[modcrash.com] Nvidia 320.18 WHQL Display Driver is Damaging GPUs

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NIGELG

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imho,

5870 was a welcomed choice, efficient chip, did bring welcomed features like multi-monitor support -- one can argue offer a balanced architecture but had artifacts with filtering transitions and nice to see third party sites investigate filtering strongly -- discuss motion, imho.

AMD had success over-all and the 5XXX series; as they did over-take over-all discrete leadership away from nVidia.
Did you see these artifacts?
 

NIGELG

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I did a benchmark suite with a 5870 vs GTX 480 and I did notice some artifacts in Half Life 2 and Far Cry on the 5870 at the time.
Of course you did....and I am almost sure you've never seen artifacts on any Nvidia card:cool:.

Am I right?
 

NIGELG

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Of course I have. And you've got serious bias issues. Get it under control.
You are compensated for being inherently biased and you cannot resist being that way.

You keep acting as though you are still a moderator.Get over it ,Man...you are not.

Do your job and address the topic at hand of Nvidia allegedly damaging GPU's with their 320.18 drivers...:cool:.
 

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My verdict from experience in using them is they are crap,probably worst Nvidia drivers I have ever used and I can go right back to Nvidia TNT days(my first Nvidia card),random lockups while browsing etc even before I get to gaming(Reliability History also showed Nvidia has the culprit),had a couple of ME3 crashes while launching multiplay,went back to 314.22s and everything is running great even in gaming.

Btw I never bothered installing the Nvidia Experience software either with 320.18s.
 

SirPauly

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Did you see these artifacts?

Indeed, when I investigated a 5850 first hand! What I received in rebuttal was nVidia biased and the infamous static AF flower as proof of AMD's superior filtering. My rebuttal was quality is about motion.

Thankfully, third party sites also did see them. Filtering quality is the very first thing I investigate, specifically angles and transitions with higher frequency textures.
 

SirPauly

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Of course you did....and I am almost sure you've never seen artifacts on any Nvidia card:cool:.

Am I right?

Imho

Absolutely had transition artifacts with the 6XXX and 7XXX series from nVidia years ago -- filtering quality wasn't their strength --- felt the optimizations were too aggressive -- bigger performance hit with high quality.

From the G-80/G92 to today -- filtering has been impressive and a very welcomed strength.

The mip map transition problems with the 5XXX series from AMD was a hardware issue or limitation.
 

NIGELG

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Indeed, when I investigated a 5850 first hand! What I received in rebuttal was nVidia biased and the infamous static AF flower as proof of AMD's superior filtering. My rebuttal was quality is about motion.

Thankfully, third party sites also did see them. Filtering quality is the very first thing I investigate, specifically angles and transitions with higher frequency textures.
Okay then.But you sometimes make out that Nvidia is super perfect.No company is perfect...drivers included.

'Investigating' and owning a 5850 are two different things.I used to own one and it gave me three years of total satisfaction...and I did not see any such artifacts...static or in motion....AF maxed!!!!

I think we need more proof that these latest drivers are damaging cards.I don't own an Nvidia card any more so I can't comment further on that.....but some people who actually own the cards in this thread say that are having issues.
 

Zanovar

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The driver has been fine for me with games im playing at the mo,seems a shitty one with lots of peeps with certain titles though.anyways gone back to
314.22 as a precaution.
 

sushiwarrior

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Well I didn't .What third party sites are you talking about?

Did you even own a 5850?

Dude, just let it slide. He's got a valid point. He's not saying the 5xxx series was unplayable or anything, just that artifacts were possible. No point arguing about it.
 

SirPauly

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Anandtech said:
The second change we saw with Barts and the 6800 series was AMD’s refined texture filtering engine. AMD’s texture filtering engine from the 5800 set new standards by offering angle independent filtering, but it had an annoying quirk with highly regular/noisy textures where it didn’t do a good enough job blending together various mipmaps, resulting in visible transitions between them. For the 6800 series AMD fixed this, and it can now properly blend together noisy textures.

It was a hardware issue!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4061/amds-radeon-hd-6970-radeon-hd-6950/2#
 

Vesku

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https://forums.geforce.com/default/...-driver-feedback-thread-released-5-23-13-/61/

Up to 61 pages on the official Nvidia thread on 320.18 WHQL. Considering how many people found that thread to post about it killing their 400 and 500 series cards, there may be something to it. From many of the descriptions they start with similar glitches to what some 600 and 700 series users get with this driver version but at some point their card no longer responds.
 
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Zanovar

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There is problems with this driver obviously,reading some of those nvidia pages made my headache.anyways.
 

Keysplayr

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You are compensated for being inherently biased and you cannot resist being that way.

You keep acting as though you are still a moderator.Get over it ,Man...you are not.

Do your job and address the topic at hand of Nvidia allegedly damaging GPU's with their 320.18 drivers...:cool:.

No, I'm not. I was always this way.

Yes, I cannot resist catering to my nature.

I don't have to be a moderator to ask you to get a grip on your bias and emotional states now do I? No. Of course not.

I do not work for Nvidia. I beta test hardware and software ON OCCASION. That is it. Knock this crap off, it sounds desperate. LOL.

I don't believe the 320.18 drivers are physically harming GPU's. I think there is something wrong with the drivers and game compatibility. What exactly that is, I do not know and would rather wait to hear from Nvidia just like you would.
 

Zanovar

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No, I'm not. I was always this way.

Yes, I cannot resist catering to my nature.

I don't have to be a moderator to ask you to get a grip on your bias and emotional states now do I? No. Of course not.

I do not work for Nvidia. I beta test hardware and software ON OCCASION. That is it. Knock this crap off, it sounds desperate. LOL.

I don't believe the 320.18 drivers are physically harming GPU's. I think there is something wrong with the drivers and game compatibility. What exactly that is, I do not know and would rather wait to hear from Nvidia just like you would.

Out of the goodness out of your heart i guess,sorry keys i couldnt resist:p
 
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NIGELG

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No, I'm not. I was always this way.

Yes, I cannot resist catering to my nature.

I don't have to be a moderator to ask you to get a grip on your bias and emotional states now do I? No. Of course not.

I do not work for Nvidia. I beta test hardware and software ON OCCASION. That is it. Knock this crap off, it sounds desperate. LOL.

I don't believe the 320.18 drivers are physically harming GPU's. I think there is something wrong with the drivers and game compatibility. What exactly that is, I do not know and would rather wait to hear from Nvidia just like you would.
Your beloved Nvidia is the spotlight for driver issues,far different from the normal ''AMD drivers suxz!!!''

You are obligated to spin and do damage control.That is what sounds desperate to me.