Mom, Dad in Court Over Son's Circumcision

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: hysperion

Originally posted by: 6000SUX
Unfortunately, one of the side effects of reduced sensation may be erectile dysfunction later in life. It's a well-known fact that older men need much more stimulation to get and stay aroused.

Possibly a valid point- thank god for viagra!

I love the American medical community - they get paid on the front and back end!!! Charge to cut the baby. Charge to fix the fvcked up circ. Charge to fix meatal stenosis. Later in life, money for Viagra and Cialis. No wonder they promote circ ... greedy assholes.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Hahahaha. Ignorance is always funny.

Let's name a few places that cut babies:

Iraq
Iran
Syria
Israel
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Turkey
Malaysia
United States

Let's name some places that don't cut babies:

The US us MY definition of modern civilization :laugh:

Like jews, all muslims are circumsised. The countries you listed are muslim nations.
That fact that they're out of place in the world, excluding israel, is completely irrelevant when refering to circumsision.

What does muslim nations have to do with nations being developed or not? Your argument, in itself, is wholly irrelevant to what they're talking about.
Logic > you.

The debate wasn't whether or not a country was developted/industrial. Someone said these nations still practice circumsision because they're "behind in the times":

Iraq
Iran
Syria
Israel
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Turkey
Malaysia

This is wrong. As I previously said, all muslims are circumsised. Its the culture. (Jews are circumsised as well)

Its just a coincidence that those same countries are also notorious for their civil rights/human rights. 😉

I'm looking at this Wikipedia article on circ rates worldwide. The only "modern" countries on the list that circ for non-religious reasons are the United States and South Korea... I challenge you to find any others. All the other modern countries never cut babies to begin with or have since abandoned the practice.

Circumcision is NOT common worldwide, despite what you may want to believe. Its also becoming less common in America... in 2003, 55% of newborn males were circ'd. Want to guess what the trend shows?

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Doboji

Originally posted by: 6000SUX

Originally posted by: RBachman
I say we start cutting off our childrens' left arms at birth. We can point to studies proving it reduces the instance of infection on the left hand (lolz) and work it into the FSM religion so that it needn't be questioned (It was decreed by Him after all). It's the only way.

LOL! Actually, it's even better-- we can point to a vague statement by a doctor saying that it may have some health benefits. Reduced stress on the heart, less chance of people being overweight (what's the left arm weigh, anyway?) etc. etc. etc.

Damnit here we go again...

If you were to ask a person who only had one arm if they felt they were as well off as a person with two arms... they would absolutely say they werent. I am circumcised... I don't feel that I am any worse off than a person who is circumcised... even more I am better off because being circumcised has cultural value for me.

Why don't we drop the stupid comparisons alltogether... I don't have to ask my childs permission to do what I feel is best for him... That whole concept is ridiculous... when he's an adult he can make his own decisions... when he's a child... I make the decisions.

Period.

-Max

Of course you don't, but I hardly think dick-chopping is in anyone's best interest, except for maybe the mohel or "doctor" after the $$$$.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Noobtastic

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Hahahaha. Ignorance is always funny.

Let's name a few places that cut babies:

Iraq
Iran
Syria
Israel
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Turkey
Malaysia
United States

Let's name some places that don't cut babies:

The US us MY definition of modern civilization :laugh:

Like jews, all muslims are circumsised. The countries you listed are muslim nations.
That fact that they're out of place in the world, excluding israel, is completely irrelevant when refering to circumsision.

What does muslim nations have to do with nations being developed or not? Your argument, in itself, is wholly irrelevant to what they're talking about.
Logic > you.

The debate wasn't whether or not a country was developted/industrial. Someone said these nations still practice circumsision because they're "behind in the times":

Iraq
Iran
Syria
Israel
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Turkey
Malaysia

This is wrong. As I previously said, all muslims are circumsised. Its the culture. (Jews are circumsised as well)

Its just a coincidence that those same countries are also notorious for their civil rights/human rights. 😉

Religion aside, it follows logic that less developed nations would favor circumcision, as access to soap and running water is less common in them.

