Monster Noctua HSF Prototypes - Coming Soon!

[The Boston Dangler]

agree w/ top comment, noctua is fing legit. still loving my u12p

if only i could color-match their fans.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

if only i could color-match their fans.

paint it

 

[exar333]

Motherboards mounted correctly won't be damaged by large HSF. Liquid-cooling is a hobby requires a lot of work and upkeep. Something air cooling doesn't need.

Agree 100%

Even these coolers will be around the price of JUST a new (good) CPU water-block. These 'monster' air coolers will better than most packaged WC setups, cool the rest of your rig better, and are of very high quality.

It's definitely a matter of choice, but I would rather spend $100 on a very high end air solution that I can run quiet or load, rather than spend more on a cheap WC solution that is not as adaptable. The third option is to spend on a custom WC solution, which would get you a better OC, but be a lot more $$$ and up-keep.

 

[SZLiao214]

Why are they making larger coolers? Don't cpu put out less heat now?

My q6600 at 3.6ghz ran a lot hotter then my 2500k at 4.6ghz.

 

[alfa147x]

Why are they making larger coolers? Don't cpu put out less heat now?

My q6600 at 3.6ghz ran a lot hotter then my 2500k at 4.6ghz.

Since when is that a bad thing

 

[Googer]

of course they don't work as well as "real water" but they're cheaper and they do work as well as these ridiculous tower coolers and at a fraction of the headache when it comes to installing and building your overall rig

you're paying for convenience

The Noctua, is a 1 piece unit. Cheaper and performs the same as the H100. It's less complex with few moving parts and should the pump fail your system overheats. But if a fan dies, the ball keeps on rolling. When it comes to reliability, air cooling and noctua are king.*

Water cooling doesn't eliminate noise, in my opinion it creates more: you still need fans (whirrr), and adding a pump (whirrrr) adds to the effect. Even though it's a sealed system, over time as it ages there is the possibility for evaporation (bubbles) and component failure. Plus finding a spot for the radiator isn't always going to be easy. One of the few cases that you can easily mount an H100 in, conviently is the Corsair Obsidian Series 800D CC800DW and costs around $250. But it sure is a nice chasis (i've seen it in person). H20 cooling isn't always what it may appear to be and sealed systems may not be such a bargain after all.



* or thermaltake, prolimatech, coolermaster.

 

[aigomorla]

Liquid-cooling is a hobby requires a lot of work and upkeep. Something air cooling doesn't need.

define upkeep.

using the right parts with the right setup leaves "maintenance" very small and very quick.

Drain line allows quick draining... setting up right loop order and parts allow fast bleeding. What more do you need minus bleeding?
QDC's can double as draining lines and allow parts swaping quick and painless. Well mounting the gpu block is painful, but there is no better cooling solution right now then a full cover gpu block.

Silver helps keep anti microbes in check, and im running 6 months on the same coolant without discoloration.

So what upkeep are you talking about? I dont think i could ever go back on air unless i was running a stock, Low Voltage system or a itx system.
My main rig will always be LC'd from board -> cpu -> gpu.

Even these coolers will be around the price of JUST a new (good) CPU water-block. These 'monster' air coolers will better than most packaged WC setups, cool the rest of your rig better, and are of very high quality.

excuse me are we talking about a presealed product? or a real LC'd product?

Wanna see how badly my 6year old EK Supreme would slaughter this air cooler? Yes it will cost more in setup, but no.. an air sink couldnt touch a waterblock which dates 6yrs old even today.

Theres something called water being able to hold 10x the capacity air can, and also the way the non presealed blocks were designed vs the presealed ones which arent even close to the design complexity today's high performance blocks are.

How is this system to keep the rest of the rig better then a fully blown out LC'd system?

This is an example of a full blown LC'd system... it has

Board under water:

My GPU's are under water:

and my CPU is under water.

So tell me.. how is this air sink better then my water setup.
Because my water setup litterally pulls 80% of the heat away from my system and takes it somewhere else VS. an air cooler which trys to blow air and make things cooler.

So guys... please when you make such bold statements, explain... because first off real watercooling setups out tier this product by far and you guys are trying to say its better?

Or did u mean its a better VALUE? because i agree air is a better VALUE, but so is a Camry, and not all of us drive Camrys.

Meaning watercooling can get expensive.. and i have yet to meet someone who hasnt OVERSHOT his budget getting his first system setup.
Why? because it is expensive, but at the same time, its VERY ADDICTIVE, because the gains are almost immediate. (especially GPU.)

 

[alfa147x]

define upkeep.

using the right parts with the right setup leaves "maintenance" very small and very quick.

Is that "maintenance" more than air? Plus cooling with liquid is risky. How ever good you are with a build you still run the risk of taking out your components with a leak.

