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Salvador

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why would syntehtic's be greener, they are still petroleum products; they still cauze cancer, they still are a bitch to dispose of
The big reason is that you can go with longer drain intervals and actually use less oil. The other thing is that mining oil from our planet is not very "green". I'd rather see some chemist develop a synthetic oil in a lab than open up protected land in Alaska to drill for more oil. BTW.. Doesn't everything cause cancer these days?
So when it cleans the gunk out, obviously the synthetic begins to leak out This same scenario helped me finally convince a good friend to tear down his engine and rebuild/restify it.
It's that sludge barrier that I spoke of earlier. Crude oil builds this sludge barrier that actually holds the oil in. Because the sludge barrier is keeping your car from leaking, the gaskets and seals get dried out. When you put a clean oil like synthetic in your car and wipe away the sludge barrier, you then expose those dried out gaskets and seals to fresh synthetic oil and that's where your leaks come from.
Salvador, the only break-in is no hard accelaration, driving at contsant speeds for long intervals, etc. for the first 1,000. Personally, I would change the oil after 1,000... It's only ~$30 for your peace of mind.
Yes. That's the break-in procedure that I follow. I will also limit the rpm that you run, though it's good to gradually rev it out a bit at times, so you don't end up with a dog. Heh.
All new Porsches come with Mobil 1 because they are meant to be driven hard ;-)
I think it has more to do with the fact that the synthetic works better and Porsche probably worked out a nice deal with Mobil 1's marketing dept. ;)
And what's up with changing the oil if 3500 miles, you're supposed to get one every 2,000 miles
Even 3,000 miles has been considered a low interval for even crude oil. I think it was just a marketing move by Jiffy Lube to get you back sooner. I typically run between 3K and 5K miles, then do a oil filter change. The best thing is to just look at your oil occasionally. If it's brown, it's fine, if it's black or getting black, it's time to change it. What makes it black are the contaminates.

BTW.. I recommend a flush as well if you're going to changeover to synthetic. Mobil 1 doesn't mention anything about it, but Amsoil recommends and sells a flush. You add the can of flush to the oil before you change it and then let it run for 15-30 minutes to loosen all that junk up. Then you do the oil change.

What I used to do in the old days with crude oil was use about a half of quart of transmission (Dexron) fluid in the oil before dumping it. When the oil got about a half quart low, I'd top it off with the tranny fluid, run it for a day or so and then change the oil. That seemed to clean it out pretty well. I'm not going to recommend it though.
Just my 2 cents about this topic. A member of my family works for Mobil in the lubes division and he says I should only change my oil every 10,000-15,000 miles.
I heard of that and don't recommend it. The problem is the filtering system. Standard filters will just get clogged with that many miles on the oil. The synthetic is clean, but you can't help the contaminates in the gas and air that gets into the motor. Amsoil sells a special 2 filter system that uses an aux. filter to trap most of the contaminates and then a regular (Amsoil) filter to get the rest. I've heard of people running 25K mile intervals no problem with this setup. I certainly wouldn't try it with Mobil 1 and a Fram filter though.

You know.. That's what sort of bugs me about Mobil 1. I think it's a good product, but some of the things that they do or don't do are irresponsible. If you use synthetic and dump your oil every 3K miles, that's just pissing money away. OTOH, if you run 15k miles with a store bought Fram filter, you're going to be asking for trouble. Why doesn't Mobil 1 sell a upgraded filter? Also, why doesn't Mobil 1 offer a flush for when you want to convert your car that has been running crude oil to synthetic oil? In addition to being helpful, these things are also money makers, so I can't figure out why Mobil 1 doesn't offer anything like this.

Anyway..

Sal
 

astrochimp

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Oh, I remember hearing that MOBIL 1 changed their formula and it pissed alot of people off. Can't remember the details of the
change though.
 

Devistater

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Thanks to the originator of this thread. We've been paying like $50 for synthetic at the local oil change place.
Originally posted by: astrochimp
Originally posted by: anazoal
Genuine question: the only tangible benefit of using synthetic oil is longer oil change intervals -- if you stick to the scheduled oil changes, is regular oil just as good?
OK, you ASKED for it. You will now be all knowing when it comes to oil and filters.
ENGINE OIL BIBLE
Thanks! I've been wanting something with lots of info like that. I want to educate myself on the issue. I'm a detail person, the more the better :)
Originally posted by: astrochimp
Originally posted by: cruxader
I'll only work with bosch, mobil1, or STP oil filters. Everything else is crap. .
Don't forget about PURE ONE and WIX filters...which are excellent.
The test and tear down of oil filters IS on the web.
Their Major conclusion was NOT to buy FRAM filters
Do you know where I can find the test/tear down on the web offhand? I'm interested in seeing the info. Thanks.
 

thenew3

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my 1999 BMW 328i came from the factory with synthetic oil. the MFG requires synthetic oil or warranty is void. No brake in necessary on the engine either.

