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Missouri Police Officer guns down unarmed 18 year old

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DCal430 said:
Looks like the feds are building a case and will be filing charges against st Wilson soon.
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Really? On what Federal charges?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...189d80-6055-11e4-8b9e-2ccdac31a031_story.html

Justice Department investigators have all but concluded they do not have a strong enough case to bring civil rights charges against Darren Wilson, the white police officer who shot and killed an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Mo., law enforcement officials said.

When racial tension boiled over in Ferguson after the Aug. 9 shooting, Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. traveled to the St. Louis suburb to meet with city leaders and protest organizers in an effort to bring calm. He assured them that the federal government would open a civil rights investigation into the fatal shooting of Michael Brown. But that investigation now seems unlikely to result in any charges.

“The evidence at this point does not support civil rights charges against Officer Wilson,” said one person briefed on the investigation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case.
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smackababy said:
He is right, but he is addressing it incorrectly. It isn't that black have more criminals among their ranks, it is that people living in poverty have more criminals among their ranks. It happens that a lot of these larger communities are filled with blacks.
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bingo. fix the economic issues and lets see what happens. not seeing barkley do shit either to solve this issue.
 
DCal430 said:
Looks like the feds are building a case and will be filing charges against st Wilson soon.
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You know Santa isn't real, right? And that wasn't the tooth fairy putting a dime under your pillow, it was your parents.

Also, the earth is round.

Where you aware that the sun is a star?
 
Linux23 said:
bingo. fix the economic issues and lets see what happens. not seeing barkley do shit either to solve this issue.
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Reminder: Personal responsibility. ALL of it boils down to this. People often do not take responsibility for their actions and repeatedly try to blame something or someone else. It sickens me.

Brown didn't steal those cigars because he was poor. It isn't a need. Blaming economics is only going to further the problem. If you have it harder than someone else: Tough sh!t. Others do too. Muscle through and succeed DESPITE the forces working against you or accept it, but excusing criminal behavior and blaming it on economics where it wasn't necessary to survive is not going to improve things. It's going to make disenfranchised people feel entitled which leads to more crime and/or long-term dependency. Either way, the problem is worsened and the disparity ultimately widens as a result.
 
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Linux23 said:
bingo. fix the economic issues and lets see what happens. not seeing barkley do shit either to solve this issue.
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I am sure Al, Jessie, Crump, and all the race hustlers are working very hard day and night to solve this issue, right? 🙄 Oh, and how much the US government already spent on "Wars On Poverty" since 1960's? Somthing around a few TRILLIONS US dollars, right? How much is enough?


smackababy said:
He is right, but he is addressing it incorrectly. It isn't that black have more criminals among their ranks, it is that people living in poverty have more criminals among their ranks. It happens that a lot of these larger communities are filled with blacks.
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Poverty is NOT a valid excuse. Being poor is NOT the reason to steal stuff at the store and intimidate the store owner and then punch the cop in Brown's case in which lead to him being shot to death.

If poverty = more criminals as you claimed then why when I traveled outside the US to Asia and other places that people were making about $2 to $3 USD per day yet I did not see they slaughtered each other as certain group is doing here in the US, as in Chicago and New Orleans for example?
 
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Linux23 said:
bingo. fix the economic issues and lets see what happens. not seeing barkley do shit either to solve this issue.
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How do you "fix" economic issues? I know one thing you absolutely cannot do if you want the economy of the community to improve...

do not riot and burn down buildings!

Who is solving the issue? Those who incite the people into a rage? Those same people who are, incidentally, capable of packing their bags, moving on, and forgetting that community after they have been used up and offer no more value to the "cause"?


Seriously, no one wants to locate a business in that area. No one wants to invest money into that area. There are a lot of places across the country where investment can come in, riots and lawlessness are major red flags for people to get out and go somewhere else.

"Fix" the economic issues? You have to fix the crime first. And that can only be solved from within.
 
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cubby1223 said:
Seriously, no one wants to locate a business in that area. No one wants to invest money into that area. There are a lot of places across the country where investment can come in, riots and lawlessness are major red flags for people to get out and go somewhere else.

"Fix" the economic issues? You have to fix the crime first. And that can only be solved from within.
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To be fair, it's a vicious circle. Poverty breeds crime, crime breeds poverty. I don't pretend to have the answers, but no, burning down the businesses that do already exist is not a good way to start breaking the cycle.

Unfortunately I don't believe welfare or any of the other answers proffered by the left are in any way useful. (The right is immaterial to this discussion, they don't even recognize the problem correctly) The root problem is that there simply isn't enough work to go around. As I've said in other threads, labor is a commodity that's losing value quickly. Technology will make a vast number of people obsolete, and we're going to have to figure out how to keep people busy. Even if people are taken care of financially, idle hands are the devils playthings. Bored people get into trouble. Just look at the idle rich, they have plenty of money and still get into all kinds of trouble.
 
Svnla said:
I am sure Al, Jessie, Crump, and all the race hustlers are working very hard day and night to solve this issue, right? 🙄 Oh, and how much the US government already spent on "Wars On Poverty" since 1960's? Somthing around a few TRILLIONS US dollars, right? How much is enough?




