Mobil 1 synthetic oil @ Target for $3.39 ymmv

[Ziptar]

Mobil1 is THE ONLY real synthetic oil available in the retail channels. After going 107K miles on THE SAME filter and 5 Quarts of Mobil1 in my 1998 Jetta Turbo Diesel, I swear by it.. At 167,000 Miles I traded in 1998 for a 2003. Th 198 was still running strong when I traded it in. I got 2003 in November and I already have 6,000 miles on it. It just got it's first Oil Change and I did the $27.00 Mobil1 Oil Change at Walmart.. I Plan on sticking to VW's 10,000 mile oil change interval with the new car . I hear people say "Oil is OIL.." it's not true...

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[squirrel dog]

Thanks for the links,great find.

 

[sat4fun]

Just make sure that oil is in your car, and change it regularly and you will be ok.

 

[TourGuide]

tour, what do you expect man. its a dodge. no oil could have saved it

I know, I know. After THAT disaster of a vehicle, the wife HAD to have another one of those POS vehicles (go figure) even after all the crap we had with it. So once the lease is up on this thing I am FINISHED with all Chrysler products forever. All vehicles break down from time to time, but the Chryslers that we've had seem to have more major (read - EXPENSIVE, TIME CONSUMING TO FIX) problems that seem to go on and on.

 

[geoffct]

The sythetic, from what I have heard, only really helps on startup. Standard oils contain parafins (aka Wax), When the car settles down to cool temperature the waxes crytalize. Then when it comes time to restart, the oil pump has much lower flow because of the wax, and your pistons/bearings/turbo do not get oil as much oil as fast, generating friction and wear. You ever hear 90 of engine wear occures on startup, this is why.

Now not to get off an a rant here, but if some manufature were to mandate synthetic, and use Dana's electric oil pump to get the oil flowing prestart, ie when you open the door or use the keyless entry, then maybe the wear could be even more reduced. The problem is that if they figuired out they had less wear, they would simply thin out the cylinder linings such that the car would still die at100kmi Bah, I hate the auto industry.

Tour:
My dad has had three dodge caravans 83-3 replaced headgaskets 89-2 replaced headgaskets-head warped 96-5(No joke) Transmissions (No engine problems ran Mobil 1). I had a 90 Plymouth acclaim, 2-blown headgaskets, head warped. See a pattern here? My dad didn't ,he finally bought an 03 honda oddity, AFTER the dodge he was test driving, wouldn't start and the sliding door handle broke off. Point of the story dodge cars are crap imho, except for the new trucks (.88g lat and a 345hp hemi in a pickup!), the jeeps(only cars DCS liked), and the new DCS cars (ie Pacifica). And, even the pacifica maybe bad, I mean look at the M-class.

Yes oil makes a difference, but mostly the engineering is what kills ya (no pun (or pinto) intended), and you will not find cars built to last, they are built to be replaced. It simply costs too much to make them last, and even if you could you couldn't sell the fact that your cars would last to 300-500 thousand miles, who would want a car that long, I mean the time it would be dying it would be coming right back into style.

Personally I run Mobil 1 0-40, I have a Contour SVT, my oil changes cost me ~$40-50 6 quarts + filter + $10 dealer inspection and oil change. I bought it because it was designed accross the pond, but unfortunately it was built over here, every problem has been a bq/manufaturing/cost cutting issue.

 

[dew042]

Originally posted by: db
Syn oil in the engine does 2 things, and neither of these may be important to you:
1. Easier starts in very cold weather;
2. Slightly higher gas milage.

Syn oils in trans, diffs, xfr cases, etc, is also a good thing in some applications.

this is why i use it up here in the great white north....

dew.

 

[all168]

Originally posted by: NeuroSynapsis
eh

i get it for like 22/6 @price club

or osmething liek that

I think the price went up to $23.99 at costco now, but still a bargain, 'cos $3.39 in target is YMMV only and is local, not nationwide, I went to 2 target yesterday and look for after x'mas stuffs and they still selling M1 for $4.69.

 

[MaximumVelocity]

If cars run forever, how the hell will car manufacturers sell new cars. Oil alone doesn't make car last, it starts from basic engineering.

 

[all168]

I used 5w-30 in my 10 years old corolla (I got it for $1.89 1/2 years ago from Walmart with Target PM) and it really bad, it probably wash out all the old seal inside the engine and valve, when I start the car, it came out a lot of smoke. So I suggest if you car is old, (mine only got 110K mi) if the engine is leaking, or any engine problem exist, don't try to used synthetic or thinking synthetic will help, it only create more problem for the leaking problem. But if you have a newer car, or always used synthetic, drive a lot of milage, or a brand new car after 7k miles, it is always great to used synthetic oil, at least not the thin weight like 5w-30, I may try 20w-50 in the future. But I really wondering how Benz or BMW can used synthetic oil for 20K before oil change.

