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manowar821

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Originally posted by: Born2bwire
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

I'm not sure either way, personally.

EDIT: Also, in after a bunch of pricks.

I really don't understand the propagation of the myth that we can't travel through the radiation belt. But your conviction that the crew could see through eyelids, hull and into space due to X-rays is a good indication on why this nonsense gets propagated.

Hey, I didn't say that it was true, I said that was the "official story".
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
LIES. WE HAVE A SECRET LUNAR LANDER HIDDEN IN AREA 51.

It is conveniently located next to the room containing those in govt responsible for 9/11. And the yellow ryder truck.

And Dick Cheney's weather machine (which they're upgrading to a general purpose natural disaster machine so they can make earthquakes according to dmccowen)
 

foghorn67

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because some people don't like authority of any kind. Whether it's competent or not isn't the issue to them. They feel like subscribing to these theories (theory is an overused, and abused word), makes them feel smarter then the general populace. Then they want to recruit new believers, not for the sake of mankind like most religious people, but for positive reinforcement.
most of the ones I run into, try to fit their beliefs around their crazy lifestyle. They fit into the whole, "down with the man" bandwagon.
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

That sounds like something out of a science fiction story^H^H^H^H^H cartoon. Our eyes see light. X-rays are not in the visible spectrum. How are X-rays going to allow the visible spectrum to pass through a spacecraft and a human eyelid? The X-rays themselves can pass through, but that won't allow you to see through things. Think about how an X-ray machine works. It doesn't make your body transparent. The X-rays pass through and hit a reactive substance much like a camera works. (Edit: I am not a scientist, just a thinker)

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

This isn't secret information or anything. It is openly admitted that we can't do a moon mission now. We don't have a lunar lander. The space shuttle can't land on the moon and take off again. ;)

Indeed, it didn't make sense to me, either. But that's supposedly a story written by someone from inside NASA. I cannot find the proof, naturally, since I don't have government clearance.

I also understand that it's not secret information that we've been told we don't have the technology available for a manned moon mission. I'm not sure if they're talking about the actual devices like you stated, though. The impression I got from that statement was that we're not advanced enough as a species to do it.

I've been wrong before, though. :p
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

I'm not sure either way, personally.

EDIT: Also, in after a bunch of pricks.


Your smoking some prety good stuff to believe any of this bull.
I would love to introduce you to Buzz Aldrin, he would set you straith.

You asked for it!

 

Vic

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Originally posted by: foghorn67
because some people don't like authority of any kind. Whether it's competent or not isn't the issue to them. They feel like subscribing to these theories (theory is an overused, and abused word), makes them feel smarter then the general populace. Then they want to recruit new believers, not for the sake of mankind like most religious people, but for positive reinforcement.
most of the ones I run into, try to fit their beliefs around their crazy lifestyle. They fit into the whole, "down with the man" bandwagon.

The irony is that by subscribing to these theories that they are submitting to authority and in the worst and most primitively religious way possible. See my post above. Primitive humans don't worship their gods, they FEAR their gods. And in every one of these "theories" (and you're right, that's the wrong word, as it gives them more credence than they deserve) government is all-powerful and to be feared.
 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: manowar821
There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

Of course we don't have the technology to go to the moon right now. We stopped working on that technology back in the 70s when the Apollo program ceased. The entire focus of NASA has been on the Space Shuttle, the Space Station, satellites, and probes. They haven't been actively working toward manned missions outside of Earth orbit in decades.

 

foghorn67

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: foghorn67
because some people don't like authority of any kind. Whether it's competent or not isn't the issue to them. They feel like subscribing to these theories (theory is an overused, and abused word), makes them feel smarter then the general populace. Then they want to recruit new believers, not for the sake of mankind like most religious people, but for positive reinforcement.
most of the ones I run into, try to fit their beliefs around their crazy lifestyle. They fit into the whole, "down with the man" bandwagon.

The irony is that by subscribing to these theories that they are submitting to authority and in the worst and most primitively religious way possible. See my post above. Primitive humans don't worship their gods, they FEAR their gods. And in every one of these "theories" (and you're right, that's the wrong word, as it gives them more credence than they deserve) government is all-powerful and to be feared.