 

[Googer]

With the current generation of air coolers, The only reason I can see anyone wanting to go water, is for a water cooled peltier (Thermo-electric) cooling. Which will produce temperatures well below ambient.

 

[alfa147x]

Either way liquid is more upkeep. I don't have to drain my noctua...

 

[Googer]

if only i could color-match their fans.

Paint in a pen dispenser, great for painting small objects.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=pai...,cf.osb&fp=2e82a24db335cbd0&biw=1920&bih=1071

 

[Macross]

The size of these coolers is getting ridiculous! I feel sorry for the mobo that has to support those monstrosities. Noctua makes awesome coolers, but I don't see people using enormous coolers, especially with the recent popularity of closed wc kits.

All of the closed WC kits I have tried from corsair h50 , h80 the latest one can not even come close to my nh-d14 setup in ease of use or temps. The sound h80 I tried almost sound like my old delta setup at full OC load not only that both systems had air in the loop and there fore they could not even perform to there max potential from the factory. For ease of use and performance per dollar noctua in my book can not be beat so far.

 

[BoomerD]

Paint in a pen dispenser, great for painting small objects.

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Too much work for fans...I agree that the Noctua fans are butt-ugly...but they work very well and I don't spend much time looking inside my case.

 

[radium69]

Release them already damnit. I need need more copper and aluminum. It's good for my e-peen.
They are sexy as hell though!

 

[Masahiro]

I think air setups are great, but they'll always be louder than a water setup. My setup does have a lot of fans (fractal designs) but it's still more silent than any other computer i've ever encountered. If you want a quick and relatively cheap solution to get decent temperatures and oc on your rig, air cooling is the way to go, hands down.

If you want a QUIET, cooler, and more OC friendly rig, you take liquid cooling. You'll pay more for sure, but like aigomorla said (I love your comparison btw), it's like buying a car.
You can pay 15k for a honda civic and yeah you'll get where you want to go. But if you want to get there as fast as possible you'll go for a porsche or ferrari, yeah it's more expensive and yeah it may need more maintenance, but that's half the fun of owning it, you have something that you feel more attached to because of the investment and time you choose to put into it.

 

[Googer]

Too much work for fans...I agree that the Noctua fans are butt-ugly...but they work very well and I don't spend much time looking inside my case.

I actually like the Noctua fans over the normal black fans. And if someone ever decided to do a desert camo army theme, the noctua fan would be right at home.

 

[Googer]

I think air setups are great, but they'll always be louder than a water setup. My setup does have a lot of fans (fractal designs) but it's still more silent than any other computer i've ever encountered. If you want a quick and relatively cheap solution to get decent temperatures and oc on your rig, air cooling is the way to go, hands down.

If you want a QUIET, cooler, and more OC friendly rig, you take liquid cooling. You'll pay more for sure, but like aigomorla said (I love your comparison btw), it's like buying a car.
You can pay 15k for a honda civic and yeah you'll get where you want to go. But if you want to get there as fast as possible you'll go for a porsche or ferrari, yeah it's more expensive and yeah it may need more maintenance, but that's half the fun of owning it, you have something that you feel more attached to because of the investment and time you choose to put into it.

All of the closed WC kits I have tried from corsair h50 , h80 the latest one can not even come close to my nh-d14 setup in ease of use or temps. The sound h80 I tried almost sound like my old delta setup at full OC load not only that both systems had air in the loop and there fore they could not even perform to there max potential from the factory. For ease of use and performance per dollar noctua in my book can not be beat so far.

My noctua with the case lids off, from 2 feet away sounds as if the fan is unplugged. Performance is excellent, even with the case fans disabled and panels removed.

 

[lsv]

agree w/ top comment, noctua is fing legit. still loving my u12p

edit: lol, our rigs are almost identical except for video card

Except for vid card

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Motherboards mounted correctly won't be damaged by large HSF. Liquid-cooling is a hobby requires a lot of work and upkeep. Something air cooling doesn't need.

I'm using the Noctua NH-D14 in my latest machine. I can tell you . . . and I've known for some time -- except for the copper versions of certain coolers [ThermalRight's TRUE and a version of the Prolimatech Megahalem] -- the heatsink assemblies themselves at most weigh around ~900 grams. Finding ways to mount your fans and duct the airflow through the cooler without hanging the fans on the cooler will significantly reduce the weight and torque on the motherboard. But I rather doubt that these new coolers will shorten your system's longevity, or otherwise distort the motherboard.

Some of the beefier 120x38mm fans weight in excess of 250 grams. OR in the case of the Noctua D14 kit, 140x25mm fans with heavy motors probably add that much plus some.