Mitt Romney just announced his exploratory committee.

[Anarchist420]

“President Obama’s policies have failed,” he says.

The fucking IRONY.

I want to ask Romney how he plans to do things differently from Obama, and then bitchslap him after he gives his answer.

How does Romney get away with saying "President Obama's policies have failed"? How could he say that???

 

[shiner]

I want some chocolate chip cookies and a nice glass of cold milk.

 

[Jaskalas]

Romney sounds eager to get in line to be the next failure.

 

[Anarchist420]

Romney's worse than Obama TBH.

 

[Red Dawn]

Romney's worse than Obama TBH.

And he's the best they have.

 

[jonks]

Are they exploring whether he has a personality?

Eh, he's the best of the current GOP bunch by far imo, take that for whatever it's worth. Actually nice to see him leading in the polls, reminds me there's at least a smidgen of sanity remaining on the other side.

 

[Scotteq]

Obama doesn't like the Articles of Confederation, either. :sneaky:

 

[werepossum]

Obama doesn't like the Articles of Confederation, either. :sneaky:

Romney's my guy, last cycle and this. Only difference is now I have a bit of comfort with Obama, so if I dislike the Pubbie puppet I can pox them both and vote Libertarian.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Romney likely has the best shot at winning, unless the GOP pulls some unknown guy out of their hat pretty quickly. He is not that bad, could do much better.

Maybe General Petraeus and Romney could be running mates down the road, if someone could convince the general to run and he "wins" Afghanistan (or at least drastically improves the situation).

 

[soundforbjt]

Romney couldn't even come in second last time in the primaries. What makes you think he'll do better this time, the fact that the repubs have even worse candidates this time around?

 

[her209]

Romney has no chance of winning. He's a Mormon.

 

[werepossum]

Romney has no chance of winning. He's a Mormon.

Unfortunately I suspect you're right. Maybe the argument "Vote for a Mormon or live under a Muslim" will get some traction . . .

 

[soundforbjt]

Romney has no chance of winning. He's a Mormon.

RomneyCare explanation +this

 

[Fern]

Romney couldn't even come in second last time in the primaries. What makes you think he'll do better this time, the fact that the repubs have even worse candidates this time around?

The Repubs had different rules for their primary then the Dems. The winner took all delegates in the states' primaries then. If the earlier states are nor favorable to you, you will find yourself with zero delegates and the race over before it basically starts. These rules did not favor Romney. The Repub primary was over by the time Super Tuesday took place in Febuary.

But the rules have been changed:

the Republican Party has recently changed its rules so that all the states having primaries before April 1, 2012 will allocate their delegates proportionally instead of winner-take-all.

The change in the rules to mandate proportional allocation of delegates may end up having a significant impact on the eventual selection of the Republican Presidential nominee. John McCain's victory in 2008 was primarily determined by his key primary victories in early winner-take-all primaries in South Carolina, Florida, California, Missouri, New Jersey and New York. If the delegates had been awarded proportionally in 2008, McCain's 47% of the primary vote might have left him short of the necessary delegates for the nomination, especially if Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee had stayed in the race until the convention

Fern

 

[soundforbjt]

^^^ Doesn't change the fact he only won eleven states and small ones (population) at that.

 

[Fern]

Romney's worse than Obama TBH.

Romney has a helluva lot of (very successful) business experience etc. Obama has none.

IMO, Romney hstood a very chance of defeating Obama had he been nominated. By the economy blew up it was too late, McCain had already been chosen the candidate. And McCain was neck-n-neck with Obama (by some polls actaully leading) until the economic mess hit.

If the economy's still bad Romney may do well.

I don't understand the complaints against him for the Mass HC plan. While I oppose Obamacare a state can and should be able to do what they want. Mass is a liberal state, so maybe they like Romney care. But what may be good/popular for any one state may not be so for the entire USA.

Fern

 

[sunzt]

Romney beats Obama in Florida

 

[Fern]

^^^ Doesn't change the fact he only won eleven states and small ones (population) at that.

Sure it does, or may have. We'll really have to wait and see how the rules changes work.

Last time Romney dropped out quite early. And in many states you couldn't vote for him. It was over in Feb. Kind of hard to measure his appeal across the later voting states. And the economy wasn't the concern in the last primary.

And McCain won't be running again; where will his (former) support go? Huckabee? I doubt it.

Fern

 

[Anarchist420]

Can some of you Romney supporters tell me how he's different from Obama?

Don't tell me he's a fiscal conservative, because he's not. He's fiscally progressive. He's also nationally pro-choice (http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/222htyos.asp?page=2 and no I don't find myself posting that link quite as ironic as Willard saying "President Obama's policies are a failure") and supports the Brady Bill indicating he has no respect for states' rights.

I'd rather have Obama in 2012 because I think a Ron Paul Republican would do fine in 2016 after 8 years of Obama. It's not as bad to see hyperflation under a Democrat than a Republican.

However, I will not vote for Obama.

 

[JimW1949]

Romney has no chance of winning. He's a Mormon.

A lot of people said that Kennedy couldn't win because he was Catholic, but being Catholic didn't seem to be all that much of a problem on election day.

 

[her209]

A lot of people said that Kennedy couldn't win because he was Catholic, but being Catholic didn't seem to be all that much of a problem on election day.

Romney has to get past the primary first.

 

[werepossum]

The Repubs had different rules for their primary then the Dems. The winner took all in states' primaries. If the earlier states are nor favorable to you, you can find yourself with zero delegates and the race over before it basically starts. These rules did not favor Romney. The Repub primary was over by the time Super Tuesday took place in Febuary.

But the rules have been changed:



Fern

Another big problem for the Pubbies is that very large states like New York and California exert a very large influence on the Republican primary, but are extremely unlikely to actually vote Republican.

And personally I like Romneycare; I think states should all be working to cover everyone, and learning from each other's successes and failures to develop better systems.

 

[CallMeJoe]

I had some respect for Governor Romney before the 2008 campaign; I lost that respect watching a moderate Northeastern Republican reinvent himself as a Plasticine Conservative pandering to his perception of Republican primary voters.

 

[JimW1949]

Romney has to get past the primary first.

I am a little confused here. It sounds like you are saying that Romney could win in a general election, but not in a Primary. Why would that be? What I mean is, in the Republican Primary only Republicans would be voting. In the general election everybody votes, Republican, Democrats and Independents. So essentially you are saying that Republicans are more concerned with the candidate's religion than they are about the qualifications of the candidate. Is that what you are telling us, or am I reading it all wrong?

 

[CallMeJoe]

I am a little confused here. It sounds like you are saying that Romney could win in a general election, but not in a Primary. Why would that be? What I mean is, in the Republican Primary only Republicans would be voting. In the general election everybody votes, Republican, Democrats and Independents. So essentially you are saying that Republicans are more concerned with the candidate's religion than they are about the qualifications of the candidate. Is that what you are telling us, or am I reading it all wrong?

Neither major party has a particularly good record of picking the best candidate for the general election.
That's how so many elections end up as the lesser of evils.