MLB:NY Mets: The Official Thread, 2007 HISTORIC meltdown COMPLETE.

[psteng19]

Originally posted by: isasir
Yay, Mets win! I didn't see the game, so, can someone tell me how serious is the achilles issue with FLoyd? I see he was taken out early in the game, but is he pretty much done for this series?

He shouldn't have been out there in the first place. He looked very immobile.
His first trip around the base on a foul ball, he tweaked it again and he wasn't even running that hard.

And fortunately he came out when he did because a couple of innings later, Chavez who replaced him made a great diving catch that a healthy Floyd wouldn't even had a chance at.

He should've just sat this whole series out and came back as DH in the WS.

 

[Gamingphreek]

He should've just sat this whole series out and came back as DH in the WS.

A little cocky are we? You still have another 3 games to go buddy assuming the Cardinals don't win at all.

-Kevin

 

[Murpheeee]

Great start by the Mets.

Great pitching, great defense and finally Beltran has made a big post-season contribution.

Now lets get some hits in game 2 and help Maine out.

 

[raystorm]

A total mismatch tonight with Maine vs Carpenter and of course this game favors the Cards because of the matchup. I don't remember if the Mets faced Carpenter this season but if the Mets could actually hit him the pressure will be lessened for Maine.

Go Maine!

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: raystorm
A total mismatch tonight with Maine vs Carpenter and of course this game favors the Cards because of the matchup. I don't remember if the Mets faced Carpenter this season but if the Mets could actually hit him the pressure will be lessened for Maine.

Go Maine!

You guys have. I believe last time you faced him was the time Pujols hit a 2 and 3 run HR off of him, but then Beltran won it against Izzy.

-Kevin

 

[raystorm]

If it matters Carpenter is 1-2 with a 4.24 ERA in three career starts against the Mets.

Maine gives up lots of homers and Pujols murdered the kid last time out (he hit a 3 run homer and a grand slam off Maine if I remember correctly). I think Maine needs a work out a different approach against Albert no?? Then again most pitchers do as Pujols is just tremendous.

 

[Murpheeee]

Interesting to read Pujol's comments after his team were DOMINATED by Glavine in Game 1.

After he and his St. Louis Cardinals were dominated by Tom Glavine in Game 1 of the National League Championship Series on Thursday, Pujols proceeded to rip the veteran left-hander's performance.

"He wasn't good. He wasn't good at all," Pujols said of Glavine, who allowed four hits over seven scoreless innings to nail down the victory. "I think we hit the ball hard, we didn't get some breaks.

"I say he wasn't good at all. We just didn't get some opportunities and that's it...(Glavine did the) same thing that he always does. Throw a changeup, fastball and that was it. I just think we should've done a better job than we did."

GIRUY!

 

[Gamingphreek]

Hmm where is that from. That is very odd of Pujols. Normally he only speaks praise of others.

-Kevin

 

[Murpheeee]

here's where it was written:

LINK

 

[Gamingphreek]

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/scorecard/mlbnews.asp?articleID=176833

Hmm very interesting that NO ONE else has this. Also interesting that this guy seems to have a particular grudge against Pujols for some reason. Obviously I have no basis for my argument other than that is very uncommon for him, but it definitely looks strange.

Also looking at the game again (I love my DVR)... I can sort of see what Pujols means, but he shouldn't have done that (If indeed he did). I think he was more frustated that the strike zone was the size of the grand canyon, and that the Cards really couldn't catch any breaks. They did hit Glavine pretty well (Dont get me wrong he was dominant) but the Mets had a highlight reel of plays on their defense.

This could get ugly real quick if those comments are true and they keep up. Pujols was the one player i could always look at that would never do something like that, and I have to admit, if true, im a little concerned.

-Kevin

 

[Murpheeee]

Yeah I can understand why he would be frustrated, he is expected to carry his team offensively.

But at least the ump was consistent, the strike zone was huge for both teams, even made Weaver look good

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Murpheeee
Yeah I can understand why he would be frustrated, he is expected to carry his team offensively.

