Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

[LegendKiller]

I was just reading that an X-ray that Sean Hannity and Fox news showed with an orbital eye fracture was dated 2008 but most of the info they cropped out and then CNN reported that the doctors and the hospital said there was no eye fracture of any kind, they only treated him for minor redness around his eye.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-cont...iming-darren-wilson-had-fractured-eye-socket/

and.. this news report here http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/22/did-ferguson-cop-darren-wilson-suffer-br

So I guess the lies are unraveling..

This is how fucking full of fail you guys are. The guy was a thug, period. Ignoring that, and the moronic culture it allows, only results in lawlessness and devolution of the cohesiveness of society. Snitches get Stitches and Suge glorification only results in more Hadiya Pendletons.

Get a fucking clue, asshole.


http://www.westernjournalism.com/breaking-michael-brown-shown-flashing-appears-bloods-gang-signs/

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Exact the same thing happened with zimmerman.


All reports stated bloodied, bruised, broken face.


All of the thug supporters insisted it was nothing. Then the pics came out showing a bloodied battered victim.

 

[LegendKiller]

Exact the same thing happened with zimmerman.


All reports stated bloodied, bruised, broken face.


All of the thug supporters insisted it was nothing. Then the pics came out showing a bloodied battered victim.

I am sure it'll be the same way. Everybody who did any investigating knew TM was a thug, druggie, fighter hothead. His own friends said it. Yet idiots like Oldtimer ignore it because it isn't convenient to their White Guilt bullshit.

 

[cubby1223]

I was just reading that an X-ray that Sean Hannity and Fox news showed with an orbital eye fracture was dated 2008 but most of the info they cropped out and then CNN reported that the doctors and the hospital said there was no eye fracture of any kind, they only treated him for minor redness around his eye.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-cont...iming-darren-wilson-had-fractured-eye-socket/

and.. this news report here http://reason.com/blog/2014/08/22/did-ferguson-cop-darren-wilson-suffer-br

So I guess the lies are unraveling..

Yea. That lie that Brown never was in a fight with the officer is unraveling quite fast.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

This is how fucking full of fail you guys are. The guy was a thug, period. Ignoring that, and the moronic culture it allows, only results in lawlessness and devolution of the cohesiveness of society. Snitches get Stitches and Suge glorification only results in more Hadiya Pendletons.

He was an 18-year-old kid. 18-year-olds are fucking morons, every single one of them. Just because he bought into the idiocy of "thug culture" and flashed gang signs or stole Swishers doesn't mean that he wouldn't have grown out of it and realized how stupid all that shit is. My friends growing up did similarly stupid shit, occasionally went to jail for it, and now they can look back on that with a "how stupid were we?" nostalgia. I mean, sure, if he charged at a cop, he deserved to be shot, because that's just idiotic, but I don't understand people who are trying to vilify him after the fact as a way to justify shooting a stupid kid.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Yea. That lie that Brown never attacked the officer is unraveling quite fast.

Typical thug supporters. First they insist that this sweet cherub child wouldn't attack anybody and he even prayed that day so they he didn't do nothing. Now it's well maybe he brutally assaulted a cop but hey he didn't actually break his skull so it's not that bad.

 

[DrPizza]

Lol the old it's ok to break the law because someone else did argument. No, sorry, the clerk has zero rights in forcibly stopping anyone. I have no idea where you came up with that.

Uhh, in most states you can use force to stop a robbery of your stuff. That "in most states" does include Missouri. Here's the law as written for use of force for the state of Missouri. I'll quote below the subsection regarding using force to stop a person in the commission of stealing.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/chapters/chap563.htm



You really need to learn the law. If Brown is stealing the clerk can use force to stop the theft. Brown's use of force to prevent him from being stopped then escalates the crime from theft to strong armed robbery. That is the law.

I was feeling a bit nostalgic, so, for the sake of remembering an earlier meme,
PWNED!
ivwshane, quit being such an idiot in this thread. How many times are you going to have to be proven wrong?