Something I can't word better myself.
The immediate and devotional zeal to any 'new' pseudo-theory, makes them look like simpletons.
I honestly try to hear them out...it's important to do so now and then, but their allegiance gets in the way of any rebuttals that might give them credibility.
 

Ns1

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

I'm not sure either way, personally.

EDIT: Also, in after a bunch of pricks.


Your smoking some prety good stuff to believe any of this bull.
I would love to introduce you to Buzz Aldrin, he would set you straith.

You asked for it!

I smoke a ton of good stuff and don't believe any of this bull.
 

Born2bwire

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

That sounds like something out of a science fiction story^H^H^H^H^H cartoon. Our eyes see light. X-rays are not in the visible spectrum. How are X-rays going to allow the visible spectrum to pass through a spacecraft and a human eyelid? The X-rays themselves can pass through, but that won't allow you to see through things. Think about how an X-ray machine works. It doesn't make your body transparent. The X-rays pass through and hit a reactive substance much like a camera works. (Edit: I am not a scientist, just a thinker)

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

This isn't secret information or anything. It is openly admitted that we can't do a moon mission now. We don't have a lunar lander. The space shuttle can't land on the moon and take off again. ;)

Indeed, it didn't make sense to me, either. But that's supposedly a story written by someone from inside NASA. I cannot find the proof, naturally, since I don't have government clearance.

I also understand that it's not secret information that we've been told we don't have the technology available for a manned moon mission. I'm not sure if they're talking about the actual devices like you stated, though. The impression I got from that statement was that we're not advanced enough as a species to do it.

I've been wrong before, though. :p

One of the main problems is that we know how to go to the moon using 1960's technology. The engineering that goes into the vehicles is astronomical due to the tight tolerances and exacting performance requirements. Like on the Saturn V rockets, they had to figure out the actual delay it took for signals to go between devices so that they could signal for ignitions and other sequences ahead of time. So all of the various software and hardware control devices were designed around the specific technology that was being used. We can't just swap out a computer in the Saturn V with a current one and expect to be able to use the same control program due to the changes in performance and behavior. We could go back, dig up all we can from the original moon shots, and try to replicate all the technology. But this would require a lot of work to make the manufacturing tools, and there's no point in using 40+ year old technology (I remember reading that the first moon landing had some trouble with the computer because an extra sensor was left on eating up needed computer cycles). In the end, we still need to start from scratch because we have not developed any lunar landing technology since the Apollo program. We have good ideas on how to solve the problems associated with a lunar landing from Apollo, but we haven't designed any modern solutions.
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

That sounds like something out of a science fiction story^H^H^H^H^H cartoon. Our eyes see light. X-rays are not in the visible spectrum. How are X-rays going to allow the visible spectrum to pass through a spacecraft and a human eyelid? The X-rays themselves can pass through, but that won't allow you to see through things. Think about how an X-ray machine works. It doesn't make your body transparent. The X-rays pass through and hit a reactive substance much like a camera works. (Edit: I am not a scientist, just a thinker)

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

This isn't secret information or anything. It is openly admitted that we can't do a moon mission now. We don't have a lunar lander. The space shuttle can't land on the moon and take off again. ;)

Indeed, it didn't make sense to me, either. But that's supposedly a story written by someone from inside NASA. I cannot find the proof, naturally, since I don't have government clearance.

I also understand that it's not secret information that we've been told we don't have the technology available for a manned moon mission. I'm not sure if they're talking about the actual devices like you stated, though. The impression I got from that statement was that we're not advanced enough as a species to do it.

I've been wrong before, though. :p

Probably that guy who raises cats out in the Southwest.
 

Shawn

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For the same reason people think the government covered up a UFO crash: they are idiots.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

I'm not sure either way, personally.

EDIT: Also, in after a bunch of pricks.


Your smoking some prety good stuff to believe any of this bull.
I would love to introduce you to Buzz Aldrin, he would set you straith.