But at least the ump was consistent, the strike zone was huge for both teams, even made Weaver look good

While it was generally huge, i think it wiggled a lot (For both teams) and it always seemed to happen at inopportune times lol.

-Kevin

 

[raystorm]

Delgado with a huge 3 run bomb off of Carpenter in the first inning.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/scorecard/mlbnews.asp?articleID=176833

Hmm very interesting that NO ONE else has this. Also interesting that this guy seems to have a particular grudge against Pujols for some reason. Obviously I have no basis for my argument other than that is very uncommon for him, but it definitely looks strange.

Also looking at the game again (I love my DVR)... I can sort of see what Pujols means, but he shouldn't have done that (If indeed he did). I think he was more frustated that the strike zone was the size of the grand canyon, and that the Cards really couldn't catch any breaks. They did hit Glavine pretty well (Dont get me wrong he was dominant) but the Mets had a highlight reel of plays on their defense.

This could get ugly real quick if those comments are true and they keep up. Pujols was the one player i could always look at that would never do something like that, and I have to admit, if true, im a little concerned.

-Kevin

the writer was definitely right about one thing, if ARod had said the things Pujols is being attributed with, Arod would have been DESTROYED by everyone. why Pujols gets away with it is beyond me, it's not like he has won anymore world series than say Barry Bonds or ARod.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Mets Fans

Is LoDuca the best off season acquisition by the mets?

he has been a HUGE part of this team.

 

[raystorm]

A disasterous loss for the Mets. They had the lead in the 7th and Carpenter was hardly any good and Maine was horrid. Mota threw a FAT meatball to Scott Spiezio to give up the lead. The Mets had ample opportunities to take the lead but couldn't capitalize. Then Wagner comes in the 9th and just implodes horribly and totally chokes the game.

The pen was used up big time and Trachsel MUST pitch well or the Mets are at a huge disadvantage with Oliver Perez pitching the 4th game and Glavine pitching on short rest.

Huge win for the Cards and it could turn the series in their favor unless Trash can come up big tomorrow night.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Double post

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/scorecard/mlbnews.asp?articleID=176833

Hmm very interesting that NO ONE else has this. Also interesting that this guy seems to have a particular grudge against Pujols for some reason. Obviously I have no basis for my argument other than that is very uncommon for him, but it definitely looks strange.

Also looking at the game again (I love my DVR)... I can sort of see what Pujols means, but he shouldn't have done that (If indeed he did). I think he was more frustated that the strike zone was the size of the grand canyon, and that the Cards really couldn't catch any breaks. They did hit Glavine pretty well (Dont get me wrong he was dominant) but the Mets had a highlight reel of plays on their defense.

This could get ugly real quick if those comments are true and they keep up. Pujols was the one player i could always look at that would never do something like that, and I have to admit, if true, im a little concerned.

-Kevin

the writer was definitely right about one thing, if ARod had said the things Pujols is being attributed with, Arod would have been DESTROYED by everyone. why Pujols gets away with it is beyond me, it's not like he has won anymore world series than say Barry Bonds or ARod.

Very true. Pujols is my idol and is such a classy player, as true as all that is, i was very disappointed that he said that.

And while Glavine did throw very well, as they said on Sportscenter his comments did have some merit (Grand Canyon size strike zone, Cards had a LOT of bad luck). But i think the same can be said about Jeff Weaver then.

That was a great, albeit slightly sloppy, baseball game. That was critical for the Cards and could be devastating for you guys with the next 2 pitchers you have up. It would not surprise me if this comes down to the final game.

Good game for both teams, I cant wait until tomorrow

-Kevin

 

[raystorm]

Trachsel was AWFUL in the first inning. He gives up 2 runs to Speizio (there goes that guy again!) and was lucky he didn't give up more. Terrible start to the game for the Mets.

What can ya do really?? No Pedro for most of the year and El Duque got hurt. Maine, Trash and Perez are pitching the biggest games of the season so the Mets gotta deal with it and just do their best to bash all the opposing pitchers.