 

[Bird222]

How long did it take pics of GZ injuries to show up? Why haven't we seen this officers eye yet? I am really starting to wonder about that.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

He was an 18-year-old kid. 18-year-olds are fucking morons, every single one of them. Just because he bought into the idiocy of "thug culture" and flashed gang signs or stole Swishers doesn't mean that he wouldn't have grown out of it and realized how stupid all that shit is. My friends growing up did similarly stupid shit, occasionally went to jail for it, and now they can look back on that with a "how stupid were we?" nostalgia. I mean, sure, if he charged at a cop, he deserved to be shot, because that's just idiotic, but I don't understand people who are trying to vilify him after the fact as a way to justify shooting a stupid kid.

There's a difference between doing stupid teenage shit and brutally attacking a police officer. No one is vilifying anybody, just trying to figure out how we go from an innocent god fearing "gentle giant" to brutally attacking a cop.

The thug was 6'4 pushing 300 lbs, he attacked an innocent store clerk and a police officer. At what point is he no longer a cherub slightly misguided teenager and crossing into a thug criminal??

Who cares about his age or stupidity level. He got what he deserved. You go around attacking innocent people and you're likely to end up buried young.

 

[Attic]

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This kind of contention doesn't make it easy to take some of you guys seriously when you're coming up with ways of shaping the information we are all aware of.

You saw the video, you saw what Brown did to the clerk.

The strong arm robbery allegation is reasonable, it's supported by evidence we all bear witness to. I have not seen any real contention there, even from Crump and Co.

Do you offer an alternative depiction of Brown's conduct to the clerk after the robbery? Was he politely asking to be let through? or is it generally what it looks like, a strong shove to the clerks upper region that ends with the clerk forcefully slammed into a shelf and then followed up with Brown charging at the clerk while the clerk cowers and submits prior to Brown leaving with what appears to be stolen merchandise?

 

[TerryMathews]

How long did it take pics of GZ injuries to show up? Why haven't we seen this officers eye yet? I am really starting to wonder about that.

It took a long time. It was months before we saw the color version of the pic of his broken nose in the cruiser.

A picture, as an aside, the liberals on here swore couldn't exist. An interesting parallel to this current situation if it bears out again.

 

[werepossum]

I watched the video, I saw money being put on the counter and I saw the teens putting some cigars back. Are you disputing these facts that you can clearly see on the video? I'm also speaking as a dude who works at a liquor store, and I've been robbed multiple times. The morons in this thread are laughable. I wish people would leave money and walk out when they robbed me.

It's weird all the people who have made out the exact brand and type of cigars in the video, yet they can't see the money placed on the counter or the excess cigars being put back.

So basically your theory is that Brown paid for the cigars, the clerk then ran around attempting to lock the door because Brown was such a wonderful customer he couldn't stand to see the boy leave, Brown picked up the clerk and threw him backward because he was about to be hit by a speeding train moving far too fast to show up on security tape, Brown leaves the store and is murdered in cold blood (probably on his way to save a nun holding a baby holding a puppy) by a cop just because he's black, the clerk says he was never robbed but the other cop writes up a robbery because he is also a racist, stores are looted by "all races" but the film only shows blacks because the media (even the ones hiring Al Sharpton) are all racist, and now "the man" is causing all the problems because of (wait for it!) racism.

Sweet Lord, I hope you don't try to think with that mind.

He was an 18-year-old kid. 18-year-olds are fucking morons, every single one of them. Just because he bought into the idiocy of "thug culture" and flashed gang signs or stole Swishers doesn't mean that he wouldn't have grown out of it and realized how stupid all that shit is. My friends growing up did similarly stupid shit, occasionally went to jail for it, and now they can look back on that with a "how stupid were we?" nostalgia. I mean, sure, if he charged at a cop, he deserved to be shot, because that's just idiotic, but I don't understand people who are trying to vilify him after the fact as a way to justify shooting a stupid kid.

