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taltamir

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Wow, you were prepared on that one! Haha. It seems like all 24 inchers now are 1920x, which is pushing it for ease of readability. Is a 22 inch at 1680x more readable?

nothing stops you from running 1680x1050 on your 24 incher. It would be less sharp, but give you bigger text.
But actually to answer your question directly, no it isn't. text size at native (max, and actual pixel quantity) resolution is 23">24">22" math and specifics below:

22 inch diagonal @ 16:10 @1680x1050 has a horizontal of:
theta = arctan(10/16) = 32.005 degrees.
X = Hyp*cos(theta) = 22*cos(theta) = 17.3 inch
1680 pixels / 17.3 inch = 97.1 pixel/inch

24 inch diagonal @ 16:10 @ 1920x1200 has horizontal of:
X = Hyp*cos(theta) = 24*cos(theta) = 20.4 inch
1920 pixels / 20.4 inch = 94.1 pixels/inch

This means that the 22" @ 1680x1050 will have smaller looking text than the 24" @ 1920x1200
(more pixels / inch means smaller text and pictures)

text size for 16:10 monitors:
27"@1680x1050 > 24"@1680x1050 > 27"@1920x1200 > 23"@1680x1050 > 24"@1920x1200 > 22"@1680x1050
 
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busydude

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nothing stops you from running ..snip..

I love it when you make these kind of posts.. :thumbsup: you and toyota convinced me to get a 24" screen instead of a 22" a few months back and I thank you for that.
 

tweakboy

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Wow, you were prepared on that one! Haha. It seems like all 24 inchers now are 1920x, which is pushing it for ease of readability. Is a 22 inch at 1680x more readable?

It will be significantly smaller text, to combat that you can to go davanced display settings and change the font to SERGUI semi Bold or also take its 9 size to 10. I did this and never looking back fonts are soo thick and juicy and crisp.


As far as monitors for his mom, The 24" 1920x1200 are soo affordable might as well go with that one and keep the resolution @ 1920 and just do the font thing also make sure clear type font is on. gl
 

Arkaign

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Yeah 24" is hugely better than 22", particularly if you get one with 1200 vertical pixels :)

Not all screens scale as effectively to non-native resolutions, for whatever reason. Some still look pretty sharp with non-native same-aspect resolutions, some just look really off.
 

tcsenter

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An older woman I know (68 or 69) runs her Dell 24" at the resolution of a typical 19" (can't remember which) while maintaining the correct aspect ratio and it looks fine. Its not as sharp but by no means is it "blurry" and its far more readable/comfortable to sit at for her.
 

toyota

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An older woman I know (68 or 69) runs her Dell 24" at the resolution of a typical 19" (can't remember which) while maintaining the correct aspect ratio and it looks fine. Its not as sharp but by no means is it "blurry" and its far more readable/comfortable to sit at for her.
"by no means is it blurry" ...well it is most certainly blurry compared to the native res.
 

tcsenter

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My definition of "blurry" is not sitting down in front of a 1080p HDTV and saying "this 720p content is blurry"!
 

toyota

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My definition of "blurry" is not sitting down in front of a 1080p HDTV and saying "this 720p content is blurry"!
lets talk FACTS. running a lower than native res especially for desktop is less crisp, less distinct and slightly more hazy than native. that by definition IS blurry. heck you even said it was less sharp. so again you can call it whatever in the heck you want to but it IS blurry compared to native.
 
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tweakboy

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An older woman I know (68 or 69) runs her Dell 24" at the resolution of a typical 19" (can't remember which) while maintaining the correct aspect ratio and it looks fine. Its not as sharp but by no means is it "blurry" and its far more readable/comfortable to sit at for her.

The woman is using a a wide screen resolution. 1280x768 maybe so it doesnt stretch the pic. Im just saying... gl
 
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tcsenter

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OK, that settles it. 720p has a lower resolution than 1080p and by Toyota's definition is therefore "blurry" . :rolleyes:
 

toyota

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OK, that settles it. 720p has a lower resolution than 1080p and by Toyota's definition is therefore "blurry" . :rolleyes:
read the freaking definition of blurry. it means less distinct or sharp and that is EXACTY what the hell you get when you lower the resolution below native. blurry doesn't mean anything absolute and all I am saying is that running a res below native is blurry compared to native. that is a fact. your comment is about as ignorant as saying a given cpu is a limitation but not a bottleneck. lol
 

tcsenter

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read the freaking definition of blurry. it means less distinct or sharp and that is EXACTY what the hell you get when you lower the resolution below native. blurry doesn't mean anything absolute and all I am saying is that running a res below native is blurry compared to native. that is a fact. your comment is about as ignorant as saying a given cpu is a limitation but not a bottleneck. lol
Got it. Core i5 CPU running at 3.2GHz is "slow" while running at 3.47GHz is "fast".
 

toyota

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Got it. Core i5 CPU running at 3.2GHz is "slow" while running at 3.47GHz is "fast".
keep being foolish I guess. if you have common sense then you know bottleneck and limitation are interchangeable just like blurry and less sharp. you keep acting like blurry means something extreme instead of getting through your head that running below native res is indeed blurry compared to native.
 
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toyota

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To be fair toyota, you did say this


Which does sound on the extreme side.
well that was in reply to running 720 on a 1080 monitor which does look like blurry crap compared to its native 1080. yes that may be a little extreme.

my comment to tcsenter was because he said an older women was running a 19inch res on her 24inch. he said it was less sharp but not blurry which makes no sense. if its at a lower res then it is technically blurry compared to running native res on an LCD.
 
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Squidmaster

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Yikes! Can't we just say there is some subjectivity involved? :)

I am seriously considering the ViewSonic VX2450wm. Reviews seem favorable and the price is certainly right. Does this seem like a good call to all of you for general use and World of Warcraft gaming?
 

toyota

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I can run 1680x1050 on my 1920x1200 26" LCD, and it doesn't look "blurry",
sigh. this isn't about whether you "think" it looks blurry or not. if you are running below native res on an LCD then IT IS BLURRY COMPARED to native res. your comment is about as ridiculous as saying when I tow a trailer my truck is not slow. it is slower then when not towing a trailer.

heck I even remember when I had an HP monitor years ago, it even said that running a lower than native res will produce a blurry image COMPARED to native.
 
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DaveSimmons

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Blurry only with the nit-picking qualifier "compared to native," not blurry in the normal sense of the word. So the comparison of fast and faster CPUs is apt, and apparently my 3 GHz E8400 Core 2 CPU is "blurry crap" too :( .

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/blurry

Definition of BLURRY: : lacking definition or focus

Synonyms: blear, bleary, faint, dim, foggy, fuzzy, gauzy, hazy, indefinite, indistinct, indistinguishable, misty, murky, nebulous, obscure, opaque, pale, shadowy, unclear, undefined, undetermined, vague
 

toyota

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Blurry only with the nit-picking qualifier "compared to native," not blurry in the normal sense of the word. So the comparison of fast and faster CPUs is apt, and apparently my 3 GHz E8400 Core 2 CPU is "blurry crap" too :( .

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/blurry

Definition of BLURRY: : lacking definition or focus

Synonyms: blear, bleary, faint, dim, foggy, fuzzy, gauzy, hazy, indefinite, indistinct, indistinguishable, misty, murky, nebulous, obscure, opaque, pale, shadowy, unclear, undefined, undetermined, vague
well I said compared to native and then tcsenter still argued about it. I said blurry crap earlier in the thread in reply to a different comment so dont take things out of context...