Pliablemoose
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- Oct 11, 1999
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That's because they feel like their candidate may win.
I really wouldn't count on it, I think we're all about to witness some of the dirtiest campaigning ever done in presidential politics from both sides.
It's going to be a bumpy landing, and both sides have their lawyers primed, there are several issues that will hit the courts, that have already cropped up, and there are several more to come.
Hold onto your thongs ladies & gentlemen, there's some turbulence ahead.
Also on a personal note, I've always been supportive of younger posters in OT, I'm begining to change that opinion as a result of some postings in P&N, I feel that anyone younger than 17 ought not be posting in P&N.
I kind of agree. There are a lot of super crazy 'lefties' here. Sometimes they make me want to be a little more 'right' than 'left'. :Q
Bowfinger
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- Nov 17, 2002
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The irony of that statement is Bush is as un-Biblical as you can get. While he self-righteously professes his faith, his actions are consistently un-Christian. Love, compassion, charity, forgiveness; these are all alien concepts to Bush. He is not the champion of the masses. He is on the side of the moneychangers, the powerful, the authoritarians who attacked Christ because he threatened the status quo.
Bush is Biblical all right, but he was among the Pharisees.
PingSpike
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- Feb 25, 2004
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Its predominately left here. No doubt about it. But I think the fence sitters are often lumped in with the left pretty quickly by the right. I try to unbias....but after supporting a position from some righty guy because I agreed with it...then having them call me a 'commie liberal hippy' in another thread when I respectfully disagree with them doesn't exactly bode well with me. Its gotten so several people I just don't read any of their posts any more...and others even if I agree with their position I just don't post on their threads because they sound like nutwads.
The left side has its resident nuts here as well though.
I just have to repeat what I said before, this a definite anti-Bush slant up here but that does NOT mean there's a leftist slant.
CubicZirconia
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I think that if more posters actually took a moment to clarify their views in their own mind they'd find that they're more libertarian than anything else. This of course doesn't apply to everyone, but I suspect that a great deal of the Kerry supporters (especially the younger ones) are only supporting him because it's "cool" to hate Bush. I'm not saying I like Dubya (I don't), but I know that they are a lot of people out there that will be voting for Kerry without really knowing why.
Again, don't think this post is meant to support the conservatives (particularly the extremists on this board), because it's not. The real point is to get everyone to take
The World's Smallest Political Quiz.
Indeed, there's a vacuum.
Seriously, I'll be discussing along and half the time it degrades because somebody who disagrees with me does so with snipes rather than discussion and analysis supporting their conclusions. I like to think that I bring some good ideas and insight to the community, and I am more than open to a rational discourse with those who hold views differeing from my own. Hell, that's my biggest reason for being here is the growth that occurs through reexamining what you know and think as held up against the knowledge and thoughts of others. The sniping contributes very little to this end. Sure, mockery can be an effective rhetorical tool, and there isn't a bright line boundary, but we all know there are some here who just don't add anything.
Bowfinger
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Hint: your comment was not an "intelligent right comment". When you make comments like that, don't blame the left for a lack of good discussion. Look in the mirror instead.
There are still a handful of people on the right who post thoughtful, informed comments. Unfortunately, they are drowned out by their more vocal, less thoughtful kinsmen. Ironically, their attacks and diversions obscure the very people who are best able to support their views.
The right is authoritarian and attracts a lot of bullies. The thing about bullies, though, is that the one thing they aren't prepared for is being bullied back. Unless you stand your ground to these types they will insist that it's they who won the battle. They often tire of playing when their tactic doesn't work.
Pliablemoose
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Not me.
I know I have, and I think almost all of the posts in the thread are obvious reasons why.
I'm someone who never carried a deep political view until this election. I've been reading posts in P&N for a long time. I have done everything I can to get a balance of both sides, and this forum just doesn't cut it anymore.
Maybe its just me, but it seems that the bulk of what exists here belongs in scripts on Jon Stewart's desk every morning.
