Moca setup with Verizon

Fleshzombie

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I had my house set up using the Actiontec MI424WR Rev 1 with coax from ONT, I then used some actiontec moca adapters to run the network through the house since it is wired for Coax to ethernet switches which I plugged my IP cams, gaming systems, etc. I got a fancy new Nighthawk R8000 router that I would like to use for faster wireless speeds & range, etc. so I set up the MI424WR as a moca WAN bridge successfully and got the wireless network going.


My question is whether I can use the Auctiontech moca adapters (ECB2500C) to send the LAN back throughout the house using the coax connection. I thought this was possible simply by ethernet from LAN port on nighthawk router into the moca adapter back into a splitter that houses the same connection coming in through the MI424WR bridge. Since it worked as 2 way traffic before turning the MI424WR into a bridge. When I tried doing this I lost internet connection and my computer which was plugged directly into the Nighthawk kept altering between no network cable plugged in, and no internet connection.... I am guessing since the signal was split before the bridge, it was sending the traffic directly into the Nighthawk router via coax to ethernet instead of ethernet to coax (which I heard most moca adapters cant transfer the fios signal like this).


anyways, I am trying to use coax through MI424WR as a bridge into my Netgear router then Moca back to the other rooms of my house using moca adapters, is this possible?
 

VirtualLarry

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First, you must realize, that there are different frequency bands used by MoCA.

For Verizon FIOS, there's "MoCA WAN", which is between the ONT, using Coax, to the Verizon router.

There's also "MoCA LAN", which the Verizon router also speaks, as well as those ActionTec MoCA ethernet to coax bridge devices you have.

And for completeness, you need "MoCA LAN 2.0 Bonded" adapters, to get full gigabit speed out of MoCA, which I'm guessing that you don't have.

Btw, if you have Coax from the ONT ("MoCA Wan"), then you NEED a Verizon router, with a Coax connection. You CANNOT connect an ActionTec Moca LAN ethernet bridge to talk MoCA WAN to the ONT. Different frequency ranges, won't work.

However, you should be able to:

Use a Verizon router connected to ONT via Coax, and then plug an ActionTec MoCA (LAN) bridge, ethernet side to VZ router LAN ports, Coax to house wiring distribution, and then connect up another ActionTec MoCA LAN bridge, Coax to house wiring in room you wan the Nighthawk connected, and then connect the ethernet side to a LAN port on the Nighthawk, and disable DHCP and NAT on the Nighthawk, if you want to use it as an AP only for wifi.
 

Fleshzombie

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Aug 17, 2018
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First, you must realize, that there are different frequency bands used by MoCA.

For Verizon FIOS, there's "MoCA WAN", which is between the ONT, using Coax, to the Verizon router.

Btw, if you have Coax from the ONT ("MoCA Wan"), then you NEED a Verizon router, with a Coax connection. You CANNOT connect an ActionTec Moca LAN ethernet bridge to talk MoCA WAN to the ONT. Different frequency ranges, won't work.

Yeah Ive read that it could not be done with a simple MoCA adapter which is why I set up the Verizon router into a bridge mode. I was just hoping there was a way to force the incoming WAN through the verizon router in bridge mode into the Nightwhawk, then LAN MoCA from the Nighthawk through a MoCA adapter but I dont think its possible.

However, you should be able to:

Use a Verizon router connected to ONT via Coax, and then plug an ActionTec MoCA (LAN) bridge, ethernet side to VZ router LAN ports, Coax to house wiring distribution, and then connect up another ActionTec MoCA LAN bridge, Coax to house wiring in room you wan the Nighthawk connected, and then connect the ethernet side to a LAN port on the Nighthawk, and disable DHCP and NAT on the Nighthawk, if you want to use it as an AP only for wifi.

This is how I had it set up before, minus using the Nighthawk as an AP, I might try this out, I was just hoping to be able to use my better router for the network management.

Seems like the 2 options are what you suggested above, or have them switch ONT to ethernet and figuring out how to run a cable to where the router is.

Thanks for the help.
 

VirtualLarry

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have them switch ONT to ethernet and figuring out how to run a cable to where the router is.
That's really the best option. I had my ONT WAN port switched to ethernet. Also, I went above 100Mbit/sec of speed, which requires ethernet. I'm already starting to plan out for 10GBase-T. Should be fun!