Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

[HomerJS]

Police have yet to interview friend of deceased. This is the person right next to him.

 

[Jimzz]

Police have yet to interview friend of deceased. This is the person right next to him.

Need to get their facts straight and also find some dirt on him first. :whiste:

 

[Jaskalas]

Unarmed != Innocent

If the guy had started to run away, then it's probably not a good shoot.

We just don't know the exact details, and those probably need a solid investigation to sort out.

 

[CitizenKain]

asks to see shit other then radley balko vomit, sees balko vomit as source

So, you only want sources that tell you what you want to hear? Here are some more things you can discount because they tell you things you don't want to hear.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/06/20/the-overuse-of-s-w-a-t-teams/

https://www.aclu.org/war-comes-home-excessive-militarization-american-policing

 

[WackyDan]

Unarmed != Innocent

This... So fucking tired of the internet idiots and the public at large screaming "but he was unarmed".

As if being unarmed should be the criteria for not shooting someone to defend yourself.

It may of course be a bad shoot after all, but still...

 

[mizzou]

So, you only want sources that tell you what you want to hear?

balko is an op-ed. he shouldnt be quoted as a primary source...

 

[mirageracerx]

The. Why is it always black people you see rioting. I don't see Asians joining the fray.

because asians have a 4.3% unemployement rate, we working. you lazy roundeyes... We work we go home!

 

[SpatiallyAware]

LOL at rioters. Not surprised that they are targeting the defenseless. So typical.

These situations are such a boon for gun rights.

I bet they leave this tattoo shop alone:

 

[xBiffx]

because asians have a 4.3% unemployement rate, we working. you lazy roundeyes... We work we go home!

Does it count that I squint a lot while at work? :hmm:

 

[HumblePie]

This... So fucking tired of the internet idiots and the public at large screaming "but he was unarmed".

As if being unarmed should be the criteria for not shooting someone to defend yourself.

It may of course be a bad shoot after all, but still...

Major case law previously established already that stated police can not shoot to stop an unarmed fleeing suspect regardless of the crime committed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_v._Garner

Basically the person has to be an immediate threat while fleeing to warrant a shot to be fired to stop the perp. If the perp poses no immediate threat to anyone, they can't be fired upon while fleeing.

Hence the unarmed bit makes a poignant impact in this scenario.

 

[Whiskey16]

African Americans are definitely a strange lot. Whitey shoots black man, they go burn down their own neighborhood and black owned buisness.

Bloody clueless of you. Not aware of your own history?

On another note, the majority of African American deaths is at the hands of their own.

Ahhh, that deflection from the core issue brings this story to mind:

BBC

Conservatives misguided after Ferguson shooting

Instead of cautioning against a rush to judgment, denouncing the rioting as counterproductive or offering evidence that white-on-black violence is not prevalent, he writes, many seem eager to point out that black-on-black violence is the real problem.

"It is indisputably true that the United States has a problem with blacks killing blacks," Cooke writes. "And yet this has absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand, which is: 'Did a police officer unjustifiably kill an unarmed black man in Missouri?'"

..

Police shootings like the one in Missouri "open old and real wounds", Cooke says. Conservatives should acknowledge that.

Moreover, he adds, police shootings have the "imprimatur of the state", which makes them more disturbing than civilian violence:

"Even if the United States did not boast a history in which blacks were routinely disfavoured, beaten, and even murdered by the governments that were ostensibly established to protect them, there would still be something distinct about being killed or hurt by a man in uniform."

With Cooke's criticism in mind, then, consider the following passage from an on-the-scene in East St Louis, Illinois, piece by National Review's Kevin Williamson that also currently appears the magazine's website:

"'Hey, hey craaaaaacka! Cracka!White devil! F*** you, white devil!' The guy looks remarkably like Snoop Dogg: skinny enough for a Vogue advertisement, lean-faced with a wry expression, long braids. He glances slyly from side to side, making sure his audience is taking all this in, before raising his palms to his clavicles, elbows akimbo, in the universal gesture of primate territorial challenge. Luckily for me, he's more like a three-fifths-scale Snoop Dogg, a few inches shy of four feet high, probably about nine years old, and his mom - I assume she's his mom - is looking at me with an expression that is a complex blend of embarrassment, pity and amusement, as though to say: 'Kids say the darnedest things, do they not, white devil?'"