 

[phpdog]

Me = Uncut

The tip of an uncircumcised penis is more responsive to sexual stimulus , and circumcised
men could proberly have a larger erection if they were uncut . Thats my opinion , because because at the point of full erection [ uncut penis ] the skin is really tight so if that skin isnt there its either going to get smaller erection or very painful . :Q

Things are there for a reason , as long as you practice good hygiene , there should be no problem.

The only reason its still done on a large scale in the US is because of $$$ .

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

But hell, if I could have my foreskin back, I'd do it if the thing were going to look like Cthulhu.

And it'd give you a pickup line for any fine "goth chicks" you may encounter.
"The bringer of the apocalypse lives in my pants. Want a peek?"

Originally posted by: GeekDrew
I'm supposed to be the i love you here and I don't talk nearly as much about cocks as you guys do.

ywp

😀
Some people here probably carry pictures of theirs in their wallet.

Originally posted by: Qujo
So circumsized people are handicapped now? hahah. When do I get to park in the handicapped spaces?

HandiUNcapped, technically.

Originally posted by: Doboji
But religion is a set of beliefs, I believe in my religion... and my religion teaches me that circumcising my male children is part of my covenant with god... It's also a cultural tradition that unites us as a people...

I just find that sick and amusing. A deity who wants you to snip off some nerve-laden skin.😕:Q😕 See, if a human wanted such a thing of his children, or an employer required it of employees....lesse, maybe just chop off your earlobes, or maybe cut off the tip of your nose, that'd probably get the legal system involved for some kind of cruelty. Then the person responsible for wanting these "modifications" would be subject to psychiatric evaluation and therapy. But God does it, and bam, it's sacred.

When you get to Heaven, is your foreskin there waiting for you?

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf
A circumicised penis looks better cosmetically and is slightly easier to "maintain", that's the main reasons I'm not against it. Although it should be up to your kid.

A shaved head would be easier to maintain too. Why not do that to everyone? And it'd reduce the likelihood of lice, which is a concern in schools.

Originally posted by: EatSpam
I love the American medical community - they get paid on the front and back end!!! Charge to cut the baby. Charge to fix the fvcked up circ. Charge to fix meatal stenosis. Later in life, money for Viagra and Cialis. No wonder they promote circ ... greedy assholes.

Sounds like a demotivational poster from Despair.com, on Consulting: Because there's a lot of money to be made in prolonging the problem.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
I'm looking at this Wikipedia article on circ rates worldwide. The only "modern" countries on the list that circ for non-religious reasons are the United States and South Korea... I challenge you to find any others. All the other modern countries never cut babies to begin with or have since abandoned the practice.

Circumcision is NOT common worldwide, despite what you may want to believe. Its also becoming less common in America... in 2003, 55% of newborn males were circ'd. Want to guess what the trend shows?

Yup, only REAL reason now for circumcision, as doboji shows, is to follow tradition. It's really a primitive behavior. It has nothing to do with logic. Anyone with an ounce of logic would know that there is no real purpose to having the baby circumcised. These people that would have their son circumcised are usually the sheep that follow what authority tells them what they should do, rather than analyzing it for themselves, and doing what's reasonable. These are probably the same kind of people that perform female circumcision by removing all of a girl's external genitals, simply because it's "traditional", and it upholds "family/religious values."
History has shown that generally anyone acting out with those two sole reasons generally are fvcked up. These are the people who blow up buildings in the name of god, massacre millions in their crusades.
As Blaise Pascal once said, "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."

 

[maydaytx]

I have two penises, one circumcised and one not. The one on the southeast side has more feeling, but when I use them at the same time it multiplies the feeling exponentially.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Taggart
circumcision FTL

Fixed for you.

the idea of an uncircumsized dude is gross :disgust:

it's the natural state, it's fine

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf
A circumicised penis looks better cosmetically and is slightly easier to "maintain", that's the main reasons I'm not against it. Although it should be up to your kid.

