Modding a XBOX 360

Budmantom

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Have they done it yet?

Not just adding a bigger HD and modding the case but burning the games(that you own) on the HD.


Tom
 

bmacd

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one group rumored to build a working mod chip, but it was a hoax.

-=bmacd=-
 

purbeast0

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let's just say .... it's not done yet ... publicly ;)

and don't expect to see chips coming out until around april/may. the iso's are out there for the games but you can't do anything with them yet.

i just want to see how these chip guys are going to get around the whole "forcing to update the dash" thing. When a chip comes out, MS is just going to have a dash update that will probably make your system not work with a chip until a new bios for the chip comes out that gets around it. I can see it just going in circles, but I dunno ... guess we'll find out :)
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
let's just say .... it's not done yet ... publicly ;)

and don't expect to see chips coming out until around april/may. the iso's are out there for the games but you can't do anything with them yet.

i just want to see how these chip guys are going to get around the whole "forcing to update the dash" thing. When a chip comes out, MS is just going to have a dash update that will probably make your system not work with a chip until a new bios for the chip comes out that gets around it. I can see it just going in circles, but I dunno ... guess we'll find out :)


An on/off switch?
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: purbeast0
let's just say .... it's not done yet ... publicly ;)

and don't expect to see chips coming out until around april/may. the iso's are out there for the games but you can't do anything with them yet.

i just want to see how these chip guys are going to get around the whole "forcing to update the dash" thing. When a chip comes out, MS is just going to have a dash update that will probably make your system not work with a chip until a new bios for the chip comes out that gets around it. I can see it just going in circles, but I dunno ... guess we'll find out :)


An on/off switch?

Well it still doesn't circumvent it. Just like you can't take a modded Xbox now online with a chip, same with the 360. Long as it's offline it doesn't matter.
 

SampSon

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They are working on it. Not available yet.
There is a method to raw dump the games, but you can't do anything with them at this point.
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: purbeast0
let's just say .... it's not done yet ... publicly ;)

and don't expect to see chips coming out until around april/may. the iso's are out there for the games but you can't do anything with them yet.

i just want to see how these chip guys are going to get around the whole "forcing to update the dash" thing. When a chip comes out, MS is just going to have a dash update that will probably make your system not work with a chip until a new bios for the chip comes out that gets around it. I can see it just going in circles, but I dunno ... guess we'll find out :)


An on/off switch?

Well it still doesn't circumvent it. Just like you can't take a modded Xbox now online with a chip, same with the 360. Long as it's offline it doesn't matter.


You can take a (hard)modded xbox online as long as it's off, or am I missing something?


Tom
 

greenman100

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: purbeast0
let's just say .... it's not done yet ... publicly ;)

and don't expect to see chips coming out until around april/may. the iso's are out there for the games but you can't do anything with them yet.

i just want to see how these chip guys are going to get around the whole "forcing to update the dash" thing. When a chip comes out, MS is just going to have a dash update that will probably make your system not work with a chip until a new bios for the chip comes out that gets around it. I can see it just going in circles, but I dunno ... guess we'll find out :)


An on/off switch?

Well it still doesn't circumvent it. Just like you can't take a modded Xbox now online with a chip, same with the 360. Long as it's offline it doesn't matter.


You can take a (hard)modded xbox online as long as it's off, or am I missing something?


Tom



different deal

360 dash updates will be embedded in every game disk - so if you want to run a game that was released after your modchip, or go online, ever, then you're f'ed


orginal xbox's mod was int eh BIOS - the stock dashboard never saw the mod
 

royaldank

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Have they done it yet?

Not just adding a bigger HD and modding the case but burning the games(that you own) on the HD.

They haven't figured out how to add a larger drive yet. They haven't figured out how to do anything yet. Also, MS responded fairly quickly once the news the kiosk disc would work if you burned the image on disc. They had a security update ready to go about 2 weeks later. This one might be a tough battle, especially those that want to play online with a modded unit.



