Mobil 1 oil changes for only $30+tax. Guess where at?

[all168]

Salvador, the only break-in is no hard accelaration, driving at contsant speeds for long intervals, etc. for the first 1,000. Personally, I would change the oil after 1,000... It's only ~$30 for your peace of mind.

Some one on the top said the new car breakin required constant speed for a long interval, but I read several manuals for new car said don't drive on a constant speed for a long interval when the car still in breakin period, I don't understand this, is there any expert can help me resolve this qurestion, thanks.

 

[zmatrix]

Originally posted by: all168
Salvador, the only break-in is no hard accelaration, driving at contsant speeds for long intervals, etc. for the first 1,000. Personally, I would change the oil after 1,000... It's only ~$30 for your peace of mind.

Some one on the top said the new car breakin required constant speed for a long interval, but I read several manuals for new car said don't drive on a constant speed for a long interval when the car still in breakin period, I don't understand this, is there any expert can help me resolve this qurestion, thanks.

Yes it's true, I just bought a new Toyota HL and both the manual and the dealership said that it was bad to stay at a constant speed and that to avoid long trips. Best is to vary the speed and the amount of revving you do, but not to overdo it. My sales dude says to drive in traffic where I constantly stop and go and cruise from time to time. I guess it's to train your engine from hi to low to break in properly...I am not a mechanic but that's what common sense tells me.

 

[jrichrds]

Originally posted by: all168
Salvador, the only break-in is no hard accelaration, driving at contsant speeds for long intervals, etc. for the first 1,000. Personally, I would change the oil after 1,000... It's only ~$30 for your peace of mind.

Some one on the top said the new car breakin required constant speed for a long interval, but I read several manuals for new car said don't drive on a constant speed for a long interval when the car still in breakin period, I don't understand this, is there any expert can help me resolve this qurestion, thanks.

I'm sure it was just a slip and that poster meant to say DON'T drive at constant speeds.
What they really mean by that is to vary your RPMs constantly.
Many car engines, like those from Toyota, no longer have a formal break-in period. Which they specifically state, although they do still recommend the usual break-in tips for the first 1K miles. They're not hard to follow, so why not?

As for the comment about changing oil at first 1k, just check your owner's manual and follow the recommendation in there. Some manufacturers, like Honda, specifically state not to change your oil so soon (due to additives used in the factory fill that help an engine break-in, or so they say). Others have a 1K oil change as part of the service schedule.

 

[T2T III]

How many Hondas have died using Fram oil filters then? Hondas are reliable cars as far as I am aware - I'm sure they would not want to risk that over the use of substandard filters costing a few $$$

I guess it would be interesting to see if the OEM (Fram) filters that Honda uses are the *exact* same filters that we're able to buy in the retail channel. I'm using a Fram now because outside of using mail-order or an OEM filter from the dealership, it's the one that's available at several locations. However, if I could find a better filter with a plentiful supply, I'd order 5 or 6 of them.

 

[Vette73]

Fram filters use a paper gasket at the bottom, that is why they are getting beat around now.

STP and even Wal-Marts Tech2000 oil filter are made by Champion industries, they are better than Fram NOW. Fram use to be king, but they are using cheap parts in their filters. It kills me when I am at Autozone and someone says I don't want that junk STP, give me Fram. They end up paying more for then name and getting less quality.

But Autozones STP and Wal-Marts Tech2000 are very good filters.

Just like if you like Quaker State oil, I don't, then buy Wal-Marts Tech2000, it is Quaker State oil.

I use Reg. Mobil or Exxon oil in my cars. They had to many miles on them to warrent Syn. oil, as I had no control over how they drove them or took care of them before.



And also all the people talking about 5000mile oil changes, read all the industry papers, yes I am a mechanic. Jeep and toyota are having problems with their engines sludging up as even voided peoples warrenties acusing them of not having theor oil changed enough.
So if you plan on keeping your car for a while, 80K or more, then please change your oil every 3K if you use Reg, or 4-5K if you use a good Syn.
And Castrol's Syntec is NOT A 100% SYN. Mobil 1 is.

 

[exisle]

anyone recommend a place for tire work? It's time to get some new tires and some alignment and I'm thinking of having firestone do it

 

[gtd2000]

And also all the people talking about 5000mile oil changes, read all the industry papers, yes I am a mechanic. Jeep and toyota are having problems with their engines sludging up as even voided peoples warrenties acusing them of not having theor oil changed enough.

Well after a quick look at Nissan, Mitsubishi and Honda (U.K.) all of the models that I quickly looked at were 9000 mile intervals. This 3000 mile interval (while not detrimental) is simply a waste of time and money. Coincidentally my 240SX has an interval of 3700 miles. Is there really any difference between Nissan engines here in the USA and the UK or other markets?

Naturally if you are off-roading, competing or generally driving in extreme conditions then yes you need to vary the service interval, however, from my knowledge Toyota are not experiencing problems with their engines elsewhere (outside of the USA).