A shaved head would be easier to maintain too. Why not do that to everyone? And it'd reduce the likelihood of lice, which is a concern in schools.

Why do people keep making the comparison of circumicision to cutting your hair, that's just plain stupid, and it shouldn't have to be explained, but I realize thinking isn't the strong point of most people.

Once your circumcised, that's it, it's a done deal. If you shave your head, it will grow back, and you use shampoo. If you keep your head shaved, again, you use shampoo, or soap. Hair also helps protect your scalp from UV rays that could penetrate the skin and melt your brain. 🙂

Lice is easy to prevent if you just keep your fvcking head clean.

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf
A circumicised penis looks better cosmetically and is slightly easier to "maintain", that's the main reasons I'm not against it. Although it should be up to your kid.

A shaved head would be easier to maintain too. Why not do that to everyone? And it'd reduce the likelihood of lice, which is a concern in schools.

Why do people keep making the comparison of circumicision to cutting your hair, that's just plain stupid, and it shouldn't have to be explained, but I realize thinking isn't the strong point of most people.

Once your circumcised, that's it, it's a done deal. If you shave your head, it will grow back, and you use shampoo. If you keep your head shaved, again, you use shampoo, or soap. Hair also helps protect your scalp from UV rays that could penetrate the skin and melt your brain. 🙂

Lice is easy to prevent if you just keep your fvcking head clean.

Funny how your hair argument works perfectly for foreskin too.
Foreskin helps protect your glans from rubbing against rough objects.
Penile problems are easy to prevent if you just keep the head of your fvcking penis clean.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: maydaytx
I have two penises, one circumcised and one not. The one on the southeast side has more feeling, but when I use them at the same time it multiplies the feeling exponentially.

So, there really IS such a thing as a DICK HEAD after all. 😉

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Taggart
circumcision FTL

Fixed for you.

the idea of an uncircumsized dude is gross :disgust:

it's the natural state, it's fine

It does look gross. Just because something is natural doesn't mean we should let it be. Of course that depends on the subject at hand and in this case a circumcised penis looks better and if anyone disagrees they should hang themselves. :disgust:

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf
A circumicised penis looks better cosmetically and is slightly easier to "maintain", that's the main reasons I'm not against it. Although it should be up to your kid.

A shaved head would be easier to maintain too. Why not do that to everyone? And it'd reduce the likelihood of lice, which is a concern in schools.

Why do people keep making the comparison of circumicision to cutting your hair, that's just plain stupid, and it shouldn't have to be explained, but I realize thinking isn't the strong point of most people.

Once your circumcised, that's it, it's a done deal. If you shave your head, it will grow back, and you use shampoo. If you keep your head shaved, again, you use shampoo, or soap. Hair also helps protect your scalp from UV rays that could penetrate the skin and melt your brain. 🙂

Lice is easy to prevent if you just keep your fvcking head clean.

Funny how your hair argument works perfectly for foreskin too.
Foreskin helps protect your glans from rubbing against rough objects.
Penile problems are easy to prevent if you just keep the head of your fvcking penis clean.

And what rough objects might that be? Most of us wear plenty of protective clothing, this isn't 600 B.C or whenever and we wear loin clothes.

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Taggart
circumcision FTL

Fixed for you.

the idea of an uncircumsized dude is gross :disgust:

it's the natural state, it's fine

It does look gross. Just because something is natural doesn't mean we should let it be. Of course that depends on the subject at hand and in this case a circumcised penis looks better and if anyone disagrees they should hang themselves. :disgust:

You must really like teh wang to have such strong feelings on its looks 😉

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: EatSpam
I'm looking at this Wikipedia article on circ rates worldwide. The only "modern" countries on the list that circ for non-religious reasons are the United States and South Korea... I challenge you to find any others. All the other modern countries never cut babies to begin with or have since abandoned the practice.