Oil change interval is 15k to 18k miles as recommended by the manufacturer and indicated by the on board computer.

So far I've followed the 15k to 18k OBC interval for oil changes. I've got 131k miles (yes one hundred thirty one thousand) on it and it still runs like new. Doesn't burn any oil between oil changes.

I've sent the used oil with 18k miles on it in to several oil analysis labs, all the reports say the oil is suitable for continued use.

BTW I change the oil myself. 7 quarts of Mobil 1 5W-30 @ $3.50/qt, 1 BMW OEM (MANN) filter @ $7.50. and 1/2 hour of my time every 18k miles.

the car isn't babied, it spends a lot of time reving at red line and has been in a few track/race events.

I think the 3k mile interval is all marketing.

Mercedes recommends oil change at up to 25k mile interval as indicated by the on board computer. (they also use synthetic fresh from the factory)
Audi recommends oil changes every 10k miles using regular dino juice!

my previous Chevy pickup had its oil changed every 7.5k miles with regular dino juice. It has 180k miles on it now and is still running strong for the current owner. No engine problems ever! and it was used to tow many trailers/boats.

My point? Change your oil as often as you feel safe psychologically. Use whatever oil you feel like. but if you follow the manufacturer recommended intervals, you will have a engine that will probably out live the rest of the car.
No need to change more often then necessary.

Mobil 1 did a test in the mid 90's. They ran a BMW 325i to 1 million miles. Changing the oil every 10k miles per BMW's recommendations back then. They tore apart the engine after 1 million miles, most of the parts were still within factory tolerence for a NEW part!


 

Mallow

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I do the walmart $15 job. Pensoil & Filter + 5-Point Check up and Lube. Down with $50 oil changes.
 

Tommyboy8

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God, there are some morons on this board.

Your dealer oil change for $20 doesn't have synthetic oil in there. Jesus, comparing regular oil changes with ones with synthetic.

 

sixt7gt350

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For those worried about Wally World screwing up an oil change, you're right.
You DO have to watch them.
My friend had her engine destroyed when the tech forgot to tighten the drain plug.
A few miles down the road, she had no oil in her engine.
It siezed up and Wal-Mart denied any wrongdoing.
"How do you know we're responsible for your missing drain plug?"
"Gee, I don't know, how 'bout the fact that you were the only ones to touch it in the last three thousand miles?!?!?!"
She was not in a financial position to hire a lawyer or replace her engine.

I will buy my oil at Wally World, but I don't trust my babies to them.
 

WarSong

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Originally posted by: sixt7gt350
For those worried about Wally World screwing up an oil change, you're right.
You DO have to watch them.
My friend had her engine destroyed when the tech forgot to tighten the drain plug.
A few miles down the road, she had no oil in her engine.
It siezed up and Wal-Mart denied any wrongdoing.
"How do you know we're responsible for your missing drain plug?"
"Gee, I don't know, how 'bout the fact that you were the only ones to touch it in the last three thousand miles?!?!?!"
She was not in a financial position to hire a lawyer or replace her engine.

I will buy my oil at Wally World, but I don't trust my babies to them.

Her car doesn't have a light notifying you when you have a low amount of oil?
 

Analog

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Don't need Mobil 1, just change your oil and filter regularly. My truck has over 250K, no overhauls!
 

Netma

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Here's my 2 cents worth. I'm a firm believer in Mobil 1. Been using it for many years. As to the history of synthetic oil, I believe it was developed by Standard Oil Company during World War II. Some people say it was because we were short on oil, which we were, however the main reason it was developed was because the engines on the big bombers were turbo charged and the petroleum oils would not stand up to the heat of the turbo charger shaft and would "coke" and fail. Since synthetic oil doesn't have this problem due to it's vastly superior ability to withstand high temperatures, it solved the problem. After the war, the technology lay dormant for a few years until Mobil 1 appeared. Mobil was part of the Standard Oil Conglomerate at one time.

There used to be and maybe there still is a test called the Caterpillar 4 Ball test used to test oils. Also there is a matter of film strength, which is how much pressure in psi it takes to break the film strength of the oil when it is between two surfaces. Mobil 1 outperformed all lubricants in these tests and dinosaur oil manufacturers were constantly trying to match the performance, but never could. How do I know all this, I used to be in the heavy construction business, and owned a lot of heavy equipment as well as a number of tractor trailers. Oil salesmen were constantly promoting their wares. We used Delvac 1130 for over 15 years with great results. Teardowns after 10,000 hours on big diesel engines showed far less wear than seasoned mechanics were accustomed to seeing.

Now I only use Mobil 1 in my autos and beloved Harley.

I also have been told that the reason you get oil leaks when you change to a synthetic is because a synthetic can pass thru a smaller opening than dinosaur oil.
 

smu2000

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Originally posted by: wshtb
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My local walmart always has something like $17 for a 15 point service. Or maybe not including the cleaning part, but I get windshield cleaned for free whenever I use Raceway Gas station.