I would suspect owners are just generally not changing their oil as regularly as they should - there are many people out there who never bother to look at their cars AT ALL. The most likely cause of problems with sludging would be the perception that many cars are totally reliable nowadays (especially Japanese) and therefore don't service the cars as often as they should - and I don't mean 3000 miles.

So in summary, with all these industry papers - why are the service intervals 3 times longer than their recommendations elsewhere? This interval that they recommend will also be a length of time/distance which has a safety factor built in to protect their products surely? There are cars on sale in the UK with service intervals of 18000 miles.

These papers can only be written by organisations that have an interest selling oil products and services.

Perhaps I am cynical

 

[2Crucial]

i went to walmart yesterday for this exact same M1 oil change (coincidentally i had not read the thread). I watched him cuz i wanted to learn how to do it. he did everything (changed oil, topped everything, vacuumed) and was about to change the filter but when he was about to do it, he realized it was an oil filter in a canister and didn't have tools for that....said i would have to go to dealer. i have a 92 bmw 525i. so anyways, i got a few quarts of mobil 1 synthetic for free! too bad the bmw dealer is gonna charge me $$$ for an oil filter and change. also, wal mart uses Fram. i said, is that good. he said, yeah it's all we use. hehehe.

oh, and i think the walmart mechanic was fine. the only thing i didn't like though was he said it's ok to change my filter every other oil change...not sure if i want to follow his advice on that.

 

[gtd2000]

They change the oil and after doing that replace the filter?

I guess that must be something that you do when you "pump out" the oil as mentioned earlier here.

Normally you just remove the oil filler cap and then unscrew the oil filter and let the oil drain out via the sump drain bolt outlet.

You then replace the oil filter with the new one, replace the sump bolt and top up the oil to the recommended amounts - always remember that the filter requires to be filled also and they normally give this information (with or without filter change).

Regarding the changing of the oil filter every second oil change - this is a common and generally acceptable practice.
However with the cost of these 15 point services at Walmart I would not worry about this aspect too much.

 

[smu2000]

Originally posted by: exisle
anyone recommend a place for tire work? It's time to get some new tires and some alignment and I'm thinking of having firestone do it

Firestone will overcharge. I think Discount Tires is ok, but YMMV depending on location.

smu2k

 

[zippin44]

You absolutely do not have to change your Joe average Castrol oil every 3000 miles. My father-in-law is a lubrication chemist at Exxon, designing oil additives his entire life. He says change the oil as described in the car owner's manual. Personally, my Chevy Blazer has 200,000 miles on it, and I've been changing the oil every 10,000 miles or so since I got it. It doesn't burn or leak anything. My wife does what most people who lease cars do, and has probably changed the oil in her Camery twice in the 50,000 miles shes owned it. Now, whether I'd do that with my Porsche is a different story, but I can assure you, changing your oil every 3000 miles is a scam. Don't waste your money!

 

[studrew]

Hello oil experts,

What happens when you over fill the engine oil? I saw the mechanic put 9 quarts of oil in my car but a few hours later, my 'check engine' light went on . I then checked the owners manual and it said the car only take 7.5 - 8 quarts. Since I didnt want to drive all the way back, I drained oil myself until the dip-stick was at the 'max'. My question is... was there any damage done? What are the effects of overfilling the oil? Any response apprec. Thanks

AL

 

[gtd2000]

What happens when you over fill the engine oil?

Well it all depends - but it is not usually positive!

Seals can be blown and often oil leaks into the clutch housing.

Can you prove they overfilled your oil?

Essentially the system will be "over-pressured" this can result in engine damage - get it checked

 

[CigarSmokedByClinton]

I've got a question for you oil experts...

I have a '93 Lincoln town Car (4.6L V-8) w/ 181,000 miles on it, and it burns oil like a mofo. The oil is black very soon after an oil change, and I need to add a quart about every 500-700 miles. Do you reccommend me going to synthetic? What about MaxLife oil which is supposed to stop oil leaks. Does that work, or is it a scam? Or what about those fuel additives.
Scam?

LMK
Cigar

 

[studrew]

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> What happens when you over fill the engine oil?
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>Well it all depends - but it is not usually positive!
>Seals can be blown and often oil leaks into the clutch housing.
>Can you prove they overfilled your oil?
>Essentially the system will be "over-pressured" this can result in engine damage - get it checked

Well, I saw them put 9 quarts but I cant prove it since its his word against mine. Luckily the car doesnt seem to be leaking any oil... does this mean the seals didnt blow? Dam fools, can't they count the # of quarts? Hate going to a mechanics, I always feel like im getting ripped off...