Circumcision is NOT common worldwide, despite what you may want to believe. Its also becoming less common in America... in 2003, 55% of newborn males were circ'd. Want to guess what the trend shows?

Yup, only REAL reason now for circumcision, as doboji shows, is to follow tradition. It's really a primitive behavior. It has nothing to do with logic. Anyone with an ounce of logic would know that there is no real purpose to having the baby circumcised. These people that would have their son circumcised are usually the sheep that follow what authority tells them what they should do, rather than analyzing it for themselves, and doing what's reasonable. These are probably the same kind of people that perform female circumcision by removing all of a girl's external genitals, simply because it's "traditional", and it upholds "family/religious values."
History has shown that generally anyone acting out with those two sole reasons generally are fvcked up. These are the people who blow up buildings in the name of god, massacre millions in their crusades.
As Blaise Pascal once said, "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."

Wow, that is a load of pompous ill-thought out crap. I bet you thought you were being clever when you wrote that drivel, but let me tell you that you weren't.

To equate people who circumcise their child with being mindless sheep of the same ilk that blow up buildings is fallacious at best, and blatantly imbecilic at worst. You readily dismiss the possibility that people analyzing things for themselves could lead to them making a choice in favor of circumcision. You assume that the only logical outcome must be a no-circumcision, but that is incorrect - people can logically choose to have a circumcision.

Again, it is rather audacious that you would even equate circumcision with suicide bombings. Get a grip on reality and get off of your pompous and ignorant soap box.

 

[6000SUX]

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Taggart
circumcision FTL

Fixed for you.

the idea of an uncircumsized dude is gross :disgust:

it's the natural state, it's fine

It does look gross. Just because something is natural doesn't mean we should let it be. Of course that depends on the subject at hand and in this case a circumcised penis looks better and if anyone disagrees they should hang themselves. :disgust:

It looks gross to you. That doesn't mean much. I disagree that a circumcised penis looks better, and so do plenty of other sane, rational people who aren't about to hang themselves.

 

[6000SUX]

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf
A circumicised penis looks better cosmetically and is slightly easier to "maintain", that's the main reasons I'm not against it. Although it should be up to your kid.

A shaved head would be easier to maintain too. Why not do that to everyone? And it'd reduce the likelihood of lice, which is a concern in schools.

Why do people keep making the comparison of circumicision to cutting your hair, that's just plain stupid, and it shouldn't have to be explained, but I realize thinking isn't the strong point of most people.

Once your circumcised, that's it, it's a done deal. If you shave your head, it will grow back, and you use shampoo. If you keep your head shaved, again, you use shampoo, or soap. Hair also helps protect your scalp from UV rays that could penetrate the skin and melt your brain. 🙂

Lice is easy to prevent if you just keep your fvcking head clean.

You're absolutely right. It is an irreversible mutilation.

 

[EyeMWing]

Teach the kid to wash his 'pecker? Sounds cheaper than all this litigation and surgury.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: virtualgames0

Originally posted by: EatSpam
I'm looking at this Wikipedia article on circ rates worldwide. The only "modern" countries on the list that circ for non-religious reasons are the United States and South Korea... I challenge you to find any others. All the other modern countries never cut babies to begin with or have since abandoned the practice.

Circumcision is NOT common worldwide, despite what you may want to believe. Its also becoming less common in America... in 2003, 55% of newborn males were circ'd. Want to guess what the trend shows?

Yup, only REAL reason now for circumcision, as doboji shows, is to follow tradition. It's really a primitive behavior. It has nothing to do with logic. Anyone with an ounce of logic would know that there is no real purpose to having the baby circumcised. These people that would have their son circumcised are usually the sheep that follow what authority tells them what they should do, rather than analyzing it for themselves, and doing what's reasonable. These are probably the same kind of people that perform female circumcision by removing all of a girl's external genitals, simply because it's "traditional", and it upholds "family/religious values."
History has shown that generally anyone acting out with those two sole reasons generally are fvcked up. These are the people who blow up buildings in the name of god, massacre millions in their crusades.
As Blaise Pascal once said, "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction."