 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: royaldank
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Have they done it yet?

Not just adding a bigger HD and modding the case but burning the games(that you own) on the HD.

They haven't figured out how to add a larger drive yet. They haven't figured out how to do anything yet. Also, MS responded fairly quickly once the news the kiosk disc would work if you burned the image on disc. They had a security update ready to go about 2 weeks later. This one might be a tough battle, especially those that want to play online with a modded unit.


80 gb hd ?
 

Budmantom

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Originally posted by: greenman100
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: purbeast0
let's just say .... it's not done yet ... publicly ;)

and don't expect to see chips coming out until around april/may. the iso's are out there for the games but you can't do anything with them yet.

i just want to see how these chip guys are going to get around the whole "forcing to update the dash" thing. When a chip comes out, MS is just going to have a dash update that will probably make your system not work with a chip until a new bios for the chip comes out that gets around it. I can see it just going in circles, but I dunno ... guess we'll find out :)


An on/off switch?

Well it still doesn't circumvent it. Just like you can't take a modded Xbox now online with a chip, same with the 360. Long as it's offline it doesn't matter.


You can take a (hard)modded xbox online as long as it's off, or am I missing something?


Tom



different deal

360 dash updates will be embedded in every game disk - so if you want to run a game that was released after your modchip, or go online, ever, then you're f'ed


orginal xbox's mod was int eh BIOS - the stock dashboard never saw the mod

Well if they get it to work off line only that won't be too bad.

Tom

 

Trikat

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Originally posted by: gigapet
yeah pirating games should go over well ....lock'r up

You know not all people use the Modding of Xboxes to pirate games.
I think it is a great idea as games load on the regular Xbox atleast 3-5 times faster.
I don't know what I would be doing in those games that require constant loading/saving due to it being so freaking hard without the mods.
 

Homerboy

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Originally posted by: Trikat
Originally posted by: gigapet
yeah pirating games should go over well ....lock'r up

You know not all people use the Modding of Xboxes to pirate games.
I think it is a great idea as games load on the regular Xbox atleast 3-5 times faster.
I don't know what I would be doing in those games that require constant loading/saving due to it being so freaking hard without the mods.

The ignorance in this thread is painful. pirating games or not modding an xbox for WHATEVER resaon is illegal if you are using a modified version of the MS supplied bios. You can "mod" an xbox all you want if you load a home brewed BIOS that loads *NIX or something similar. But that is hardly useful and really used 99.9% as a loop hole to allow mod chi pdevelopers to actually develop, manufacture and sell chips... what you do AFTER that is not their responsibility.

They have added larger harddrives as has been pointed out and you can certainly go online with a modded xbox. MS did come out about a year ago to ban people/boxes that were modified AFTER they had already been online (if I recall it was a hardware/EEPROM/BIOS/name tag check combination of some nature. Your hardware signature was tied to your EEPROM. Change your hardware etc you were banned).


Regardless, rest assured there a lot of people out there hammering away on the 360 to get it cracked for ANY purpose. If I recall chip makers actually got their hands on a dev unit long before the 360 hit store shelves.

 

Nocturnal

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Originally posted by: gigapet
yeah pirating games should go over well ....lock'r up

Just because modifying a console can result in pirating games does not mean someone will pirate games. There are other reasons/features that one would mod their XBOX for.
 

ivol07

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: royaldank
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Have they done it yet?

Not just adding a bigger HD and modding the case but burning the games(that you own) on the HD.

They haven't figured out how to add a larger drive yet. They haven't figured out how to do anything yet. Also, MS responded fairly quickly once the news the kiosk disc would work if you burned the image on disc. They had a security update ready to go about 2 weeks later. This one might be a tough battle, especially those that want to play online with a modded unit.


80 gb hd ?