New York magazine's Jonathan Chait offers his take on what he sees as the racist overtones of the piece:

"When the writer … decides the best comparison for a young black kid's behaviour is a monkey and to gratuitously question his parentage, there's really not much question, is there?"

 

[HomerJS]

Need to get their facts straight and also find some dirt on him first. :whiste:

Meanwhile friend of deceased has already given news interviews. Likely the most honest version of events from his point of view. He didn't go underground to corroborate his story with other witnesses like the girl on the balcony who told a similar story.

 

[shortylickens]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/we-need-justice-for-our-son-cries-father-of-slain-mo-teen/

It seems to me that the attorney who worked for Trayvons family is NOT the guy you want on your side.

 

[Darwin333]

What happens when an officer attacks a citizen?

Usually paid vacation but if its really really bad and absurdly obvious that the cop pole vaulted across the line he might lose his job (oh the noes!).

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Meanwhile friend of deceased has already given news interviews. Likely the most honest version of events from his point of view. He didn't go underground to corroborate his story with other witnesses like the girl on the balcony who told a similar story.

Like dee dee, right? The most honest and accurate version for sure.

 

[Victorian Gray]

LOL at rioters. Not surprised that they are targeting the defenseless. So typical.

These situations are such a boon for gun rights.

I bet they leave this tattoo shop alone:

Cause there is soooo much swag at a tattoo parlor. Posers.

 

[Jaskalas]

Who needs Ukraine rebels?

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[HomerJS]

Like dee dee, right? The most honest and accurate version for sure.

What part of "from his point of view" do you fail to comprehend.

A complete stranger backed up his story and the police today have just gotten around to contacting the closest witness. He was offered up to the police for his story 36 hours ago. Seems this is the most important witness. What are the cops up to?

I've listened to him tell the story many times and a lot of details are included leading me to believe he is not making it up.

 

[CitizenKain]

Like dee dee, right? The most honest and accurate version for sure.

Considering the police response on this, yes.

What part of "from his point of view" do you fail to comprehend.

A complete stranger backed up his story and the police today have just gotten around to contacting the closest witness. He was offered up to the police for his story 36 hours ago. Seems this is the most important witness. What are the cops up to?

I've listened to him tell the story many times and a lot of details are included leading me to believe he is not making it up.

Because the witness is black.

 

[CitizenKain]

Handing military gear to a bunch of untrained manchildren is a good idea, lets keep doing it.
https://vine.co/v/MYZmwD9Dqhu

 

[cirrrocco]

^ fucking crazy..!!!.. Sounds like Iraq

 

[halik]

Handing military gear to a bunch of untrained manchildren is a good idea, lets keep doing it.
https://vine.co/v/MYZmwD9Dqhu

Great, now if only you could make it an actual video, rather than a retarded 6 second looping gif.

 

[DrPizza]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/we-need-justice-for-our-son-cries-father-of-slain-mo-teen/

It seems to me that the attorney who worked for Trayvons family is NOT the guy you want on your side.

Why? He did a pretty good job, especially getting the social media to be very anti-Zimmerman, effectively ruining Zimmerman's life. All the real evidence pointed to a clear case of self-defense, yet at least the trial in the public eye seemed to have the opposite outcome of the trial based on facts. I would think that in the present case, it's not a matter of trying to convict an innocent man; it's more of a slam dunk case. He was a reasonable distance away from the officer when shot.

 

[unokitty]

Ferguson, Mo.

"Can't we all just get along?"

 

[mizzou]

People need to let justice view the facts figure out the outcome, only then can we decide how we feel on this issue.

Everyone already has said "Well the cop will NEVER get charged" or "He shot him because he was black"

I have no clue what happened, but I'm damn sure we haven't found out enough to decide "NEVER" or "BECAUSE"