 

[night]

it all comes down to tolerances. if every part is manufactured with a wide spec range, it will all be sh** sooner rather than later.
thats why the wide range of good vs bad stories. what you have to do is get a sort of ratio out of it. toyota and honda are still the leader in build quality.
i read an article not to long ago about the domestics expect to be caught up to the japanese within 3 years. who knows if that will happen, but for god's sake, please let them try.
but while toyota is still holding strong, i believe honda is dropping the ball lately in some areas (there engines are still rock solid) but they are getting cheap in some areas from the pressure. one of which is the focus. cheap ford crap. there was somthing like 16 safety recalls the first year of the focus. ford is without a doubt the worst of them all. they absolutely do not care about the car beyond getting you to buy it.

and yes, i am a mechanic/tech.

 

[TourGuide]

My dad has had three dodge caravans 83-3 replaced headgaskets 89-2 replaced headgaskets-head warped 96-5(No joke) Transmissions (No engine problems ran Mobil 1). I had a 90 Plymouth acclaim, 2-blown headgaskets, head warped. See a pattern here? My dad didn't ,he finally bought an 03 honda oddity, AFTER the dodge he was test driving, wouldn't start and the sliding door handle broke off. Point of the story dodge cars are crap imho, except for the new trucks (.88g lat and a 345hp hemi in a pickup!), the jeeps(only cars DCS liked), and the new DCS cars (ie Pacifica). And, even the pacifica maybe bad, I mean look at the M-class.

This pattern you talk about here is VERY clear to me. To my inlaws, who have bought Chrysler after Chrysler it is not. They still have all kinds of goofy problems, but it is still not clear to them where those problems come from. Their secret is to sell em down the road before too many problems happen. Here's the pattern I see: Chrysler = job security for the automotive techs.

Once this van goes down the road, I'm done with Chrysler probably for good. Even their new trucks are junk, despite the hemi's and all the chrome and window dressing they are still the same crapola enginering underneath. This is what Chrysler is famous for - their vehicles look great but their reliability factor is poop. No sir, I'll be going Ford or GM next.

 

[slappy76]

Originally posted by: yodayoda

Originally posted by: Windogg
My M5 drinks synthetic 5W-30 like fratboys on 2 for 1 beer at the local bar.

Cool.

Windogg

your M5?! we're not worthy, we're not worthy!

btw boggsie, 5 qt = 1.25 ga... 1 gallon is actually 4 quarts =)

yeah no kidding.. how many rebates does it take to get an 80k M5?

All my scooters run on synthetic.. smoother starts (but that's subjective).

 

[Emo]

This sale is a big YMMV. I checked another Target in the same vicinity (Houston) and their price was still $4.64. Oh well, Castrol GTX will do fine for 3k.

 

[all168]

Originally posted by: night
it all comes down to tolerances. if every part is manufactured with a wide spec range, it will all be sh** sooner rather than later.
thats why the wide range of good vs bad stories. what you have to do is get a sort of ratio out of it. toyota and honda are still the leader in build quality.
i read an article not to long ago about the domestics expect to be caught up to the japanese within 3 years. who knows if that will happen, but for god's sake, please let them try.
but while toyota is still holding strong, i believe honda is dropping the ball lately in some areas (there engines are still rock solid) but they are getting cheap in some areas from the pressure. one of which is the focus. cheap ford crap. there was somthing like 16 safety recalls the first year of the focus. ford is without a doubt the worst of them all. they absolutely do not care about the car beyond getting you to buy it.

and yes, i am a mechanic/tech.

I think Chrysler & Ford still have long way to go before they can catch the quality of Toyota or Honda, just take a look at their "world class" car Focus in the recall listing, then you'll see how is their quality.

 

[Password]

Originally posted by: Windogg
My M5 drinks synthetic 5W-30 like fratboys on 2 for 1 beer at the local bar.

Cool.

Windogg

You may want to try Mobil 1 10w-30 in the place of 5w-30. It has the same flow properties as ordinary 5w-30 oil and the engine will hold the oil better.

 

[dongky]

i have an Acura RSX and it's recommended to have the oil changed @ 10000mi with dino oil :Q
but i have to put it in the shop for the oil change because they use a different magnetic drain bolt :| what a rip-off