own money and the rest is history. Let's see if MM has the same convictions and put his money where his mouth is.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: syzygy
aaah, the corporate conspiratorialists have circled the wagons and are defending their actions to
block the latest liberal poop pile presented by his eminence m. moore. bravo.

ny times story

moore should have made enough money from his exploitation fests to qualify as a multinational
in his own right and he can fund and smear his latest poop pile with his own ill-gotten riches.

imagine, little children being diverted from mickey and minnie's latest adventures by this
ideological pornography ! eeek !
So according to you it's best to censor this tripe than to let the American Public judge it for what it is?

well, if there is any meat to moore's anti-corporate stance, and if he's half-conscious to the rules of engagement with these corporate monsters, then disney's decision to withhold distribution should
not surprise. besides, doesn't moore's reliance on any corporate master make him a hypocrite ?

worse still, moore is a stinky fat cat now. liberalism pays today, and the boy appears wider
around the middle today than he did yesterday. so he doesn't have to dig to deep into his
pocket to recoup his 'independence', cut off the corporate umbilical cord, and regain his
small measure of principle, even if he has to buy it with his own money.
Whatever, I was just commenting about Disney's actions giving Moore's movie publicity that it might not otherwise have had. Personally I've never seen any of his movies nor am I interested in seeing them.
 

NesuD

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Originally posted by: chess9
Eisner is only worried about Jeb Bush and the radical right wing Florida Legislature removing some tax bennies. Eisner is a plutocrat, not a Republican. :)

-Robert

Just Because Moore's agent said that was the reason doesn't make it true.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: NesuD
Originally posted by: chess9
Eisner is only worried about Jeb Bush and the radical right wing Florida Legislature removing some tax bennies. Eisner is a plutocrat, not a Republican. :)

-Robert

Just Because Moore's agent said that was the reason doesn't make it true.

CNN attributed it those comments to Eisner as well. CNN and FOXNews quote generic "Disney execs" as saying Disney caters to all political stripes so they do not want to alienate anyone by distributing Moore's film.
 

Moonbeam

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Jesus is in for a rude awakening when he returns to give the message. He won't get any corporate sponsors and nobody will ever hear of him.

The only thing that matters is the bottom line. If you don't figure on the bottom line you're dead.

Everybody's real and secret dream is to become the asshole who has everything. For that dream we trade our lives.

I used to own the universe but Mommy told me no.

Why do people fear the truth when they are completely protected from it by the conditioning of their own minds. The truth is completely invisible.
 

Chris A

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Perhaps Disney should look to the future. They could develop a Michael Moore theme ride. Hell set it up between Mr. Toads wild ride and Cinderella's castle. Sell little M. Moore hats at the mad hatters shop... Possibilities are endless.
 

chess9

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NesusD:

I'm in Mousetown. :) We have other sources.

But, yes, I heard it on CNN as well, so it must be true. :)

-Robert
 

chess9

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Moonbeam:

Yup, and no one wants to hear the truth. Do you? :) I don't. If I actually heard all the "truths" people had about me and others I'd probably slit my wrists. :)

-Robert
 

leeboy

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Originally posted by: syzygy
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: syzygy
aaah, the corporate conspiratorialists have circled the wagons and are defending their actions to
block the latest liberal poop pile presented by his eminence m. moore. bravo.

ny times story

moore should have made enough money from his exploitation fests to qualify as a multinational
in his own right and he can fund and smear his latest poop pile with his own ill-gotten riches.

imagine, little children being diverted from mickey and minnie's latest adventures by this
ideological pornography ! eeek !
So according to you it's best to censor this tripe than to let the American Public judge it for what it is?

well, if there is any meat to moore's anti-corporate stance, and if he's half-conscious to the rules of engagement with these corporate monsters, then disney's decision to withhold distribution should
not surprise. besides, doesn't moore's reliance on any corporate master make him a hypocrite ?

worse still, moore is a stinky fat cat now. liberalism pays today, and the boy appears wider
around the middle today than he did yesterday. so he doesn't have to dig to deep into his
pocket to recoup his 'independence', cut off the corporate umbilical cord, and regain his
small measure of principle, even if he has to buy it with his own money.

So in YOURSPEAK, yes, he should be censored because you don't like him. Pft, troll eleswhere.:roll:
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: chess9
Moonbeam:

Yup, and no one wants to hear the truth. Do you? :) I don't. If I actually heard all the "truths" people had about me and others I'd probably slit my wrists. :)

-Robert

Maybe if you believe they were the truest of the true. Personally I think you're wonderful. :D
 

Stunt

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personally im disgusted by this, Micheal moore brings some good points to the table and censoring him is stupid. Sure he is left biased, but that doesnt mean he isn;t worth listening to. If u think it is propoganda then tough...look at the 100+ million bush has to spend on right wing propoganda. It's all crap but it should all be out there where americans can draw their own conclusions. there is more fact in his movies than fluff, just let the people access it. This is just ridiculous, only in the US would they pay to make a movie and stop it from being released.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: Stunt
personally im disgusted by this, Micheal moore brings some good points to the table and censoring him is stupid. Sure he is left biased, but that doesnt mean he isn;t worth listening to. If u think it is propoganda then tough...look at the 100+ million bush has to spend on right wing propoganda. It's all crap but it should all be out there where americans can draw their own conclusions. there is more fact in his movies than fluff, just let the people access it. This is just ridiculous, only in the US would they pay to make a movie and stop it from being released.