Wow, that is a load of pompous ill-thought out crap. I bet you thought you were being clever when you wrote that drivel, but let me tell you that you weren't.

To equate people who circumcise their child with being mindless sheep of the same ilk that blow up buildings is fallacious at best, and blatantly imbecilic at worst. You readily dismiss the possibility that people analyzing things for themselves could lead to them making a choice in favor of circumcision. You assume that the only logical outcome must be a no-circumcision, but that is incorrect - people can logically choose to have a circumcision.

I agree. A more apt comparison would one between circumcisors and child molestors. Both like fondling baby dick, both like what they're doing, both victimize, although the circumcisor is worse because he actually cuts things off. Also, the circumcisor has succeeded in convincing some societies that he provides a useful service, something the child molestor hasn't succeeded at. The circumcisor even profits from his fetish. A circumcisor is definately worse than a child molestor.

Please explain logically how cutting off healthy tissue from a newborn is a good idea. Please remember that circumcision doesn't make a child free from ridicule nor does it take away his choice to be circumcised later.

You have a lot of issues with this circumcision thing. Its probably a need to protect your ego. You need to believe that your circumcised penis is perfect, therefore circumcision is good, hence your defense of this outdated and barbaric practice.

 

[Cattlegod]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Taggart
circumcision FTL

Fixed for you.

the idea of an uncircumsized dude is gross :disgust:

please join modern civilization

Hahahaha. Ignorance is always funny.

Let's name a few places that cut babies:

Iraq
Iran
Syria
Israel
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Turkey
Malaysia
United States

Let's name some places that don't cut babies:

Canada
Mexico
Britain
Germany
Japan
Poland
Sweden

Yeah, modern civilization, my ass. The United States and Israel are the only "modern" countries on that list.

where are your sources?

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: Cattlegod

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Taggart
circumcision FTL

Fixed for you.

the idea of an uncircumsized dude is gross :disgust:

please join modern civilization

Hahahaha. Ignorance is always funny.

Let's name a few places that cut babies:

Iraq
Iran
Syria
Israel
Pakistan
Saudi Arabia
Turkey
Malaysia
United States

Let's name some places that don't cut babies:

Canada
Mexico
Britain
Germany
Japan
Poland
Sweden

Yeah, modern civilization, my ass. The United States and Israel are the only "modern" countries on that list.

where are your sources?

Third time I'm linking this. 😉

Wikipedia article on circ rates worldwide

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: RBachman

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Taggart
circumcision FTL

Fixed for you.

the idea of an uncircumsized dude is gross :disgust:

it's the natural state, it's fine

It does look gross. Just because something is natural doesn't mean we should let it be. Of course that depends on the subject at hand and in this case a circumcised penis looks better and if anyone disagrees they should hang themselves. :disgust:

You must really like teh wang to have such strong feelings on its looks 😉

Yes, this is true, but only for my own wang. 😉

 

[Patrick Wolf]

Originally posted by: 6000SUX

Originally posted by: Patrick Wolf

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Taggart

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Taggart
circumcision FTL

Fixed for you.

the idea of an uncircumsized dude is gross :disgust:

it's the natural state, it's fine

It does look gross. Just because something is natural doesn't mean we should let it be. Of course that depends on the subject at hand and in this case a circumcised penis looks better and if anyone disagrees they should hang themselves. :disgust:

It looks gross to you. That doesn't mean much. I disagree that a circumcised penis looks better, and so do plenty of other sane, rational people who aren't about to hang themselves.

I wasn't serious about the hang themselves part. A little Lewis Black comedy there. And the bolded part is BS.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: Taggart
circumcision FTW