AL

 

[all168]

To Marlin1975:
Since you are a mechanic, may I have a questions:
Why do most of the new car required 5w-20? Is the thinner oil better for the newer engine? I have a 15 years old camry, if I used 10w-40, I will need to add a qt of oil for every 1K mi, if I used 20w-50, which I used most of the time durning the year except winter I used 10w-40, with 20w-50, I don't need to add anything until at 2.5K when I change oil & filter. Is 10w-30, 10w-40 or even 20w-50 is too thick for the newer engine? What will happen if I used 10w30 or 10w-40 instead of 5w-20? I lived in Los Angeles, never below 35 degree, never seen frozen in the water pipe, thinner the oil is better for the cold weather to start the engine, but does 5w-20 has enough lubrication for the engine in the hot weather which is above 85-90 degree everyday or even 110 for several days durning summer.
BTW, most of the dealer recommend 7.5K, 10K or even 15K for an oil change, remember one thing, that's your car, if you eat a bigmac combo every Sun, the money you paid for the combo is a lot more than enough for a oil change in every 3k. If you car break down due to the dirty engine or not enough oil change, the dealer is more than happy to earn your business.

 

[gtd2000]

Hate going to a mechanics, I always feel like im getting ripped off...

Well you get good mechanics and bad mechanics and also cheap and expensive mechanics so your mileage will vary. I have seen mechanics techniques when working on cars that would make your toes curl

When the oil was over filled - did the guy just drain the "extra" oil out or did you start the car and drive off with too much oil?

Adding too much then draining the excess is fine - you may be lucky and no damage occured - it usually blows seals though - some of which may be very expensive to replace.

Assuming that there are no leaks present and the car operates normally then hopefully all is well

 

[studrew]

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>When the oil was over filled - did the guy just drain the "extra" oil out or did you start the car and drive off with too much oil?

Unfortunately, I drove about 15 miles after the oil was overfilled. For some reason the 'check engine' light didnt come on right away. Hopefully everything is ok since there is no leaks under the car. I cant afford the dealer $75/hour charge to inspect the car right now anyway. Last time I ever go there...

 

[2Crucial]

Originally posted by: gtd 2000
They change the oil and after doing that replace the filter?

I guess that must be something that you do when you "pump out" the oil as mentioned earlier here.

Normally you just remove the oil filler cap and then unscrew the oil filter and let the oil drain out via the sump drain bolt outlet.

You then replace the oil filter with the new one, replace the sump bolt and top up the oil to the recommended amounts - always remember that the filter requires to be filled also and they normally give this information (with or without filter change).

Regarding the changing of the oil filter every second oil change - this is a common and generally acceptable practice.
However with the cost of these 15 point services at Walmart I would not worry about this aspect too much.

i saw him drain the oil from the bottom of the car. and yeah, he did everything first then at the very end was about to change the filter. anyone know how to change an oil filter that is carried inside a "canister" (that's what they called it).

 

[Netma]

Originally posted by: kenja
Oil is flammable, so I don't think the usual shipping methods would apply.

Anyone have a link for discounted quality filters?

Mobil 1 has a very high flashpoint and it might be possible that there are no shipping restrictions.

 

[Netma]

I've had several new cars in the past ten years or so. I have always wondered why the owners amnual says to vary your speed during breakin. I don't think the engine knows the difference.

Many industrial diesel engines have constant speed govenors, which means the engine runs at constant speeds for long periods of time. Those engines last for 10000 hours or more without overhaul. Imagine your car engine after that many hours and much heavier loads.

My opinion is that the constant speed is bunk. Hope there's an automotive engineer around who can set me straight.

 

[Rally1]

I went to the Aliso Viejo CA Walmart for this oil change today. The place was scary, when I finally got to the counter they said it would be an hour before they could get to my car, so i left.

$30 is a great price, but it's cheaper for me to do it myself rather that wait around an hour plus.

check this cool toy out to make your next oil change easier:

oil valve use code YM1 for a 10% discount.

Just got one myself, and it came highly recommended from other Subaru WRX owners.

So now I need to track down some of the 5q jugs of Mobile1 and some puroil filters (they make the OEM subaru filter).

 

[Dan2]

Originally posted by: FastEddieG
Check Super Walmart.. when on sale (usually 2x a year) they have 5 quart jugs of Mobil 1 Full Synth for ~$16.76. I have (8) 5 quart jugs of 5W-30 and (10) 5 quart jugs of 10W-30 Mobil 1 Full Synth oil in my garage right now

Thanks for the post, it's a good deal for the full oil change!
-Eddie

Yep, I buy those 5 quart jugs. Saves $5 or so per oil change. I have a 92 Eclipse turbo and it basically needs Mobil 1, or at least I'm convinced.

I used to get bad lifter tick with Mobil 1 oil filters (Fram would probably blow my car up) so I buy Mitsu OEM filters. They are only $3 each (cheaper than the $5-6 for Mobil 1 filters), so my oil change costs me $20 for Mobil 1. Doing it yourself isn't clean, but it's really easy and I'd be willing to pay MORE to do it myself than have a Jiffy Lube, etc do it for me, seeing how they sometimes uses impact wrenches to put on oil plugs, or don't tighten them all the way! Yikes.

 

[Rally1]

hey, thats my other car! My 91' Talon (Turbo AWD) has gone 100k so far, with me feeding it Mobil1.

ref. lifter noise, checkout clubdsm.com (dsm.org) if you have not already.