Mitt Romney

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I heard him speak and was amazed. He had some very good ideas for America's "power" through changes in defense spending, the economy, global relations, etc. I like how he wants to make changes to education. America is falling behind compared to foreign nations.

I think he will be a good Republican candidate especially because if elected he will be able to get things done. He was the governor of Mass., where Republicans make up about 12-18% of the houses, and was still able to make compromises and reforms.

What do other people think about him? I'm pretty conservative, but I'm fine with abortion and gay marriage. I'll probably be voting for him.
 

XMan

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Fred Thompson is a better candidate. The question is whether or not he'll run.

None of the current crop of Republican candidates get me interested, at all.
 

PottedMeat

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He an McCain should run together, they dont really stand for anything IMO. Over the list of Reps I'd vote for Giuliani over any of them.
 

nageov3t

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he's too much of a slave to the polls and too willing to pick up whichever position will appeal to the base, not to mention the blatant pandering he's been doing lately.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: loki8481
he's too much of a slave to the polls and too willing to pick up whichever position will appeal to the base, not to mention the blatant pandering he's been doing lately.

Bill CLinton? errr... worked for him :)

Mormon's are even a cult to mainstream Christians. So no dice.

If he was a Dem maybe (Kerry is surely no Catholic) they'd tolerate it. Naw Mormons are too pushy they wouldn't tolerate pushy neovo-pseudo Christians.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
The Base won't allow a Mormon to get the nomination.
Don't count on it.
He leads in money raising. The biggest thing against him is that very few people actually knows where he stands.

Of course stupid things like the hunting flap do not help him. Leave the flip-flop and exaggerations to the Democrats please.
 

ProfJohn

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Mitt talks like a conservative. Governs like a conservative. Has a family life like a conservative.

If he can get that message out to the people and figure out a way to diminish a few of his liberal leaning ideas then I think he has a good chance.

Also, for all the talk about Rudy?s liberal social views he ran the city as a conservative. To many of us that is what will make the difference.
 

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The biggest reason why he is leading in fund raising is a large number of donations from.. uhmmm... Utah. Romney has zero chance... zero. He's way too transparent a panderer, and he's a Mormon. Those are two BIG strikes against him. He is in dead last of the major republican candidates... and at least 15 points behind giuliani. In fact, he's only barely cracked 10% support.

 

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The Republicans are pretty much screwed so far, we have some pretty lame candidates. Most of the Republican candidates wont get my vote because they are weak in thier support of the 2nd amendment.

I'm mostly Libertarian who usually votes for Republicans, but I think I'll be voting for Bill Richardson in the primaries. I've gnot no problems with progun democrats who also are good on some other issues I support like states rights, and medical marijuana.
 

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Originally posted by: loki8481
he's too much of a slave to the polls and too willing to pick up whichever position will appeal to the base, not to mention the blatant pandering he's been doing lately.

QFT. If people thought Kerry was a flip-flopper, Romney will really get the eyes popping when its revealed how often he's changed positions for political convenience. The guy has less spine than most politicians...
 

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I've been a lifelong golfer because I played putt-putt when I was 9 years old and I rode in a golf cart a couple of times.
 

Moonbeam

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Don't know him, don't know anything about him, but I have seen him and he gives me the creeps.
 

BDawg

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I think it's ironic that the only major republican candidate with only one wife is the mormon.

Family values my ass.
 

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His stances are mostly good for me, yet I do not care that he supports the assault weapon ban and Brady Bill. I also do not care for the fact he supports wire tapping legal immigrants to this country

No discussion of reforming our horrid tax system or scaling back the size of the Federal government.


Only way he would get my vote would be for Democrats to put someone up I just cannot stand, like Hillary.
 

EXman

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Originally posted by: BDawg
I think it's ironic that the only major republican candidate with only one wife is the mormon.

Family values my ass.

Have you been married?

Then you know that crap and women are loco! :confused:
 

imported_Shivetya

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Originally posted by: BDawg
I think it's ironic that the only major republican candidate with only one wife is the mormon.

Family values my ass.

if thats the worst of their failings then I don't see a problem.

then again I guess its hard to expect moonbats to do anything but attempt to use another person's values against them, which is quite cute in that the moonbats would never allow themselves to be held to such values they think others should be accountable to.
 
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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: BDawg
I think it's ironic that the only major republican candidate with only one wife is the mormon.

Family values my ass.

if thats the worst of their failings then I don't see a problem.

then again I guess its hard to expect moonbats to do anything but attempt to use another person's values against them, which is quite cute in that the moonbats would never allow themselves to be held to such values they think others should be accountable to.
QFT.
 

Lemon law

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Always count on non-Prof John to go straight to the the whopper of the century in political spin when he notes-----Of course stupid things like the hunting flap do not help him. Leave the flip-flop and exaggerations to the Democrats please.