Poverty is NOT a valid excuse. Being poor is NOT the reason to steal stuff at the store and intimidate the store owner and then punch the cop in Brown's case in which lead to him being shot to death.

If poverty = more criminals as you claimed then why when I traveled outside the US to Asia and other places that people were making about $2 to $3 USD per day yet I did not see they slaughtered each other as certain group is doing here in the US, as in Chicago and New Orleans for example?
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Gang rips medals from army veteran on his way to Remembrance Sunday service
8:07AM GMT 11 Nov 2014

The former sergeant with 1st Battalion Duke of Wellington Regiment was left traumatised with cuts to his lip as the Asian youths fled laughing with their 'trophies'.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/...on-his-way-to-Remembrance-Sunday-service.html

End Gang Life: There is a need to stop idolizing gangsters like Bindy Johal

Vancouver’s South Slope: is it a cozy middle class neighbourhood in the southeast side of Vancouver, or is it a breeding ground for some of the Lower Mainland’s most notorious South Asian gangsters?
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http://www.vancouverdesi.com/news/i...-idolizing-gangsters-like-bindy-johal/819939/

edit- I'm left thinking that when they say Asians are very prejudiced against Black folk it's probably true
 
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BoberFett said:
To be fair, it's a vicious circle. Poverty breeds crime,
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I don't buy it. Plenty of places in the world with poverty (even extreme poverty, much worse than what passes for poverty here) where it's completely socially unacceptable to then go and steal from your neighbor or be a freakin' hoodlum terrorizing your own people. Here in this culture, we celebrate and worship gang culture and people make the excuse (that's to be taken as perfectly socially acceptable) that it's ok for one person to go out and addict/pimp/steal from their own people to make ends meet for themselves.

No one is ever supposed to put two and two together that for every dipshit getting bling by addicting/robbing from the rest of the neighborhood- there's the rest of the neighborhood that much worse off. Occasionally when people do wake up and make this connection and want to clean up their neighborhoods from within, they're often singled out and vilified for it.

"Poverty" combined with low/no education and a culture that glorifies utter shit breeds crime. The culture of utter shit could be eliminated.
 
Zaap said:
I don't buy it. Plenty of places in the world with poverty (even extreme poverty, much worse than what passes for poverty here) where it's completely socially unacceptable to then go and steal from your neighbor or be a freakin' hoodlum terrorizing your own people. Here in this culture, we celebrate and worship gang culture and people make the excuse (that's to be taken as perfectly socially acceptable) that it's ok for one person to go out and addict/pimp/steal from their own people to make ends meet for themselves.

No one is ever supposed to put two and two together that for every dipshit getting bling by addicting/robbing from the rest of the neighborhood- there's the rest of the neighborhood that much worse off. Occasionally when people do wake up and make this connection and want to clean up their neighborhoods from within, they're often singled out and vilified for it.

"Poverty" combined with low/no education and a culture that glorifies utter shit breeds crime. The culture of utter shit could be eliminated.
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There's a couple of posters here that just posted a couple weeks ago that they would kill someone for 200 dollars.
Is this American culture that leads to that or is it just an American IT guy culture thing?
 
Zaap said:
I don't buy it. Plenty of places in the world with poverty (even extreme poverty, much worse than what passes for poverty here) where it's completely socially unacceptable to then go and steal from your neighbor or be a freakin' hoodlum terrorizing your own people. Here in this culture, we celebrate and worship gang culture and people make the excuse (that's to be taken as perfectly socially acceptable) that it's ok for one person to go out and addict/pimp/steal from their own people to make ends meet for themselves.

No one is ever supposed to put two and two together that for every dipshit getting bling by addicting/robbing from the rest of the neighborhood- there's the rest of the neighborhood that much worse off. Occasionally when people do wake up and make this connection and want to clean up their neighborhoods from within, they're often singled out and vilified for it.

"Poverty" combined with low/no education and a culture that glorifies utter shit breeds crime. The culture of utter shit could be eliminated.
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LOL, those poor places around the world have incredibly high crime rates. Look it up.
 
TechBoyJK said:
You know Santa isn't real, right? And that wasn't the tooth fairy putting a dime under your pillow, it was your parents.

Also, the earth is round.

Where you aware that the sun is a star?
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Huh. I thought the sun was more like a Kardashian, just famous for being famous.
 
Orignal Earl said:
There's a couple of posters here that just posted a couple weeks ago that they would kill someone for 200 dollars.
Is this American culture that leads to that or is it just an American IT guy culture thing?
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It's definitely part of American culture. Back in the day, people celebrated Jesse James, Al Capone et al as folk heroes. I remember when whole neighborhoods in New York celebrated John Gotti as a fucking hero because he was great at throwing parties in Little Italy and making out like he was "for the common guy, only robbing those rich people that deserve it." Even a lot of locals directly affected by the shit his ilk brought to the city loved him and rooted for him getting away with it as long as he did. Lots of people love rooting for the bad guys. Granted, most don't lose many tears when the bad guys eventually go down, but while they're doing what they do it's high fives and hoorays and then "gee, this place sucks so bad, must be someone else's doing."

