what the hell is a "soggy nacho?"
PM me if you have to. My floor is debating it as we speak.
PM me if you have to. My floor is debating it as we speak.
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I only found this:
The boisterous ceremonies of "crossing the line" are ancient and their derivation is lost. It is well known that ceremonies took place long ago when the ship crossed the equator, as well as other 'lines", such as the 180th parallel, the thirtieth parallel, and also when going through the Straits of Gibraltar. Early ceremonies were rough and to a great extent supposed to try the crew to determine whether or not the novices on their first cruise could endure the hardships of life at sea. The custom then, as at present, is primarily a crew's party.
The Vikings were reported at an early date to carry out these ceremonies on crossing certain parallels. It is highly probable that the present day ceremony was passed on to the Anglo-Saxtons, and Normans from the Vikings. As at earlier times, the ceremonies are carried on to appease Neptune, the mythological god of the seas. Those who have crossed the equator are called SHELLBACKS. These Sons of Neptune compose the cast for the present day ceremonies.
The boisterous ceremonies of "crossing the line" are ancient and their derivation is lost. It is well known that ceremonies took place long ago when the ship crossed the equator, as well as other 'lines", such as the 180th parallel, the thirtieth parallel, and also when going through the Straits of Gibraltar. Early ceremonies were rough and to a great extent supposed to try the crew to determine whether or not the novices on their first cruise could endure the hardships of life at sea. The custom then, as at present, is primarily a crew's party.
The Vikings were reported at an early date to carry out these ceremonies on crossing certain parallels. It is highly probable that the present day ceremony was passed on to the Anglo-Saxtons, and Normans from the Vikings. As at earlier times, the ceremonies are carried on to appease Neptune, the mythological god of the seas. Those who have crossed the equator are called SHELLBACKS. These Sons of Neptune compose the cast for the present day ceremonies.
I once saw a Captain lose his command, and NCO's from the 1SG, Platoon Sgt, and Section leader get written reprimands from a one star General over bull crap like that because a new recruit was picked on too much. The poor guy had a nervous breakdown and lots of people's careers were ruined over it. These were good men too, they just went too far. Too bad their careers were ruined over it because they either looked the other way or actively participated in it.
That's it, getting your "Shellback". I couldn't remember the term, thanks.
Shellback ceremonies recounted
BowlingNut
Member
yeah, well come dance with me kid. 32 on my ACT, 1380 on my SAT, 3.78 GPA, graduated from high school with 24 college credits, #15 in my class of 700, i claimed the top scholarship available at my college, and am florida academic scholar as well as a national merit commended scholar. you still think you're smarter than fraternity guys? come debate with me
BowlingNut
Member
Mods, please close this thread, the anti-greeks dont have the maturity to not thread-crap and the whole thread has just gone crappy.
Growltiger
Golden Member
Well, isn't this a case of the pot calling the kettle black (pardon the cliche). Looking at your previous post, it would appear that you have no business judging maturity.
Bowlingnut,
Just let it go. Its just another case of the "Haves" vs. the "Have-Nots". The same contempt has been shown for Greek organizations since they appeared on college campuses (1839), so don't expect it to end now. Some of these guys just need to "unplug" as they've obviously sat in their dorm room a few too many times on Friday and Saturday nights in college. That kind of depressing existence can have a lasting impression on the human psychii knowing there are thousands of evil Greeks having a good time and getting some action.
You won't truly understand the value of your fraternity experience until you're competing with these eggheads for the same job, and you get it. When you're schmoozing with executives in your company and entertaining clients at happy hours and that "other" new guy is sitting in the bathroom puking his brains out, you'll value all the "hazing" and 5-day benders you endured in school. Management styles and conflicting personalities won't affect you at work, you've already been through all that. You've endured difficult spans where you got little sleep or were forced to do things you didn't want to and be in places you didn't want to be, so meeting deadlines and working overtime won't even phase you. These are the same qualities that employers look for in new hires, not smart-ass slackers that sit behind their computer screens and play know-it-all.
Chiz
Just let it go. Its just another case of the "Haves" vs. the "Have-Nots". The same contempt has been shown for Greek organizations since they appeared on college campuses (1839), so don't expect it to end now. Some of these guys just need to "unplug" as they've obviously sat in their dorm room a few too many times on Friday and Saturday nights in college. That kind of depressing existence can have a lasting impression on the human psychii knowing there are thousands of evil Greeks having a good time and getting some action.
You won't truly understand the value of your fraternity experience until you're competing with these eggheads for the same job, and you get it. When you're schmoozing with executives in your company and entertaining clients at happy hours and that "other" new guy is sitting in the bathroom puking his brains out, you'll value all the "hazing" and 5-day benders you endured in school. Management styles and conflicting personalities won't affect you at work, you've already been through all that. You've endured difficult spans where you got little sleep or were forced to do things you didn't want to and be in places you didn't want to be, so meeting deadlines and working overtime won't even phase you. These are the same qualities that employers look for in new hires, not smart-ass slackers that sit behind their computer screens and play know-it-all.
Chiz
minendo
Elite Member
Does it make you feel special bragging about your achievements like this? Frankly, your stats don't mean crap. Numbers acquired in High School are no measure of greatness. Hell, you are not even a true Greek Monkey yet. Come to think of it Frats would love to have a guy like you. You would be one of the ones that keeps the house GPA up.
flavio
Diamond Member
Originally posted by: chizow
Bowlingnut,
Just let it go. Its just another case of the "Haves" vs. the "Have-Nots". The same contempt has been shown for Greek organizations since they appeared on college campuses (1839), so don't expect it to end now. Some of these guys just need to "unplug" as they've obviously sat in their dorm room a few too many times on Friday and Saturday nights in college. That kind of depressing existence can have a lasting impression on the human psychii knowing there are thousands of evil Greeks having a good time and getting some action.
You won't truly understand the value of your fraternity experience until you're competing with these eggheads for the same job, and you get it. When you're schmoozing with executives in your company and entertaining clients at happy hours and that "other" new guy is sitting in the bathroom puking his brains out, you'll value all the "hazing" and 5-day benders you endured in school. Management styles and conflicting personalities won't affect you at work, you've already been through all that. You've endured difficult spans where you got little sleep or were forced to do things you didn't want to and be in places you didn't want to be, so meeting deadlines and working overtime won't even phase you. These are the same qualities that employers look for in new hires, not smart-ass slackers that sit behind their computer screens and play know-it-all.
Chiz
Heheh...so you think Fraternities prepare you for real life? That's cute.
Evadman
Administrator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
Debate with you about what? Your "greekness"? Those stats mean nothing. NOTHING. Who cares? High School means nothing at all. You can sleep though high school and get a 3.78 GPA.
Actually, you know what? You have changed me. You are totaly correct, you would lay the smackdown on me and everyone else here. I humbly bow to you now. *bow* Please do not kill me with your super brain.
You are deluded if you think otherwise. You develop much closer relationships with more people than you do living in a dorm or with a couple guys in an apartment. You learn how to govern yourselves, how a decent-sized organization works, business management, and a lot of other things that you sound too closed-minded to even consider. As a fraternity we did a ton of community service and fund raising. Yeah we drank a hell of a lot too.
I'm sure at some schools fraternities suck. At RPI, for the most part only those without social skills didn't join a house.
Evadman
Administrator Emeritus<br>Elite Member
What was there to govern? You just send the pledge to get the beer. That's about all there is to "Govern" Well, maybe you have to decide who is going to perform sexual favors for the landlord since you spent the rent on beer, but that is beside the point.
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