missile fired at Israeli airliner

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Alphazero

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Mossad is on the case. We're not dealing with a bunch of moron Palestinians here - these are the big guys, Al-Qaeda. I have complete faith that the Mossad is up to the task, but you have to consider how Osama will respond when heads start to roll...
 

FelixDeCat

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Originally posted by: optoman
Maybe it was one of those homemade rockets. I use to live by Ohare and you could drive right up to the edge of the airport and have the planes be only a 100 hunderd feet above your head. It was actually kind of cool.

It would be neat to see something like that. I wonder if you still can after 9/11.
 

What do Islamic nutjobs think they are proving by blowing everything up? It just makes more of the world hate them. The fact they missed the plane with the RPG just means Allah ain't guiding shiznit for them.
 

Dari

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I think that Islam is going through a phase that all major civilizations/empires/cultures go through. It's denying it's reduction and lashing out.
 

bsd

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: optomanMaybe it was one of those homemade rockets. I use to live by Ohare and you could drive right up to the edge of the airport and have the planes be only a 100 hunderd feet above your head. It was actually kind of cool.
/elfenix starts thinking of wayne's world

how about willahies world, adding a couple of beards, a few suras, a couple of nights with local hookers on alqaida's lush expence acc, and a couple of browning heavy fiftys or some SAM7's.
 

fluxquantum

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Originally posted by: dwell
What do Islamic nutjobs think they are proving by blowing everything up? It just makes more of the world hate them. The fact they missed the plane with the RPG just means Allah ain't guiding shiznit for them.

ahh but remember they didn't succeed at first in blowing up the world trade center either. not that i sympathize with these low lifes. my point is that they are persistent. they will keep trying until they succeed. the same can happen in the us.
 

Leon

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According to BBC coverage, SAM7 was used :Q

SAM's missed giant passenger jet from 500 feet...hmmm...I guess Allah does not approve after all :D
 

thebestMAX

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Sort of makes all that security nonsense at the airport worthwhile, doesnt it? What a farce.

El Al, best security in the world, shot at from the ground.
 

justint

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Originally posted by: Leon
According to BBC coverage, SAM7 was used :Q

SAM's missed giant passenger jet from 500 feet...hmmm...I guess Allah does not approve after all :D

Actually a Strella really isn't the best weapon to shoot down a 757 with. The placement and heat signature of the engines isn't ideal. It also looks like this attack was from the front, the SA-7 really needs to lock onto a hot engine exhaust to gain a high probability of a hit. Thier are very few shoulder launched surface to air missiles that will succesfully do a front aspect attack. Additionally, even if they had hit the aircraft with both missiles it is unlikely that they would down the aircraft immediately. Most likely they would just diable an engine or two in which case the aircraft should be able to make a go around, but you never know.

 

dolph

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Originally posted by: thebestMAX
Sort of makes all that security nonsense at the airport worthwhile, doesnt it? What a farce.

El Al, best security in the world, shot at from the ground.

it was a privately chartered jet. not el al.
 

microAmp

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Originally posted by: Chaotic42
Originally posted by: chemos
I got three. :(

This thread reminds me of all the times I've played an anti-tank in BF:1942 and tried in vain to hit a low plane. :) Anyone ever succeeded in doing this? (In the game, not IRL, better off not posting that here!)

No, but I killed my friend in his Zero with a sniper rifle. He was trying to bomb my jeep, so I got out just to be stupid, and his plane had like 1 HP left, and the sniper rifle killed him.

lol

He was mad! :p

I've hit one with the battleship main guns :)
 

Alphazero

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Originally posted by: dolph
Originally posted by: thebestMAX
Sort of makes all that security nonsense at the airport worthwhile, doesnt it? What a farce.

El Al, best security in the world, shot at from the ground.

it was a privately chartered jet. not el al.

It was a commercial (but chartered) jet owned by Arkia.
 

bsd

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apparerently it was old tech missile, whether that is sam 7 or not i dont know. also the pilot said they came from behind, perhaps he has flairs or sth like that.
 

flyfish

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Originally posted by: Dari
I think that Islam is going through a phase that all major civilizations/empires/cultures go through. It's denying it's reduction and lashing out.

Islam is a religion. It is the fastest growing religion.
 

AndrewR

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Thier are very few shoulder launched surface to air missiles that will succesfully do a front aspect attack.

SA-16, SA-18, Stinger series, Mistral? Also, if I recall correctly, the British Blowpipe is an optically guided missile, not IR. Plus, the replacement for the Blowpipe is the Javelin, which is RF guided. Another British SAM is the Starstreak, which uses laser beam riding for guidance -- also unaffected by older IR's front/rear aspect problems.

Nevertheless, as you mention, one of these missiles is UNLIKELY to take down an airliner, unless it ignited the fuel when it detonated.

well eventually they're all going to get RPG's up their collective a$$es anyway, if not from Israel, than from Rangers/Seals/CIA/NSA....Homeland Security???

Sorry to laugh, but I can't help myself -- do you even know what the NSA does? If you knew the typical type of people that work there, that's an awfully funny statement. :)
 

justint

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Originally posted by: AndrewR
Thier are very few shoulder launched surface to air missiles that will succesfully do a front aspect attack.

SA-16, SA-18, Stinger series, Mistral? Also, if I recall correctly, the British Blowpipe is an optically guided missile, not IR. Plus, the replacement for the Blowpipe is the Javelin, which is RF guided. Another British SAM is the Starstreak, which uses laser beam riding for guidance -- also unaffected by older IR's front/rear aspect problems.

Nevertheless, as you mention, one of these missiles is UNLIKELY to take down an airliner, unless it ignited the fuel when it detonated.

well eventually they're all going to get RPG's up their collective a$$es anyway, if not from Israel, than from Rangers/Seals/CIA/NSA....Homeland Security???

Sorry to laugh, but I can't help myself -- do you even know what the NSA does? If you knew the typical type of people that work there, that's an awfully funny statement. :)


Sorry, I should have said that very few shoulder fired missles that a terrorist is likely to have can do a front aspect attack although at least 1 Blowpipe missile was found in Afghanistan. By far the terrorists would be most likely to have an older Stinger or an SA-7 or one of the Chinese copies of an SA-7. The other weapons you mentioned would be far more difficult to get. I am pretty sure that only the newer model Stingers are any good at a front aspect attack particularly on an aircraft with commercial turbofan engines. Isn't the Javelin an anti-armor weapon system, even the new version? I wasn't aware of it being developed for IR anti aircraft use.