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Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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Hayabusa Rider said:
It doesn't matter. The SUV was stopped and as I read it the initial shots were fired 35 feet from it. After that Wilson and Brown moved and the end result would be the greater distance. Since the SUV didn't shoot nor did it care it's ultimate distance was any particular value.
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Yup. My point was just that the second photo didn't seem to debunk the first one, as far as I could tell.

CZroe said:
I listened to the videos in that article and the official said that the entire shooting scene took place 35 feet away from the vehicle, not that the entire scene was 35 feet including the vehicle. You have to deliberately interpret that wrong to distort their claim in order to call them liars. They are saying that Wilson was about 35 feet from the vehicle and Brown was an unspecified distance further, so the entire scene of the shooting was about 35 feet away (obviously ignoring the encounter and discharge while he was in the vehicle). They weren't wrong.
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If that's true Wilson has a big problem. He's allowed to shoot at Brown if Brown is trying to escape, or if Brown is threatening him. If Wilson remained within 35' of the SUV and Brown is shot from the front 100'+ from the SUV, Wilson has neither grounds to claim. An unarmed man charging an armed man from 70' away is hardly an immediate threat justifying deadly force, even for a cop.

mizzou said:
American's have glorified "thug" culture for generations. We want to be Billy the Kid, Machine Gun Kelly, Scarface, etc..... Black artists have made $$$$$ off banking "thug" culture and spreading it's popularity in new forms of media. "thug" culture will always remain popular in this country, it's just a fact of life we have to deal with.

The biggest problem with "black culture" at the moment is that it popularizes and perpetuates ties to economic poverty. Normalizing poverty and the socio-economic effects poverty people are exposed to, can create a self-perpetuating system where people subconsciously REMAIN in poverty.
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Only problem I have is calling that "black culture". Nowhere near a majority of black people embrace that culture, and numerically (admittedly not percentage-wise) there are probably more whites than blacks embracing it.
 
werepossum said:
Only problem I have is calling that "black culture". Nowhere near a majority of black people embrace that culture, and numerically (admittedly not percentage-wise) there are probably more whites than blacks embracing it.
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He's talking about gangster rap, for example, which is almost entirely represented & promoted by black rappers.
 
According to CNN the Grand Jury's decision will be announced today.

A decision is expected Monday from the grand jury in Ferguson, Missouri, that is weighing evidence in the Michael Brown shooting, U.S. and local law enforcement officials told CNN.

The announcement will come from the St Louis County Prosecutor, the sources said.
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I'm driving around to see which electronic store has a big screen TV in their display window, that way I'll be ready to protest when the GJ decides not to indict.
 
werepossum said:
If that's true Wilson has a big problem. He's allowed to shoot at Brown if Brown is trying to escape, or if Brown is threatening him. If Wilson remained within 35' of the SUV and Brown is shot from the front 100'+ from the SUV, Wilson has neither grounds to claim. An unarmed man charging an armed man from 70' away is hardly an immediate threat justifying deadly force, even for a cop.
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70 feet, not 70 yards.
70 feet is 23 yards. How long does it take a football player to cover 23 yards? Hint: not very long.
 
alkemyst said:
Jesus, can we stop this racism bullshit. Gangsta/Gangster rap is a big market and almost all races play in it.
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All races exploit the genre, but you are stretching if you say gangsta rap isn't a black thing.

It's not a white thing, asian thing, indian thing, it's a black thing. It's an awesome form of music, and it branched out into an amazing thing that everyone can use, but it started as a black thing and will always be identified as a black thing.

Much like how country music is a white thing, except all races can exploit that music genre as well too
 
For gods sake, they are protesting the death of Vonderitt Myers. How.... in the lords name... can people justify a large organized demonstration on his behalf?

I've been noticing some extremely polarized views of this in the real world (internet is always polarized) People are either FUCK THESE POLICE or they are FUCK THESE HIPSTERS.

Is this what the anti-hippie/disco movement felt like?
 
I heard that they are not required to release the decision for 48 hours.... I would have thought that they might wait until the evening before Thanksgiving to possibly make going on protests possibly interfere with that turkey dinner.



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mizzou said:
All races exploit the genre, but you are stretching if you say gangsta rap isn't a black thing.

It's not a white thing, asian thing, indian thing, it's a black thing. It's an awesome form of music, and it branched out into an amazing thing that everyone can use, but it started as a black thing and will always be identified as a black thing.

Much like how country music is a white thing, except all races can exploit that music genre as well too
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So its not possible to create lyrics about what goes on in your community without advocating violence?

I don't think anyone accused Bob Marley of favoring cop killing when he wrote "I Shot the Sheriff". But maybe I'm wrong.
 
HomerJS said:
So its not possible to create lyrics about what goes on in your community without advocating violence?

I don't think anyone accused Bob Marley of favoring cop killing when he wrote "I Shot the Sheriff". But maybe I'm wrong.
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i said gangsta rap

Gangsta rap is a subgenre of hip hop music that evolved from hardcore hip hop. The genre was pioneered in the mid-1980s by rappers such as Schoolly D and Ice-T, and was popularized in the later part of the 1980s by groups like N.W.A.[1] After the national attention that Ice-T and N.W.A attracted in the late 1980s and early 1990s, gangsta rap became the most commercially lucrative subgenre of hip hop. Some gangsta rappers have been associated, or allegedly have ties with the Bloods or Crips gangs.[2]

I didn't mean to just generalize rapping overall

Gangsta rap almost exclusively fuels violence, drug use, and the subjugation of humans.

Rapping in general, can be of a vareity of genres completely different then Gangsta rap
 
HomerJS said:
Why would the prosecutors office announce the decision at sundown? Again more missteps.
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Are you saying there are legitimate times of the day and illegitimate?

"Again more missteps."

Seriously? Please do explain all the missteps. Please explain how you are incapable of rationalizing an outcome where Wilson may be innocent. *of course that's just silly talk, any non-guilty verdict is purposefully incompetent prosecution designed to fail and continue this culture of oppressing blacks at every step.
 
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HomerJS said:
I don't think anyone accused Bob Marley of favoring cop killing when he wrote "I Shot the Sheriff". But maybe I'm wrong.
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Maybe that's because most people never heard the song until Eric Clapton sang the song. The FBI and CIA kept a very close watch on Bob Marley due to some of his song lyrics.
 
Alrighty... Well all the news sites are reporting the GJ reached a decision and that they are expecting the official announcement any minute.
 
WackyDan said:
Alrighty... Well all the news sites are reporting the GJ reached a decision and that they are expecting the official announcement any minute.
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Expected announcement is at 7 PM, although I don't know if they meant 7 PM eastern time or MO time.

- Merg
 
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