Mobile PIII versus mobile P4 celeron?

[Liver]

What would you recommend between a choice of those two processors. Of course assuming that with the PIII you would get whatever came with that platform at the time.

Liver

 

[ssvegeta1010]

Mobile Celeron, unless thats a very high-end PIII.

 

[phaxmohdem]

What machines are you hinting at? and what clock speeds are we talking?

 

[Liver]

Originally posted by: phaxmohdem
What machines are you hinting at? and what clock speeds are we talking?

not really hinting at any machine in particular, just a comment on the platform. I read somewhere that the pentium M shares more with the p3 than the p4 (cooling and such).

was wondering if you would prefer a true pentium 3 mobile platform in a laptop, or a mobile celeron pentium 4 platform.

liver

 

[phaxmohdem]

For me there a several factors that would affect that decision....

First portability/size >>> The PIIIm acrcitecture is available in many ultra portables such as the IBM x21 and Dell Latitudes. The Current P4 Celeron offerings, really have no great portability options. they are targeted at budget users, who think and laptop is a laoptop, and as such will be getting a slower bulky unit.

Second, speed/performance. >>> The PIIIm is pretty similar to the Pentium M. The P-M basically is a souped up PIII. If portability was not a factor I would go with a higher end PIIIm chip (1-1.2 GHz). I would only go with a P4 celeron chip at 2.53 gHz or higher... To me this is the cut of where you would get better across teh board performance out of the celeron compared to the PIII.

Overall I feel that the PIIIm platform is better made and more reliable. Granted it is using older supporting hardware, so it may be hard to find units with built-in Wi-Fi/Bluetooth, and DDR RAM is out of the question. Bottom line, I wouldn't touch a celeron laptop from a performance standpoint under 2.53 GHz. The crazy part about that is that once you get up in those high numbers it will start producing more and more heat, and using more juice.... So its really a sort of Catch 22.

The celeron-M (Penium-m derivative) is a decent performer, and I would highly suggest looking into that chip as a budget laptop solution as opposed to the P4-Celeron.

 

[vegetation]

Depends on what P3. If it' Coppermine, then no, because it's pretty slow compared to the Celeron and quite power hungry.

 

[Liver]

phaxmohdem,

that is exactly the information i am looking for. I am debating getting a laptop / notebook computer to install and learn linux. I do not have the space for a desktop to do so, nor do I want a dual boot machine. A laptop would provide me a useful platform and I can learn at a local coffee shop.

so the chips in question would be the mobile variety. the celeron M versus the pentium III mobile, for my experiment I do not need alot of processing power, but I also don't want to get saddled with a seriously crappy machine. I have some useful gear that I can put into a laptop (memory and drives), but those items would only work with a new platform. The use of my components is one of the main reasons I am asking about the the celeron m platform.

I also would like something small (totablility) and something with a DVD drive or base station with DVD (bought SuSe on DVD).

Any good recommendations on a celeron M with those specs?

edit: I also truly like pointing stick device (like on the thinkpads).

Liver

 

[phaxmohdem]

I'd suggest the Thinkpad T23. It can be found under $500 readily on ebay or similar places, and has a broad linux support user base. Also has your eraser point mouse, DVD, VERY portable size, and a killer keybaord. It takes PC133 SD RAM however, so I don't know if you'd be able to use that stuff you currently have.

As for a Celeron-M platform, you're not going to find much that exactly meeds your needs. The closest I could find is this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...em&item=6786703990&category=80209&rd=1