Pliablemoose
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To really understand how painful it is, copy one of conjur or dmcowen's posts & paste it in the freerepublic forums & try to keep your sanity.attempting to defend your position...
sandorski
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Couldn't find a single "Liberal" on that board, it seems to be a hangout for "Conservatives", though I may have missed them. Like I said earlier, Post something of Substance and you'll receive respect, at least from the Moderates. There will always be some on each side who Troll, but here the Right seems to be mainly Trolls or Whiners(formerly temp banned Trolls). That's not to say that those same types don't exist on the Let here, they just don't go as far and often post things of Substance as well.
To answer the OP: I generally get lumped into the "right wing" camp, despite the fact that many of my political views will not make it into the Republican platform within the next couple of decades, if ever. Such as my views on the "war on drugs", gay marriage, etc. The closest party to my views (by quite a large margin) is the L.P. But obviously, Badnarik isnt going to be POTUS this time next year. I still plan to vote for him, though. Having gone over the above for background info, I have gotten very tired of, after posting something that doesnt 100% agree with Kerry's position (of the day 
), being labelled a neo-con because my position may agree with Bush's, or be closer to Bush's than Kerry's. Due to this, I often dont post as much any more. However, this trend in my posting habits started long before the debates. I will still jump into any gun control debate I see, but I often decline to post in other topics just because I dont want to get in the middle of a far-right vs far-left debate. Also, we have a couple members here that are paralleling McCarthy, in that they see Neo-Cons lurking behind every tree and bush (not an intentional pun).
At this point, about the best possible outcome I can hope for is a Democrat President and a strongly Republican controlled Congress, or vice versa. I say that because I think both parties, if allowed to advance their respective agendas, would harm America. The only probable outcome that would prevent this is deadlock between the executive and legislative branches of the federal government. Given the current lack of bi-partisan cooperation that exists at the moment, if neither party controls both the Presidency and Congress, very little will be actually accomplished. And really, even when one party controls both branches, very little is actually accomplished, even if quite a bit of legislation is signed into law and quite a bit of cash is spent. I'm grateful we do not get all the government we pay for.
), being labelled a neo-con because my position may agree with Bush's, or be closer to Bush's than Kerry's. Due to this, I often dont post as much any more. However, this trend in my posting habits started long before the debates. I will still jump into any gun control debate I see, but I often decline to post in other topics just because I dont want to get in the middle of a far-right vs far-left debate. Also, we have a couple members here that are paralleling McCarthy, in that they see Neo-Cons lurking behind every tree and bush (not an intentional pun).At this point, about the best possible outcome I can hope for is a Democrat President and a strongly Republican controlled Congress, or vice versa. I say that because I think both parties, if allowed to advance their respective agendas, would harm America. The only probable outcome that would prevent this is deadlock between the executive and legislative branches of the federal government. Given the current lack of bi-partisan cooperation that exists at the moment, if neither party controls both the Presidency and Congress, very little will be actually accomplished. And really, even when one party controls both branches, very little is actually accomplished, even if quite a bit of legislation is signed into law and quite a bit of cash is spent. I'm grateful we do not get all the government we pay for.
Insufficient data, insufficient data, I need more data, this post does not compute, what is the implication of this post, explain this post, over-broad analogy, does not compute compute compute compute
OKOriginally posted by: LunarRay
Just say " But... I'm still here"..
But I'm still here
AND GORE WON
EXman
Lifer
- Jul 12, 2001
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Ok look up to the crybabies who said that Gore Won last time? Who's not making the smart comments LoL
Would you want that fat, bearded, angry freak to be prez during these times. Hint take a look at the brainiac post I was quoting stop being so serious and take a breath and have a :beer: wait till the election, vote and sit down. Then groan for 4 more years
Man oh man, LOL, this place was over run with Bush lovers just before the Iraq war started and just after it got going.....................................what do they have to say now. do they still believe we are turning Iraq in to a democracy..............
I remember when Bush Jr. was god like here at one time............a few people are still that foolish I am sure
I remember when Bush Jr. was god like here at one time............a few people are still that foolish I am sure
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