Amen. Lots of perfectly good adults were perfect assholes as teenagers, and even if this kid hit and later charged the cop after stealing the cigars it doesn't necessarily mean he was a thug.

 

[Attic]

He was an 18-year-old kid. 18-year-olds are fucking morons, every single one of them. Just because he bought into the idiocy of "thug culture" and flashed gang signs or stole Swishers doesn't mean that he wouldn't have grown out of it and realized how stupid all that shit is. My friends growing up did similarly stupid shit, occasionally went to jail for it, and now they can look back on that with a "how stupid were we?" nostalgia. I mean, sure, if he charged at a cop, he deserved to be shot, because that's just idiotic, but I don't understand people who are trying to vilify him after the fact as a way to justify shooting a stupid kid.

Well said.

Emotions run high (understandable so) on various angles of interpretation of what occurred and the ultimate outcome.

 

[werepossum]

Here's the police report for the robbery you seem to think didn't happen.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/08/16/us/16missouri-policereport.html?_r=0

Thank you for posting actual facts in this case, even if they aren't proving as useful as one might have expected. 😉

Uhh, in most states you can use force to stop a robbery of your stuff. That "in most states" does include Missouri. Here's the law as written for use of force for the state of Missouri. I'll quote below the subsection regarding using force to stop a person in the commission of stealing.

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/chapters/chap563.htm

You really need to learn the law. If Brown is stealing the clerk can use force to stop the theft. Brown's use of force to prevent him from being stopped then escalates the crime from theft to strong armed robbery. That is the law.

If someone the clerk's size uses force against a young man the size of Michael Brown, he also acquires the right to break the law of gravity and fly across the room.

I was feeling a bit nostalgic, so, for the sake of remembering an earlier meme,
PWNED!
ivwshane, quit being such an idiot in this thread. How many times are you going to have to be proven wrong?

😀

 

[Ns1]

So basically your theory is that Brown paid for the cigars, the clerk then ran around attempting to lock the door because Brown was such a wonderful customer he couldn't stand to see the boy leave, Brown picked up the clerk and threw him backward because he was about to be hit by a speeding train moving far too fast to show up on security tape, Brown leaves the store and is murdered in cold blood (probably on his way to save a nun holding a baby holding a puppy) by a cop just because he's black, the clerk says he was never robbed but the other cop writes up a robbery because he is also a racist, stores are looted by "all races" but the film only shows blacks because the media (even the ones hiring Al Sharpton) are all racist, and now "the man" is causing all the problems because of (wait for it!) racism.

That's exactly what I saw on video.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Any reason to think he didn't, aside from the fact its not in your hands?

Didn't think so.

And a very informative report it is:

 

[Victorian Gray]

There are witnesses to the incident at the store regarding Michael Brown's alleged robbery. I do state alleged because his guilt has not been proven in a court of law on that scene. That doesn't mean he didn't do it, nor can we not review evidence of that scene. It will always remain alleged since he cannot defend himself from his accusers of his actions at the time. Although his friend at the scene will be facing charges of robbery if he isn't already for that.

"Dorian Johnson, who was with Missouri teen Michael Brown when a police officer killed him, will not face charges in connection with the store robbery in which police say Brown was a suspect, police say. "We have determined he committed no crime," Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said Friday."

http://www.wdsu.com/national/urgent-missouri-dorian-johnson-no-robbery-charges/27509554#!bKaKR5

 

[LegendKiller]

He was an 18-year-old kid. 18-year-olds are fucking morons, every single one of them. Just because he bought into the idiocy of "thug culture" and flashed gang signs or stole Swishers doesn't mean that he wouldn't have grown out of it and realized how stupid all that shit is. My friends growing up did similarly stupid shit, occasionally went to jail for it, and now they can look back on that with a "how stupid were we?" nostalgia. I mean, sure, if he charged at a cop, he deserved to be shot, because that's just idiotic, but I don't understand people who are trying to vilify him after the fact as a way to justify shooting a stupid kid.

