Mob Pirates?

[Bolvangar]

RIAA is now claiming that the entire counterfeit CD production business in the eastern half of the United States "is now dominated by organized criminal syndicates intent on monopolizing the illicit market."

Whats next?

http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,68490,00.html?tw=rss.TOP

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: Bolvangar
RIAA is now claiming that the entire counterfeit CD production business in the eastern half of the United States "is now dominated by organized criminal syndicates intent on monopolizing the illicit market."

Whats next?

http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,68490,00.html?tw=rss.TOP

Someone needs to take of the you-know-what headdress.

 

[Cerb]

How big is the counterfeit CD business in the U.S., anyway? How do they make enough money to justify making copies, when they could just use their money to start a customer-centric new/used media chain?

They sure can't beat Amazon.com and sellers through it.

You know what'd be funny, too? If counterfeit BMG and EMI discs were CDDA. That'd be awesome.

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: Cerb
How big is the counterfeit CD business in the U.S., anyway? How do they make enough money to justify making copies, when they could just use their money to start a customer-centric new/used media chain?

They sure can't beat Amazon.com and sellers through it.

You know what'd be funny, too? If counterfeit BMG and EMI discs were CDDA. That'd be awesome.

well, if i go by the dudes selling outside the train station, im going to say that amazon.com half.com etc cant compete with those prices and, probably more importantly, the release dates.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: PatboyX

Originally posted by: Cerb
How big is the counterfeit CD business in the U.S., anyway? How do they make enough money to justify making copies, when they could just use their money to start a customer-centric new/used media chain?

They sure can't beat Amazon.com and sellers through it.

You know what'd be funny, too? If counterfeit BMG and EMI discs were CDDA. That'd be awesome.

well, if i go by the dudes selling outside the train station, im going to say that amazon.com half.com etc cant compete with those prices and, probably more importantly, the release dates.

I have never, ever, seen anyone selling counterfeit games in denmark. I do however charge people for the cd's, i do the burning for free.

 

[Cerb]

Originally posted by: PatboyX

Originally posted by: Cerb
How big is the counterfeit CD business in the U.S., anyway? How do they make enough money to justify making copies, when they could just use their money to start a customer-centric new/used media chain?

They sure can't beat Amazon.com and sellers through it.

You know what'd be funny, too? If counterfeit BMG and EMI discs were CDDA. That'd be awesome.

well, if i go by the dudes selling outside the train station, im going to say that amazon.com half.com etc cant compete with those prices and, probably more importantly, the release dates.

Looks like there's a niche to fill, then! Here's an idea for the record companies: do your jobs.

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: PatboyX

Originally posted by: Cerb
How big is the counterfeit CD business in the U.S., anyway? How do they make enough money to justify making copies, when they could just use their money to start a customer-centric new/used media chain?

They sure can't beat Amazon.com and sellers through it.

You know what'd be funny, too? If counterfeit BMG and EMI discs were CDDA. That'd be awesome.

well, if i go by the dudes selling outside the train station, im going to say that amazon.com half.com etc cant compete with those prices and, probably more importantly, the release dates.

I have never, ever, seen anyone selling counterfeit games in denmark. I do however charge people for the cd's, i do the burning for free.

i dont see a whole lot of games being sold on the street. mostly movies and cds. i see a lot of "backups" being sold on ebay and the like. however, i think the games dont get as much of a pirate selling market because the demo involved, on the whole, probably have the means and knowledge to get it on their own for free.
im not sure what you are saying about making copies...

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: Bolvangar
RIAA is now claiming that the entire counterfeit CD production business in the eastern half of the United States "is now dominated by organized criminal syndicates intent on monopolizing the illicit market."

Whats next?

http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,68490,00.html?tw=rss.TOP

Oh the irony!

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Bolvangar
RIAA is now claiming that the entire counterfeit CD production business in the eastern half of the United States "is now dominated by organized criminal syndicates intent on monopolizing the illicit market."

Whats next?

http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,68490,00.html?tw=rss.TOP

Oh the irony!

Who better to know that the mob is controlling the illicit market than the mob that controls the legal market.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Originally posted by: Bolvangar
RIAA is now claiming that the entire counterfeit CD production business in the eastern half of the United States "is now dominated by organized criminal syndicates intent on monopolizing the illicit market."

Whats next?

http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,68490,00.html?tw=rss.TOP

Wait a darn minute! You mean to tell me that there is a large enough market for cheap CDs to cause organized criminal syndicates to try to monopolize the illicit market? I thought P2P programs were killing all CD sells. Why would someone buy a cheap CD from Vinny the Hand, when he can download it off of Morphous? How could they make money?Oh, RIAA, have you been fibbing to us?

 

[dmcowen674]

Recording Industry vs The People

 

[Gigantopithecus]

""The markup for a kilo of heroin is 200 percent," Hoffman says. "The markup for pirated CDs and DVDs is 800 percent.""

Assuming the pirates pay more for the CDrs than large rec. companies do for commercial CDs, and the pirates charge less than do the large companies, does that mean the markup on a commercial CD is >800 percent?

 

[Screech]

I wonder what the markup for legal CD's is....

edit, you shouldn't have changed what you said, Gigantopithecus, it really is time to switch businesses

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Bolvangar
RIAA is now claiming that the entire counterfeit CD production business in the eastern half of the United States "is now dominated by organized criminal syndicates intent on monopolizing the illicit market."

Whats next?

http://www.wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,68490,00.html?tw=rss.TOP

They can't have it both ways. The mob can't run both!

 

[ntdz]

I HATE the RIAA.

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: Bolvangar
RIAA is now claiming that the entire counterfeit CD production business in the eastern half of the United States "is now dominated by organized criminal syndicates intent on monopolizing the illicit market."

That's pretty much true by definition isn't it ? I.e. the act of setting up production of counterfeit CDs makes you an organized criminal syndicate unless you do it all by yourself.

They aren't talking about people copying movies onto cd-rs, but groups of people who are making fakes and passing them off as legitimate.

Personal piracy may, or may not, directly impact sales to a significant extent, but counterfeits definetely do - someone who bought a fake copy of spiderman 2 for full price obviously had no objection to buying a real one, so that is one amount of money that the RIAA can very legitimately complain was stolen from them by almost anyone's standards.

 

[0roo0roo]

yea but where are people supposedly buying these "fake" cds? most people get their stuff from amazon or tower or big chains like walmart/target etc.

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
yea but where are people supposedly buying these "fake" cds? most people get their stuff from amazon or tower or big chains like walmart/target etc.

well, it depends where you live. if you are in a rural area its probably not much of an option unless you are buying through ebay or half.com (and then it may not be on purpose)
however, people in suburban areas have slightly more exposure (although may not be worth the effort to travel to nearest city for the products) but those who live in a city have not only the sort of train station street vendors i mention above who hang out in jersey city but a lot of stores in major cities tend to sell bootlegs.
i know in nyc its been a big deal about the whole mix tape thing. its not really the same as straight up piracy because a lot of the tracks are remixed or redone by the artists and the majority of tracks are by unsigned people but those on it who have signed a contract with a recording label usually have no competes and thats how the RIAA has been able to close down a number of stores in (i think) brooklyn.

cliffs:
if you live in a city, you are probably closer to a place where you can get it cheaper than a target and faster than amazon. this place is probably selling bootlegs.