In inner city gang culture, the obvious contradiction is even more stark- you'll find people bitching and moaning about how the hood sucks, but the next instant they're celebrating the idiot driving around in an expensive car with tons of bling who makes a living by pimping their sister and addicting their brother- and they want to BE that guy! As long as it's always 'someone else' that all the negative shit happens to, them anything goes so long as you're 'just gettin' yours.'


BoberFett said:
LOL, those poor places around the world have incredibly high crime rates. Look it up.
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Not all, but then you'd actually have to emerge from your bunker every now and then to know that. Oh but wait, the robots might get you.

As I said, you can find plenty of places in the world where people are poor, and yet they don't accept crime against their own neighbors as any kind of way out. You can find villages in the middle of jungles, or nomadic people who travel across steppes and deserts who absolutely DO NOT accept stealing from their neighbor as a legit way of getting by.

Ironically, where you'll find many original cultures spoiled by high crime rates, it's due to the influence of western dipshit culture. ie: a village in South America that has high crime rates due to drug cartels that are only serving the addictions of assholes in the states and other western countries, NOT that the levels of crime are native to the native culture originally.

But like I said, you'd have to actually burn your hideously pale skin in the sunlight outside of your bunker at some point to actually know any of this.
 
BoberFett said:
To be fair, it's a vicious circle. Poverty breeds crime, crime breeds poverty. I don't pretend to have the answers, but no, burning down the businesses that do already exist is not a good way to start breaking the cycle.

Unfortunately I don't believe welfare or any of the other answers proffered by the left are in any way useful. (The right is immaterial to this discussion, they don't even recognize the problem correctly) The root problem is that there simply isn't enough work to go around. As I've said in other threads, labor is a commodity that's losing value quickly. Technology will make a vast number of people obsolete, and we're going to have to figure out how to keep people busy. Even if people are taken care of financially, idle hands are the devils playthings. Bored people get into trouble. Just look at the idle rich, they have plenty of money and still get into all kinds of trouble.
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So lets bring in a few million more unskilled laborers. That's sure to help.🙄
 
Orignal Earl said:
Gang rips medals from army veteran on his way to Remembrance Sunday service
8:07AM GMT 11 Nov 2014



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/...on-his-way-to-Remembrance-Sunday-service.html

End Gang Life: There is a need to stop idolizing gangsters like Bindy Johal



http://www.vancouverdesi.com/news/i...-idolizing-gangsters-like-bindy-johal/819939/

edit- I'm left thinking that when they say Asians are very prejudiced against Black folk it's probably true
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Here you go again, quoting me and showing your true ignorant. AGAIN!!! You tried your stupid same trick last time and I shamed and humiliated you last time.

I traveled outside the US to Asia and other places
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Did you see the word "AND"??

Where did I say Asians are perfect and their communities have little/no crime in my previous post. Quote the exact words or Shut the FUCK UP. You are annoying and are not honest.

Since you want to be stupid, answer this = http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-boy-9-shot-on-west-side-20141206-story.html

http://homicides.suntimes.com/


Poverty, right?
 
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Svnla said:
Here you go again, quoting me and showing your true ignorant. AGAIN!!! You tried your stupid same trick last time and I shamed and humiliated you last time.
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I must of missed that


Did you see the word "AND"??

Where did I say Asians were perfect and their communities have little/no crime in my previous post. Quote the exact words or Shut the FUCK UP. You are annoying and are not honest.
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It's all good, I'm white so I can appreciate criticism
 
smackababy said:
He is right, but he is addressing it incorrectly. It isn't that black have more criminals among their ranks, it is that people living in poverty have more criminals among their ranks. It happens that a lot of these larger communities are filled with blacks.
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You last sentence disagreed with the one prior. If poverty is associated with crime and blacks are more likely to be impoverished they are more likely to be associated with crime; either they are in an impoverished group at higher rates or they aren't.

What you really meant to say was nothing about being black inherently predisposes to crime, but you said it wrong, because yes blacks are more involved with crimes, as a virtue of their being more impoverished, if that is the key indicator.
 
CZroe said:
Reminder: Personal responsibility. ALL of it boils down to this. People often do not take responsibility for their actions and repeatedly try to blame something or someone else. It sickens me.

Brown didn't steal those cigars because he was poor. It isn't a need. Blaming economics is only going to further the problem. If you have it harder than someone else: Tough sh!t. Others do too. Muscle through and succeed DESPITE the forces working against you or accept it, but excusing criminal behavior and blaming it on economics where it wasn't necessary to survive is not going to improve things. It's going to make disenfranchised people feel entitled which leads to more crime and/or long-term dependency. Either way, the problem is worsened and the disparity ultimately widens as a result.
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I will tell you this, if you grow up around the same people, doing the same shit, who do you think you're most likely to follow?

How can you succeed when you don't know success? Are we like the Borg where we share a collective?
 
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