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Money masters, teach me how to "never have to work again!"

JMorton6

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I'm in my 20's and have been fortunate enough to have started several small companies that are doing pretty well (or just ok depending on your standards) - I currently make 6 figures working 15-25 hours a week and could pull in at least 250k in the next 12 months and more thereafter if I really started applying myself and working full time. Problem is, I'm lazy by nature, and although I can work tirelessly (days, nights, weekends, whatever it takes) when problems arise, I generally do only as much work as is necessary to pay for my lifestyle, so that's precisely what I make and not a penny more.

My guess is that any success I've had to date is only due to my expensive taste - to me, it is necessary (as necessary as it is to have food and water) to have an expensive car, live in a rich neighborhood, etc, so I forced myself to build up sufficient income to pay for these things. In my mind, I "need" these things - if I didn't need em, I'd work less; if I needed more, I'd work more, simple as that. So all in all, things are ok and I really can't complain too much: I can afford anything I want (except crazy shit like a Bugatti, private jet or a $10 million house), don't have to work too much, can go on vacation whenever I want, etc.

The problem is, as you may have guessed, that I live paycheck to paycheck and have zero financial security: if I stop working for 6 months, I'll be homeless! I hate this feeling - I have all this nice stuff and everyone thinks I'm loaded, but I feel poor because I have no savings and trapped because I can't quit working. This has been going on for years and I just realized that if I don't put an end to it now, I'll still be sitting here 20 years from now and bitching about how I'm still "poor" and still trapped!

So what I need from you guys is a GOAL. Tell me what to do so that I don't ever have to work again, tell me how to get that PASSIVE INCOME! What do I need to do? Save up a million bucks and live off the interest? I could do that within a few years, but how much interest can you make off a million bucks - 60k? I'd starve! I need at least 120-150k/yr in passive income for starters, so that I can quit my job and focus on growing my net worth and generating even more passive income. But how do I start, what should be my GOAL? How do I make that first 100k/yr in passive income? Please help me, I feel really down and trapped and I hate this feeling and want to escape from it and be free to never have to work again! Thanks in advance! 🙂
 
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I got just one word for ya kid...okay two words...I got just two words for ya kid...are ya ready? Paragraphs breaks. Paragraph breaks are the future.
 
First lesson: learn how to live well below your means.

See, to me that means "give up the things you love" and this is something I can't do, because then I might as well go be a bum. What I can live with though is "keep the things you love and increase your income so that one day you can have MORE of the things you love." Same concept, different wording, HUGE difference to me. But then the question is: once I save up money to invest, what the hell do I do with it so that I can live off the passive income and not have to work anymore?
 
You need to build your small businesses up to a size where a larger business wants to buy you out.
You need to cut into their business.

The purchase offer should be enough for you to retire on.
 
See, to me that means "give up the things you love" and this is something I can't do, because then I might as well go be a bum. What I can live with though is "keep the things you love and increase your income so that one day you can have MORE of the things you love." Same concept, different wording, HUGE difference to me. But then the question is: once I save up money to invest, what the hell do I do with it so that I can live off the passive income and not have to work anymore?

Wow. So in other words, if you don't spend as much as you make you're a "bum"?

I'm looking forward to a hopefully epic thread in the making.
 
Wow. So in other words, if you don't spend as much as you make you're a "bum"?

I'm looking forward to a hopefully epic thread in the making.

Haha no, what I meant is that if I just start "living below my means" without increasing my means first, I'll have to give up all the nice stuff I enjoy. So yea, I obviously need to increase my means and keep my spending where it is now, so that the difference can become savings. My question is though: what do I do with the money that I save in order to make it generate enough passive income for me to live on?
 
See, to me that means "give up the things you love" and this is something I can't do, because then I might as well go be a bum. What I can live with though is "keep the things you love and increase your income so that one day you can have MORE of the things you love." Same concept, different wording, HUGE difference to me. But then the question is: once I save up money to invest, what the hell do I do with it so that I can live off the passive income and not have to work anymore?

Skipping Lesson One and moving on to Lesson Two does not work. Sorry. It just doesn't.

Either buy/borrow books or google for info on "live well below/within your means" and you will discover the later lessons, but plan to fail (as opposed to fail to plan) because your income will never actually exceed your spending until you learn/live & breath lesson one.

Edit: on one ever said life was easy, unless they were lying
 
You need to build your small businesses up to a size where a larger business wants to buy you out.
You need to cut into their business.

The purchase offer should be enough for you to retire on.

I've thought about it and it's a possibility, but the issue is that my company is already one of the main players in our very small industry (the leader only does about 7-8 mil a year in revenue), so it's unlikely that our competitors would have enough money to buy us out. Also, it's a service business so that doesn't help as (I think?) companies usually buy product businesses. But yea, it's not out of the question, but for me it'd be far more realistic to plan to save up a million bucks than to plan to get bought out for a million bucks. Far more realistic.
 
See, to me that means "give up the things you love" and this is something I can't do, because then I might as well go be a bum. What I can live with though is "keep the things you love and increase your income so that one day you can have MORE of the things you love." Same concept, different wording, HUGE difference to me. But then the question is: once I save up money to invest, what the hell do I do with it so that I can live off the passive income and not have to work anymore?

You've already said that you live right to the edge of your income. Unless you can train yourself to spend less than you earn it doesn't matter how much more you make, you'll always spend every extra dollar you earn. If you can't figure out how to save money while making 250k a year you're functionally retarded.
 
Read "Rich Dad, Poor Dad", by Robert Kiyosaki and Sharon Lechter. It's a great introductory book that explains the concept. Heck, you only have to read the first half to get the main idea.
 
I was expecting to see an OP with a post count of '1'..

OP, can you please tell me what this says:
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Skipping Lesson One and moving on to Lesson Two does not work. Sorry. It just doesn't.

Either buy/borrow books or google for info on "live well below/within your means" and you will discover the later lessons, but plan to fail (as opposed to fail to plan) because your income will never actually exceed your spending until you learn/live & breath lesson one.

Edit: on one ever said life was easy, unless they were lying

Ok, you make a good point. So I start by deciding how much I'll allow myself to spend per month and refusing to spend more when my income increases, correct?
 
Read "Rich Dad, Poor Dad", by Robert Kiyosaki and Sharon Lechter. It's a great introductory book that explains the concept. Heck, you only have to read the first half to get the main idea.

Read that when I was still a teenager and just starting out. Great book. Don't remember much of it anymore though, but I do remember that he said that poor people work for money, while rich people make money work for them. I finally get the point now, but how do I make money work for me?
 
See, to me that means "give up the things you love" and this is something I can't do, because then I might as well go be a bum. What I can live with though is "keep the things you love and increase your income so that one day you can have MORE of the things you love." Same concept, different wording, HUGE difference to me. But then the question is: once I save up money to invest, what the hell do I do with it so that I can live off the passive income and not have to work anymore?

First failure of life: putting THINGS at the top and center of your happiness and contentment.
 
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