Yes it is an everyday deal. Remember this is SYNTHETIC OIL service not regular 10w50 oil service.

smu2k

 

smu2000

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Originally posted by: dman6666
Tip: Walmart didn't sell synth filters (maybe they do now?), so, if you prefer your own brand you can bring it w/ you and they'll credit you back the cost of their filter and use yours.

dman6666 This is a great tip for everyone who complains about the filter that they use. Yes, I unfortunately got the FRAM oil filter, however, next time I will bring in my Honda Filter, so they take 1.99 off 30 bucks for the filter.

smu2k
 

TimeKeeper

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It is great deal, but.....hmmm........but, I don't see any different in performance nor better fuel efficientcy.
My RR still average 12mpg. :(
 

smu2000

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Originally posted by: Logloglog
smu20001. waiting in line at walmart and

I am a patient guy with my MAXIM mags ;)

2. dealing with walmart employees and customers (ugh) vs. spending a few more dollars, probably break even timewise, but know that it was done right. Guess I'm just playing devil's advocate :)

I love shopping at Wally world. The workers in my area are Ghetto, but they dont cause any trouble. Maybe b/c I am ghetto too? :p

smu2k
 

Soybomb

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Here is the oil filter study, by Russ Knize, a turbo dodge guy like myself. :)

A few of my personal thoughts and beliefs:

  • breakings are no longer really necessary, 30 miles tops and its done. I still take it easy for a couple hundred miles and change the oil after those first few hundred

  • Old engines have bad seals, the dino-juice leaves deposits that fill in and slow those leaks. Synthetic is alot more efficient at keeping the engine clean, so its detergent cleans away that blockage allowing the engine to leak more. That said I've put synth in an engine with 85k and had no problems

  • Oil flushes are bad. You don't want to break big chunks of sludge and debris loose in your engine. Many engine have been killed because of this. The synthetic will do an excellent job at cleaning the gunk out of your engine at a more gradual pace, let it do its job.
 

Netma

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Originally posted by: Sesopedalian
You guys who think oil comes from "dead dinosaurs " really crack me up.

Don't you think the dinosaur remark is said "tongue in cheek"
 

gtd2000

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Well when I came over to the States last year from the UK, I noticed that most people were paranoid (in my opnion) about changing their oil ;)

One of the guys at work has a Mazda B-something pick-up truck - you know the one that is the same as the Ford Ranger.

I asked him how often he changes the oil - he said, "every 3000miles". I asked why did he change it so often? He was of the opinion that it needed to be changed that regularly "because these small engines work so hard".

I was confused to say the least, most cars in the UK have a recommended 10,000/12,000 mile interval - and most of those have far smaller engines than a Mazda truck.

I'm sure it IS a marketing hype here.

My Nissan 240SX SE has an oil change interval of 3,700miles - which is ridiculous.

I have been using the Walmart 15-point service for the last two oil changes - I normally change my oil every 6 months no matter what the mileage is. The last oil change was done sooner (say 4 months) and I checked the oil before handing it over to Walmart - strangely enough it was still almost golden coloured ;)

At $20 with all taxes etc thrown in an the washers filled up and carpets vacuumed etc - I wasn't complaining ;)

I'm going back to 6 months though - with mineral oil :D

As most have mentioned there is nothing wrong with changing your oil too soon - it just makes more sense to change it at a more reasonable interval according to your driving conditions :)
 

TwoMix

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Kmart has mobil 1 oil filters clearenaced to $2.50! Does any1 know where i can find the listing for mobil 1 filter part #s so i can find teh right 1? my target doesnt have the list for these.
 

Mysterie

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Don't trust Wal-Mart Oil change Dept. I nearly had an engine burned out by their sloppy work!. A few years back I had a Olds that I brought in for a change, they "forgot" to fill up the oil. We drove it out of the parking lot and the oil light came on, drove it back to them and they had the gall to say that it was fine. After ten minutes of complaints they popped it opened and dumped some oil in and the light went away. For our next oil change we decided to go to another place and they told us that whoever did our oil last did not put in all the oil that was required, we barely had enough in there to stay operational, luckly we got there a little earlier than 3,000 (due to paranoia about the Wal-Mart job). We'll never go back there again, can't trust them with our cars, especially my new car.

Okay so Synthetic oil is better for the car than regular. You don't need to flush the old stuff out for the new. You can stretch the oil changes out longer than with regular oil (5,000? 7,500? when 3,500 recommended for hard areas)? Any trustworthy place that does synthetic changes for a good price?
 

SDSupraTT

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One thing for all you long treking oil changers to remeber is that while you might get away with this on a normally asperated vehicle...dont try this on a turbocharged car. There are detergents in oil that will and do breakdown after 3000 miles. Also a good filter in a turbocharged car is highly recommended as the shafts in a turbocharger can spin at 200,000 rpm!! and their primary means of cooling is your oil! hence the reason that synthetic in a turbocharged car is a good thing.

And if anyone knows where to get some mobil1 oil filters for less than $10 let us know : )