As if flip flopping is a democratic monopoly and only applies to democrats.

When Mitt Romney is flip flop personified. With the hunting flap being but a minor example. The new Romney position is almost a 180 degree course change from his previous position as Governor of a liberal State---and Romney now has totally reinvented himself-----as the ultimate plastic candidate.
A man with no past---and probably a man with no future. If he were like fine wine that improved with age---and when it came time to discuss vintage---we would be talking days of the week like Tuesday, and as the campaign progresses we may soon be talking FFH---flip flops per hour.

Teddy Roosevelt used to gig his opponents by accusing them of having the backbone of a chocolate eclair----which would never work with Romney---who has no backbone at all.---a total invertibrate like silly putty or a slime mold. Sooner or later we will find something to like in Romney---and as soon as the hazy image comes up he will become something else.
 

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Always count on non-Prof John to go straight to the the whopper of the century in political spin when he notes-----Of course stupid things like the hunting flap do not help him. Leave the flip-flop and exaggerations to the Democrats please.

As if flip flopping is a democratic monopoly and only applies to democrats.

Crap, its a bad day when I agree with Lemon Law :)

flip flopping is a monopoly of polticians.
 
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Always count on non-Prof John to go straight to the the whopper of the century in political spin when he notes-----Of course stupid things like the hunting flap do not help him. Leave the flip-flop and exaggerations to the Democrats please.

As if flip flopping is a democratic monopoly and only applies to democrats.

When Mitt Romney is flip flop personified. With the hunting flap being but a minor example. The new Romney position is almost a 180 degree course change from his previous position as Governor of a liberal State---and Romney now has totally reinvented himself-----as the ultimate plastic candidate.
A man with no past---and probably a man with no future. If he were like fine wine that improved with age---and when it came time to discuss vintage---we would be talking days of the week like Tuesday, and as the campaign progresses we may soon be talking FFH---flip flops per hour.

Teddy Roosevelt used to gig his opponents by accusing them of having the backbone of a chocolate eclair----which would never work with Romney---who has no backbone at all.---a total invertibrate like silly putty or a slime mold. Sooner or later we will find something to like in Romney---and as soon as the hazy image comes up he will become something else.
Are you saying that you would never vote for a flip flopper regardless of party? Or is this one of those Democrat flip flopping OK vs. Republican flip flopping not OK kind of things?

 

RightIsWrong

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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
Originally posted by: Lemon law
Always count on non-Prof John to go straight to the the whopper of the century in political spin when he notes-----Of course stupid things like the hunting flap do not help him. Leave the flip-flop and exaggerations to the Democrats please.

As if flip flopping is a democratic monopoly and only applies to democrats.

When Mitt Romney is flip flop personified. With the hunting flap being but a minor example. The new Romney position is almost a 180 degree course change from his previous position as Governor of a liberal State---and Romney now has totally reinvented himself-----as the ultimate plastic candidate.
A man with no past---and probably a man with no future. If he were like fine wine that improved with age---and when it came time to discuss vintage---we would be talking days of the week like Tuesday, and as the campaign progresses we may soon be talking FFH---flip flops per hour.

Teddy Roosevelt used to gig his opponents by accusing them of having the backbone of a chocolate eclair----which would never work with Romney---who has no backbone at all.---a total invertibrate like silly putty or a slime mold. Sooner or later we will find something to like in Romney---and as soon as the hazy image comes up he will become something else.
Are you saying that you would never vote for a flip flopper regardless of party? Or is this one of those Democrat flip flopping OK vs. Republican flip flopping not OK kind of things?

I hope that you are just being factitious. Obviously, his point was that, PJ's claim that the Dems are FFers while the Repubs stand strong on their beliefs is a joke and that Romney personifies that.
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: Shivetya
Originally posted by: BDawg
I think it's ironic that the only major republican candidate with only one wife is the mormon.

Family values my ass.

if thats the worst of their failings then I don't see a problem.

then again I guess its hard to expect moonbats to do anything but attempt to use another person's values against them, which is quite cute in that the moonbats would never allow themselves to be held to such values they think others should be accountable to.

I see it a problem when their party rails on about family values.

And yes, I am married. I have been for almost 8 years.
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
The Base won't allow a Mormon to get the nomination.
Don't count on it.
He leads in money raising. The biggest thing against him is that very few people actually knows where he stands.

Of course stupid things like the hunting flap do not help him. Leave the flip-flop and exaggerations to the Democrats please.

IIRC, Romney used to be a venture capitalist and he's plugged into all kinds of monied networks. McCain probably had twice as many donors.

As for where he stands. Are we talking about the 1994, 2000, or 2006 version of Mitt?

Between Mitt, Rudy, and Baghdad Cafe McCain . . . you've got enough flip flops to keep a sorority in kicks for the spring AND summer socials.