Omar has quite a lot of work to do in the offseason to fix up that rotation.

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: raystorm
Trachsel was AWFUL in the first inning. He gives up 2 runs to Speizio (there goes that guy again!) and was lucky he didn't give up more. Terrible start to the game for the Mets.

What can ya do really?? No Pedro for most of the year and El Duque got hurt. Maine, Trash and Perez are pitching the biggest games of the season so the Mets gotta deal with it and just do their best to bash all the opposing pitchers.

Omar has quite a lot of work to do in the offseason to fix up that rotation.

The season is over already?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: raystorm
Trachsel was AWFUL in the first inning. He gives up 2 runs to Speizio (there goes that guy again!) and was lucky he didn't give up more. Terrible start to the game for the Mets.

What can ya do really?? No Pedro for most of the year and El Duque got hurt. Maine, Trash and Perez are pitching the biggest games of the season so the Mets gotta deal with it and just do their best to bash all the opposing pitchers.

Omar has quite a lot of work to do in the offseason to fix up that rotation.

The season is over already?

I think he is more saying that when the offseason comes, whether that be sooner or later .

-Kevin

 

[Hacp]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: raystorm
Trachsel was AWFUL in the first inning. He gives up 2 runs to Speizio (there goes that guy again!) and was lucky he didn't give up more. Terrible start to the game for the Mets.

What can ya do really?? No Pedro for most of the year and El Duque got hurt. Maine, Trash and Perez are pitching the biggest games of the season so the Mets gotta deal with it and just do their best to bash all the opposing pitchers.

Omar has quite a lot of work to do in the offseason to fix up that rotation.

The season is over already?

I think he is more saying that when the offseason comes, whether that be sooner or later .

-Kevin

Cardinals' offseason starts next week.

 

[raystorm]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: raystorm
Trachsel was AWFUL in the first inning. He gives up 2 runs to Speizio (there goes that guy again!) and was lucky he didn't give up more. Terrible start to the game for the Mets.

What can ya do really?? No Pedro for most of the year and El Duque got hurt. Maine, Trash and Perez are pitching the biggest games of the season so the Mets gotta deal with it and just do their best to bash all the opposing pitchers.

Omar has quite a lot of work to do in the offseason to fix up that rotation.

The season is over already?

I think he is more saying that when the offseason comes, whether that be sooner or later .

-Kevin

I'm saying that with Pedro out for a LONG time (if not forever), El Duque may not come back next season, Trachsel is most likely gone that Omar has some work to do. I didn't say a damn thing about the who is winning the series..etc. The Mets were dealt a bad hand with El Duque going down before game 1 of the NLDS. Who expected John Maine and Oliver Perez to start games in the postseason?? NOBODY. It is what it is.

Jeff Suppan hits a homer then Eckstein hits a ball right back at Trachsel's leg. Wonderful start to the game.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Hacp

Originally posted by: raystorm
Trachsel was AWFUL in the first inning. He gives up 2 runs to Speizio (there goes that guy again!) and was lucky he didn't give up more. Terrible start to the game for the Mets.

What can ya do really?? No Pedro for most of the year and El Duque got hurt. Maine, Trash and Perez are pitching the biggest games of the season so the Mets gotta deal with it and just do their best to bash all the opposing pitchers.

Omar has quite a lot of work to do in the offseason to fix up that rotation.

The season is over already?

I think he is more saying that when the offseason comes, whether that be sooner or later .

-Kevin

Cardinals' offseason starts next week.

Umm ok...whats with the trash talk. At least i put a smiley!! Seriously, this is anyones series, these are both very good clubs (And at the beginning I even said I thought the mets were better) but due to circumstances beyond you guys control (mostly injuries), it looks like St. Louis has the upperhand now.

-Kevin

 

[raystorm]

That pile of Trash couldn't even pitch 2 innings. He is "hurt". Whatever. Get that bum outta the team. Darren Oliver will have to take one for the team especially if the offense doesn't hit Suppan.