Yeah, he was just "flashing" them for the hell of it.

Yeah, that's why so many blacks end up killing blacks and stay in gangs, because they just grow out of it. Suge, Busta, Chris Brown, Tupac, Big E, these are all idols and they want to grow up like them, gangsta and no snitching.

Wonder if there will be charges in the Suge shooting. Was there any in Busta Rhymes?

 

[werepossum]

Here's an interesting tidbit. The Obama administration sent three White House officials to attend Michael Brown's funeral. The Obama administration sent ZERO White House officials to attend Margaret Thatcher's funeral. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...als-at-michael-browns-funeral-than-thatchers/

Guess old Mags just didn't have the complexion for the connection. 😀

 

[Victorian Gray]

Here's an interesting tidbit. The Obama administration sent three White House officials to attend Michael Brown's funeral. The Obama administration sent ZERO White House officials to attend Margaret Thatcher's funeral. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...als-at-michael-browns-funeral-than-thatchers/

Guess old Mags just didn't have the complexion for the connection. 😀

President caters to domestic politics! News at !!

Not to mention:

"The Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, and Donald Tusk of Poland led a comparatively short list of serving international leaders attending Lady Thatcher's funeral."

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/17/thatcher-funeral-foreign-leaders-st-pauls

 

[OutHouse]

Here's an interesting tidbit. The Obama administration sent three White House officials to attend Michael Brown's funeral. The Obama administration sent ZERO White House officials to attend Margaret Thatcher's funeral. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...als-at-michael-browns-funeral-than-thatchers/

Guess old Mags just didn't have the complexion for the connection. 😀

it kinda pisses me off that the Obama admin is sending people and getting involved in this. this is a local issue not a national one that the feds need to get involved with. Why did they not send a delegation to the funeral of Dillon Taylor who was a unarmed white kid gunned down by a black cop just days after Brown was shot?

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...lls-unarmed-white-youth-media-and-feds-silent

 

[JEDIYoda]

The strong arm robbery allegation is reasonable, it's supported by evidence we all bear witness to. I have not seen any real contention there, even from Crump and Co.

Do you offer an alternative depiction of Brown's conduct to the clerk after the robbery? Was he politely asking to be let through? or is it generally what it looks like, a strong shove to the clerks upper region that ends with the clerk forcefully slammed into a shelf and then followed up with Brown charging at the clerk while the clerk cowers and submits prior to Brown leaving with what appears to be stolen merchandise?

actually no it is not a reasonable argument....you have resorted to word games to justify your end.....
Was he nice to the clerk once the clerk told him he did not have enough money to piurchase the extra cigars? of course not.......did he beat the clerk or strong arm the clerk -- of course not! Again it has been all over network television and nobody for some reason can agree on what exactly happened......so we will have to let those with the power or authority decide who was right and who was wrong!

 

[TerryMathews]

And a very informative report it is:

You can't tell it's redacted?

 

[JEDIYoda]

it kinda pisses me off that the Obama admin is sending people and getting involved in this. this is a local issue not a national one that the feds need to get involved with. Why did they not send a delegation to the funeral of Dillon Taylor who was a unarmed white kid gunned down by a black cop just days after Brown was shot?

2 different scenarios.....
The feds got involved in this Brown thing because the potential for riots throughout the United states is a very real possibility.....

Sure the Dillon Taylor killing needs explaining -- yet those "white" people are not going to spark a race riot across the country over Taylor`s killing!

What does that say about black people.....I have no clue....

 

[Attic]

Here's an interesting tidbit. The Obama administration sent three White House officials to attend Michael Brown's funeral. The Obama administration sent ZERO White House officials to attend Margaret Thatcher's funeral. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...als-at-michael-browns-funeral-than-thatchers/

Guess old Mags just didn't have the complexion for the connection. 😀

I saw news of this and thought WTF Charles? Though turns out at least 2 of the 3 are super understandable.