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CKent

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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
You "WoW - raid or quit" people amuse me. I've been 60 for over a year now, and I've been to MC like 3 times, and ZG maybe a dozen or so. One trip to Onyxia and two to AQ20. That's it. My highest alt is level 18. I peaked at Rank 10 in PvP.

Maybe I'm just easily amused (I do have over 10K post here, after all,) but WoW has tons of stuff to offer for people who only play 2-3 hours per night a few times per week.

My point stands about EQ before the planes of power expansion. I should feel glad to have experienced such an immersive and variable experience before big business killed the genre, but a part of me wishes I didn't know what I was missing. Maybe that's all there is to it.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: Tweak155
On another note, going to WoW after playing FFXI is like going from college to pre-school. WoW with its simplistic gameplay and child-like graphics is a joke. FFXI takes skill which made me like it more.

I wouldn't say that FFXI takes skill, so much as a lifelong dedication to tedious and boring gameplay. :p Everyone from my WoW guild came from the same FF shard, they agree it's much more simplistic, but that it also 10x as much fun.

Coincidence? I like my games fun and entertaining, not mind-numbingly chore-like and rediculously difficult.

 

mattpegher

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I notice no one mentioned dungeons and dragons online, at least it looked adult, but I never actually played it.
 

cKGunslinger

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Nov 29, 1999
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Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
You "WoW - raid or quit" people amuse me. I've been 60 for over a year now, and I've been to MC like 3 times, and ZG maybe a dozen or so. One trip to Onyxia and two to AQ20. That's it. My highest alt is level 18. I peaked at Rank 10 in PvP.

Maybe I'm just easily amused (I do have over 10K post here, after all,) but WoW has tons of stuff to offer for people who only play 2-3 hours per night a few times per week.

My point stands about EQ before the planes of power expansion. I should feel glad to have experienced such an immersive and variable experience before big business killed the genre, but a part of me wishes I didn't know what I was missing. Maybe that's all there is to it.

I can agree with that. While I never played EQ, all my friends that did are somehow "proud" that they were part of a pure MMORPG in its infancy, before its commercial value took hold and sacrificed some of its finer elements for a broader appeal.

There's just not really a viable market for 200K-subscriber MMORPGs now, however. Not now that Lineage and WoW soared past the 2 million mark.
 

Tweak155

Lifer
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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Tweak155
On another note, going to WoW after playing FFXI is like going from college to pre-school. WoW with its simplistic gameplay and child-like graphics is a joke. FFXI takes skill which made me like it more.

I wouldn't say that FFXI takes skill, so much as a lifelong dedication to tedious and boring gameplay. :p Everyone from my WoW guild came from the same FF shard, they agree it's much more simplistic, but that it also 10x as much fun.

Coincidence? I like my games fun and entertaining, not mind-numbingly chore-like and rediculously difficult.


I guess it depends what you expect to get out of the game. A good player can stand out more in the FFXI scenario, although in any MMORPG all the best equipment is the same among characters. However, the simplistic side means even the stupid annoying people make it through too. I guess my friend noticed the same things I did.

EDIT: I wouldn't say the gameplay is stupid and boring. It is repetitious in a different way. Although I did hate the travel system, but the benefit was that the higher your character got, the better the travel got, although it could definately be faster.
 

ThaGrandCow

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Dec 27, 2001
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Originally posted by: archiloco
never ever think about anything with SOE (sony online entertainment) it's like they are chipping away at your soul....after 2 years of SWG (i know i know) i feel they taken away some very good years of my life just to mess them up :( stupid CU1, cu2, friggin new game enhancements my butt.

31.8 professions ground out the night of the jedi revamp... I remember busting my ass all night to try and finish up that last profession and unlock before the servers came down. 80% of the way through and they shut down the servers.

Over the next week, once the servers uncrapped themselves, I found out that I would need another month of grinding to even get a jedi, and from there it would be like 6 months before he was any more powerful than a combo of skills you could level up in less than a week.

I cancelled and haven't looked back.
 

Turnpike

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For a first time MMORPGer, WoW is great. You'll spend weeks (of online gameplay) hitting level 60 and having a good time. If you decide to raid, pvp, etc then great. If not you can start a new character and go through a completely different experience playing as horde or alliance with a new type of character. If that gets old you can quit at level 30 and still be satisfied with the $100 you spent for 6 months of playing. It's very noob friendly game mechanic wise.

I also recommend City of Heroes or City of Villans. Straight up fun game. Doesn't have the depth of WoW, but very very fun none the less.
 

CKent

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Aug 17, 2005
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Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
You "WoW - raid or quit" people amuse me. I've been 60 for over a year now, and I've been to MC like 3 times, and ZG maybe a dozen or so. One trip to Onyxia and two to AQ20. That's it. My highest alt is level 18. I peaked at Rank 10 in PvP.

Maybe I'm just easily amused (I do have over 10K post here, after all,) but WoW has tons of stuff to offer for people who only play 2-3 hours per night a few times per week.

My point stands about EQ before the planes of power expansion. I should feel glad to have experienced such an immersive and variable experience before big business killed the genre, but a part of me wishes I didn't know what I was missing. Maybe that's all there is to it.

I can agree with that. While I never played EQ, all my friends that did are somehow "proud" that they were part of a pure MMORPG in its infancy, before its commercial value took hold and sacrificed some of its finer elements for a broader appeal.

There's just not really a viable market for 200K-subscriber MMORPGs now, however. Not now that Lineage and WoW soared past the 2 million mark.

Sure there is, look at EVE. 25,000 subscriptions but it's a commercial success for its scale. The premise just isn't for me though; don't like sci-fi, prefer fantasy... and open PvP = no thanks.
 

randay

Lifer
May 30, 2006
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Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: CKent
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
You "WoW - raid or quit" people amuse me. I've been 60 for over a year now, and I've been to MC like 3 times, and ZG maybe a dozen or so. One trip to Onyxia and two to AQ20. That's it. My highest alt is level 18. I peaked at Rank 10 in PvP.

Maybe I'm just easily amused (I do have over 10K post here, after all,) but WoW has tons of stuff to offer for people who only play 2-3 hours per night a few times per week.

My point stands about EQ before the planes of power expansion. I should feel glad to have experienced such an immersive and variable experience before big business killed the genre, but a part of me wishes I didn't know what I was missing. Maybe that's all there is to it.

I can agree with that. While I never played EQ, all my friends that did are somehow "proud" that they were part of a pure MMORPG in its infancy, before its commercial value took hold and sacrificed some of its finer elements for a broader appeal.

There's just not really a viable market for 200K-subscriber MMORPGs now, however. Not now that Lineage and WoW soared past the 2 million mark.

Sure there is, look at EVE. 25,000 subscriptions but it's a commercial success for its scale. The premise just isn't for me though; don't like sci-fi, prefer fantasy... and open PvP = no thanks.

Thats incorrect, its actually a lot more subscriptions then that, the 25,000 number you are getting is from peak concurrent users, meaning that there were 25,000 players connected at the same time to the same game world. There is no sharding in EVE everyone is in the same world. However the number just broke 30,000 a little while ago. EVE is a huge success considering the vastly different gameplay and genre.