You asked for it!

I smoke a ton of good stuff and don't believe any of this bull.

:eek:
I appologise to all the good stuff smokers for this reckless generalisation.
 

Descartes

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

That sounds like something out of a science fiction story^H^H^H^H^H cartoon. Our eyes see light. X-rays are not in the visible spectrum.

"Light" is usually used pretty generally, no? I've seen it refer to any wavelength in the spectrum, not just visible light.

How are X-rays going to allow the visible spectrum to pass through a spacecraft and a human eyelid? The X-rays themselves can pass through, but that won't allow you to see through things. Think about how an X-ray machine works. It doesn't make your body transparent. The X-rays pass through and hit a reactive substance much like a camera works. (Edit: I am not a scientist, just a thinker)

That is indeed pretty silly, but I think he just articulated it wrong. I do recall astronauts talking about "seeing" things while sleeping. What they saw were little pulses of light in their eyes. These pulses were later determined to be from cosmic particles, protons of a certain wavelength (whether they were x-ray or not, I don't recall; doubt it). Anyway, the eye doesn't care how the protons hit the cones/rods, so it will transmit those impulses to the visual cortex just as it would if your eyes were open.

 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

I'm not sure either way, personally.

EDIT: Also, in after a bunch of pricks.


Your smoking some prety good stuff to believe any of this bull.
I would love to introduce you to Buzz Aldrin, he would set you straith.

You asked for it!

Read the rest of my responses before talking to me like an illiterate ass. You're pretty cocky for attacking the wrong person.

I'd also like to ask a side question, since I'm on the subject. Do the rude and facetious responders here get a hard-on from acting like this, or is it simply an automated response trained into you from birth? Just wondering! ;)
 

JulesMaximus

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

I'm not sure either way, personally.

EDIT: Also, in after a bunch of pricks.


Your smoking some prety good stuff to believe any of this bull.
I would love to introduce you to Buzz Aldrin, he would set you straith.

You asked for it!

Read the rest of my responses before talking to me like an illiterate ass. You're pretty cocky for attacking the wrong person.

I'd also like to ask a side question, since I'm on the subject. Do the rude and facetious responders here get a hard-on from acting like this, or is it simply an automated response trained into you from birth? Just wondering! ;)

No, we just find it difficult to believe that anyone takes the crackpots who think the moon landings were just a big hoax seriously.

Weren't you PWNED enough in my last thread about this topic back in June?

Allow me to refresh your memory...
 

manowar821

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Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

I'm not sure either way, personally.

EDIT: Also, in after a bunch of pricks.


Your smoking some prety good stuff to believe any of this bull.
I would love to introduce you to Buzz Aldrin, he would set you straith.

You asked for it!

Read the rest of my responses before talking to me like an illiterate ass. You're pretty cocky for attacking the wrong person.

I'd also like to ask a side question, since I'm on the subject. Do the rude and facetious responders here get a hard-on from acting like this, or is it simply an automated response trained into you from birth? Just wondering! ;)

No, we just find it difficult to believe that anyone takes the crackpots who think the moon landings were just a big hoax seriously.

Weren't you PWNED enough in my last thread about this topic back in June?

Allow me to refresh your memory...

Never said I believed it.

I said it was suspicious.

Call it devils advocate.

You also didn't "PWN" the conspiracy theory, you "PWNED" my lack of understanding on that single point regarding the laser/telescope. That was the only ownage going on in that thread, and I'll admit to that. The rest of the responses to me were completely useless.

Besides, the comment you responded to in this thread had nothing to do with whether or not you believe the conspiracy is true, it was only regarding the complete asshattery that posters around here show.

Anyway, I didn't want a response from you, you never spoke rudely to anyone, that I saw. I wanted an asshat to respond.
 

MrPickins

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

I'm not sure either way, personally.

EDIT: Also, in after a bunch of pricks.


Your smoking some prety good stuff to believe any of this bull.
I would love to introduce you to Buzz Aldrin, he would set you straith.

You asked for it!

:thumbsup:^1000
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: manowar821
Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

I'm not sure either way, personally.