Remember..a private company doesn't have to distribute or do anything it doesn't want to in regards to what it sells.

Do you honestly think this is the only movie ever made that has never been released?
 

Stunt

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actually it is a publicly traded company and their reasons for censoring are immoral and politically driven. I hate when business gets involved with government.
 

K1052

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Dogma was orignally produced by Miramax, Disney forced them to farm out the release to Lion's Gate Films. Something similar will likely happen here.

Generally, Disney does not lean on Miramax this heavily or this publicly. Moore is just trying to stir sh!t up in the hope that it will help at the boxoffice when it opens.

This is not censorship anyway, if Disney and all of it's units refused to distribute the film I am sure that there is an out in the contract that enables Moore to shop the film around to other film companies.
 

Siddhartha

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Originally posted by: syzygy
aaah, the corporate conspiratorialists have circled the wagons and are defending their actions to
block the latest liberal poop pile presented by his eminence m. moore. bravo.

ny times story

moore should have made enough money from his exploitation fests to qualify as a multinational
in his own right and he can fund and smear his latest poop pile with his own ill-gotten riches.

imagine, little children being diverted from mickey and minnie's latest adventures by this
ideological pornography ! eeek !


Yep, this is another example of the "liberal media" in action.*

*I am not very good at sarcasm.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: syzygy
aaah, the corporate conspiratorialists have circled the wagons and are defending their actions to
block the latest liberal poop pile presented by his eminence m. moore. bravo.

ny times story

moore should have made enough money from his exploitation fests to qualify as a multinational
in his own right and he can fund and smear his latest poop pile with his own ill-gotten riches.

imagine, little children being diverted from mickey and minnie's latest adventures by this
ideological pornography ! eeek !
So according to you it's best to censor this tripe than to let the American Public judge it for what it is?

The American Public is too freaking stupid to see it for what it is. If it's presented in a clever and authoritative manner, they'll think that makes it true.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: K1052
Dogma was orignally produced by Miramax, Disney forced them to farm out the release to Lion's Gate Films. Something similar will likely happen here.

Generally, Disney does not lean on Miramax this heavily or this publicly. Moore is just trying to stir sh!t up in the hope that it will help at the boxoffice when it opens.

This is not censorship anyway, if Disney and all of it's units refused to distribute the film I am sure that there is an out in the contract that enables Moore to shop the film around to other film companies.

Exactly.

CkG
 

onelove

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non-issue. also hard to feel sorry for Moore: why would he get involved with Disney if he was planning to make this film?

I'm sure the final cut will show Moore at Eisner's front gate trying to make some point as Eisner's limo drives by.
 

alchemize

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"The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not 'insurgents' or 'terrorists' or "The Enemey". They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow - and they will win"

Michael Moore
April 2004
The Common Man.
 

Stunt

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It's true...the US are invaders with no reason to be there...i don't get it...resistance will grow, US troops will be slaughtered.
 

CanOWorms

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Moore accused of publicity stunt over Disney 'ban'

Less than 24 hours after accusing the Walt Disney Company of pulling the plug on his latest documentary in a blatant attempt at political censorship, the rabble-rousing film-maker Michael Moore has admitted he knew a year ago that Disney had no intention of distributing it.

The admission, during an interview with CNN, undermined Moore's claim that Disney was trying to sabotage the US release of Fahrenheit 911 just days before its world premiere at the Cannes film festival.

Instead, it lent credence to a growing suspicion that Moore was manufacturing a controversy to help publicise the film, a full-bore attack on the Bush administration and its handling of national security since the attacks of 11 September 2001.

In an indignant letter to his supporters, Moore said he had learnt only on Monday that Disney had put the kibosh on distributing the film, which has been financed by the semi-independent Disney subsidiary Miramax.

But in the CNN interview he said: "Almost a year ago, after we'd started making the film, the chairman of Disney, Michael Eisner, told my agent he was upset Miramax had made the film and he will not distribute it."

Nobody in Hollywood doubts Fahrenheit 911 will find a US distributor. His last documentary, Bowling for Columbine , made for $3m (£1.7m), pulled in $22m at the US box office.

But Moore's publicity stunt, if that is what is, appears to be working. A front-page news piece in The New York Times was followed yesterday by an editorial denouncing Disney for censorship and denial of Moore's right to free expression.

Moore told CNN that Disney had "signed a contract to distribute this [film]" but got cold feet. But Disney executives insists there was never any contract. And a source close to Miramax said that the only deal there was for financing, not for distribution.