MoCA Adapters not increasing LAN speed

[akishore]

So I bought two Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax adapters and I connected one upstairs where my Verizon FIOS router is and another one down in the basement.

Upstairs I connected the coax from the wall into the splitter and then connected one coax to the FIOS router and one to the MoCA adapter. I then plugged the Ethernet cable from the adapter to the FIOS router.

Downstairs I just connected the cox from the wall directly to the MoCA adapter and then the Ethernet from the adapter to another FIOS router that I have downstairs.

The second FIOS router downstairs is the same Actiontec router as upstairs and I use it as a bridge.

Now everything works, but my speeds are exactly the same as when I didn't have the MoCA 2.0 adapters. I was hoping for speeds of around 80 to 100 MBs per second, but instead am stuck at 10 MBs per second.

What I am doing wrong? Why did the speed not increase? My house is new and the coax cabling should be fine.

I can't understand why I'm not getting closer to 1 gigabit rather than just 100 Mbps. Please help!

 

[VirtualLarry]

So I bought two Actiontec Bonded MoCA 2.0 Ethernet to Coax adapters and I connected one upstairs where my Verizon FIOS router is and another one down in the basement.

Upstairs I connected the coax from the wall into the splitter and then connected one coax to the FIOS router and one to the MoCA adapter. I then plugged the Ethernet cable from the adapter to the FIOS router.

Downstairs I just connected the cox from the wall directly to the MoCA adapter and then the Ethernet from the adapter to another FIOS router that I have downstairs.

The second FIOS router downstairs is the same Actiontec router as upstairs and I use it as a bridge.

Now everything works, but my speeds are exactly the same as when I didn't have the MoCA 2.0 adapters. I was hoping for speeds of around 80 to 100 MBs per second, but instead am stuck at 10 MBs per second.

What I am doing wrong? Why did the speed not increase? My house is new and the coax cabling should be fine.

I can't understand why I'm not getting closer to 1 gigabit rather than just 100 Mbps. Please help!

I don't think MoCA is Gigabit? MoCA 1.0/1.1, as found on Verizon's routers, is only up to 100Mbit. I'm not even sure if their newest "Quantum Gateway" routers enable the faster speeds of MoCA 2.0 yet, even if the hardware is capable of it.

So if you are using Rev. I Actiontec routers in the mix, then I'm pretty sure that they max out at 100Mbit.

Sorry.

Edit: I'm basing this all on the fact that if you order FIOS speeds above 100Mbit, and sometimes even at 100Mbit, they schedule a truck roll to switch your ONT over from MoCA to ethernet (gigabit). That's because the MoCA WAN on the ONT maxes at 100Mbit.

Here's a good tech doc on it.
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1278926

 

[akishore]

Hey thanks for the reply. So I figured that the Actiontec routers were using MoCA 1.1 and that's why I got these MoCA 2.0 adapters, which also only go up to 500 Mbit or something like that, but it would still be better than 100 Mbit.

I thought I could use these adapters to bypass the slow MoCA on the routers. Upstairs I have the coax from the wall going to the splitter and then one coax to the router and one to the adapter.

Downstairs I connected it from the wall to the adapter and then plugged the Ethernet port on the adapter directly to my computer, bypassing the downstairs router.

So I thought I could get a higher speed since it was MoCA adapter to MoCA adapter...

But you are saying the max speed for MoCA over coax is 100 Mbit?

 

[ccbadd]

Check your splitter. It needs to be 2 Ghz or higher.

 

[akishore]

I checked the splitter and it says MoCA 2.0 2-way splitter 5-1675MHz 6kV 3.5dB. Is that a workable one for that speed?

 

[ccbadd]

That should work. I think MoCa 2.0 goes up to 1650Mhz. You are referring to the main splitter for the whole house and not one you added from the wall jack right?

 

[jmmtn4aj]

I got capped at 90-100mbps till I checked one of the ethernet cables in the loop; it was only 2-pair, although still (wrongly?) labelled as Cat 5e. 2-pair has a max speed of 100mbit. Once I switched to a 4-pair Cat 5e (gigabit) I started maxing out my 200/200mbps fibre line instantly.

 

[akishore]

ccbadd: I was talking about the splitter that I connected to from the wall. I don't even know about the whole house splitter. I was assuming Verizon would have set that up for max speed no? Where would I even find that? In the basement? What am I looking for exactly?

jmmtn4aj: I have tried multiple Cat 5e cables just to check that, but no luck. Also, my Internet upload/download speed is maxing out at 75/75, but I can't get the 1000 Mbps speed on my internal LAN using these adapters.

Anything I can do?

 

[jmmtn4aj]

The main splitter should be where the coax cables enter your house, and the main splitter splits that single coax run into the different runs into each of your rooms.

The main splitter should not be 5-1675Mhz, in fact they should be 5-~1000mhz, i.e. (http://www.amazon.com/Filter-MoCA-Cable-Coaxial-Networking/dp/B00DC8IEE6). My main splitter was of that category, but if yours isn't then you should get that product I linked to and add it before your main splitter.

The idea is that MoCA equipment operates above 1000Mhz, so within your house you want signals within that range of frequency to travel freely. However if your neighbor has equipment that is also broadcasting on that range (e.g. if they have MoCA equipment too), then you want to filter those signals out before they get into the coax network in your home, which is why you filter it out at coax's point of entry from the street (or shared apartment run) into your home. The filter blocks MoCA signals without interfering with cable TV signals (which have to come from outside into your home) which operate <~1000Mhz. It also stops MoCA signals within your home coax network from travelling out of your house, which ensures the privacy of your network as well as prevents your equipment from interfering with your neighbor's MoCA equipment.

FWIW my main splitter was located in a cabinet outside my front door where the communal (I live in an apartment) electrical, phone and coax runs split into my next-door neighbor's and my apartment

 

[akishore]

jmmtn4aj: Thanks for the info. So I went down into the basement and found the Verizon box. I have attached an image to show the connections.

The main splitter is also 5-1675 Mhz, so I guess I'll buy the filter you recommended. However, I'm not sure where to connect it.

So the splitter is taking two inputs from the house and the single side is going to the Verizon box.

On the split site, one cable is coming from a unit that has all the other coax cables coming from the house. The other side is just another cable coming from somewhere, but I can't tell.

So out of the three locations on the splitter, where should I connect this filter?

Thanks for your help.

 

[akishore]

 

[akishore]

Also, will this increase the speed if I add this filter? Do I need to change the splitter in either location (Verizon box or upstairs)? Thanks!

 

[akishore]

Anybody can give me a last bit of help here on this one? Would really appreciate it.