EDIT: Also, in after a bunch of pricks.


Your smoking some prety good stuff to believe any of this bull.
I would love to introduce you to Buzz Aldrin, he would set you straith.

You asked for it!

Read the rest of my responses before talking to me like an illiterate ass. You're pretty cocky for attacking the wrong person.

I'd also like to ask a side question, since I'm on the subject. Do the rude and facetious responders here get a hard-on from acting like this, or is it simply an automated response trained into you from birth? Just wondering! ;)

No, we just find it difficult to believe that anyone takes the crackpots who think the moon landings were just a big hoax seriously.

Weren't you PWNED enough in my last thread about this topic back in June?

Allow me to refresh your memory...

Never said I believed it.

I said it was suspicious.

Call it devils advocate.

You also didn't "PWN" the conspiracy theory, you "PWNED" my lack of understanding on that single point regarding the laser/telescope. That was the only ownage going on in that thread, and I'll admit to that. The rest of the responses to me were completely useless.

Besides, the comment you responded to in this thread had nothing to do with whether or not you believe the conspiracy is true, it was only regarding the complete asshattery that posters around here show.

Anyway, I didn't want a response from you, you never spoke rudely to anyone, that I saw. I wanted an asshat to respond.

Manowar's reply makes sense - he isn't saying it's true, but explaining why people think it's not true. That's what I was curious about.
 

Scarpozzi

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: manowar821
There are scientists working for NASA who have said we "don't have the technology currently to go to the moon". In this century. This has been said as an excuse as to why we haven't been back, or why we haven't sent manned missions to other planets. That, and financial reasons, obviously.

Of course we don't have the technology to go to the moon right now. We stopped working on that technology back in the 70s when the Apollo program ceased. The entire focus of NASA has been on the Space Shuttle, the Space Station, satellites, and probes. They haven't been actively working toward manned missions outside of Earth orbit in decades.
Exactly. The ability to make a mission to the moon ended with teh Apollo program. The space shuttle is designed as an orbiter only. Our current solid-fuel boosters don't have enough fuel to carry the shuttle and its payload up into space and continue on to the moon. The Saturn V rockets were basically just a huge fuel cell and 5, F1 engines. Then there were 6, J2 engines to propel the Service Module, Command Module, and Lunar Module to the moon and back.

They may try to design another rocket to do that, but I doubt it will be anytime soon. It's not getting any cheaper to design a delivery system that can accomplish that kind of trip.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: manowar821
Goatmonkey is right, part of it is believed to be because the USA had to one up the USSR.

On top of all the reasons TO fake the moon landing, the reason WHY it is believed to have been faked is because of the radiation belt, which is impassable with our modern spacecraft, much less paper thin foil capsules used during the space race.

There was one mission, where in the crew flew out to nearly the beginning of the belt. The then present radiation allowed them to see through their eyelids, through the craft's hull, and on into space. The X-rays were that strong, not even INSIDE the belt.

That sounds like something out of a science fiction story^H^H^H^H^H cartoon. Our eyes see light. X-rays are not in the visible spectrum.

"Light" is usually used pretty generally, no? I've seen it refer to any wavelength in the spectrum, not just visible light.

I know, that's why in the very next sentence I specified the visible spectrum, because I figured someone would come back and say that X-rays are light. I just didn't go back and clarify in the previous sentence. I thought my point was pretty clear - x-rays aren't in the visible spectrum.
 

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Actually, perhaps the best evidence that the lunar landings weren't faked is from Russia. If there were even a shred of evidence that the lunar landings were faked, Russia would have been all over it.

In the space race, the U.S. was getting it's butt kicked. Russia was wayyyyyy ahead of us. Then, suddenly, there we were standing on the moon. It was like the tortoise and the hare race. We were the tortoise. USSR would have liked nothing better than to deny that we won. They didn't. No one over there accuses the US of fabricating the entire thing in a hollywood studio. Why? Well, in the 1960's, their scientists were smart. And, apparently they're still smarter than the stupid Americans who believe otherwise.