I'm sure it's just an 80GB Hard Drive connected just as you would connect any other external hard drive....but I wonder how he fit it into the actual console. And what's the point of having it in there because you can't save anything to it from the xbox, you would have to remove it to save anything to it then put it back in. Sounds lame.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: purbeast0
let's just say .... it's not done yet ... publicly ;)

and don't expect to see chips coming out until around april/may. the iso's are out there for the games but you can't do anything with them yet.

i just want to see how these chip guys are going to get around the whole "forcing to update the dash" thing. When a chip comes out, MS is just going to have a dash update that will probably make your system not work with a chip until a new bios for the chip comes out that gets around it. I can see it just going in circles, but I dunno ... guess we'll find out :)


An on/off switch?

I'm not talking about a switch or going on live. I'm talking about this....

Say a modchip comes out ... version bios of 1.0 or whatever, and has an on off switch. So it works for 1 month then microsoft comes out with a dash update. Keep in mind, you MUST update your dash to even connect to live. So even if you turn off your modchip, sign into live to play a legit copy of a game, you then have downloaded the update for the dash.

However this update will make it so bios 1.0 on your modchip no longer works on your 360, regardless of if you are connected to live or not. So now we need to wait for a bios version 1.1 that will get around this update.

Then 1 month later ... MS puts out another update that does the same thing. THIS is the circle I was talking about. It's already obvious that the dash can fix internal security issues. With the first dash update they had a few weeks ago, you could no longer run the Kiosk Demo Disc off of a DVDR (if you follow the scene you know what disc I mean). Previously, before that update, you could burn the Kiosk Demo Disc onto a DVDR and your 360 would boot it up no problem.

The reason for that was because the media flag wasn't set on that disc. However, as seen in this past live update, microsoft fixed that loophole and now the demo disc does not run off of a DVDR anymore.

EDIT: oh, and that "modded 80gb HDD" is not a mod at all. It can't even use the HDD for anything that the 360 HDD can be used for (storing stuff dl'ed off of the marketplace, saving games, etc). All it is used for is an extra storage device where you can store mp3's and what not on.
 

Rickten

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
Originally posted by: Trikat
Originally posted by: gigapet
yeah pirating games should go over well ....lock'r up

You know not all people use the Modding of Xboxes to pirate games.
I think it is a great idea as games load on the regular Xbox atleast 3-5 times faster.
I don't know what I would be doing in those games that require constant loading/saving due to it being so freaking hard without the mods.

The ignorance in this thread is painful. pirating games or not modding an xbox for WHATEVER resaon is illegal if you are using a modified version of the MS supplied bios. You can "mod" an xbox all you want if you load a home brewed BIOS that loads *NIX or something similar. But that is hardly useful and really used 99.9% as a loop hole to allow mod chi pdevelopers to actually develop, manufacture and sell chips... what you do AFTER that is not their responsibility.

They have added larger harddrives as has been pointed out and you can certainly go online with a modded xbox. MS did come out about a year ago to ban people/boxes that were modified AFTER they had already been online (if I recall it was a hardware/EEPROM/BIOS/name tag check combination of some nature. Your hardware signature was tied to your EEPROM. Change your hardware etc you were banned).


Regardless, rest assured there a lot of people out there hammering away on the 360 to get it cracked for ANY purpose. If I recall chip makers actually got their hands on a dev unit long before the 360 hit store shelves.

yup, most of the software got its roots from stolen dev kits.
 

Kelemvor

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/lifehacker/2006...;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

Free program Xplorer360 hacks its way through the closed-source file system that is the XBox 360 and allows you full access to playing around with what's inside your XBox hard drive. From Gizmodo:

The program allows you to browse the entire 360 and even lets you drag files from your original XBox over to the 360, which, as we know, used to be impossible. There is even a new site, 360gamesaves, where you can trade saved games with others.

So there you have it, gamers. The first step in turning your 360 into the delightfully hackable gaming and home entertainment piece of hardware it was always made to be.
 

Pepsei

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forget xbox, we need a solution for using cheap inks on Canon PIXMA chiped printers.