misconception about gas prices

[GeneValgene]

oil is well

thoughts? i think most people don't really understand how gas prices work...it's annoying how everything is traded in futures - it jacks everything up

 

[Cerb]

Agreed. We're again hovering around $3/gal because of speculators, not actual events. While the future of cheap oil is in question, the current situation is not caused by 'real' problems, but possible problems that may or may not occur. However, you, or even the little Korean (well, they're mostly Korean around here) shop owner, don't get to decide the price, unless it reaches a point higher than you are willing to pay.

 

[Flash1969]

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[Ronstang]

None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: Flash1969
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Did you even bother to read Stein's article?

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Flash1969
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Yeah we know. Did you read the OP's link?

 

[puffff]

no unnecessary road trips for me until i get a fat raise or gas prices come down.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

Tell us how you REALLY feel!

 

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

The solution is obviously more government regulation. Why should big bu$iness get to make profits just because they provide us with oil?

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

:thumbsup:

 

[Babbles]

Interesting article, thanks!

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Amplifier

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

The solution is obviously more government regulation. Why should big bu$iness get to make profits just because they provide us with oil?

That's right. Even Bush thought so (and gas was only $1.45 per gallon then)...

In 1999, he criticized Vice President Gore for rising prices and said President Clinton "must jawbone OPEC members to lower prices."

This time, prices have climbed on Bush's watch and his words against President Clinton and Al Gore from 2000 hang out there to be used, in turn, against him: "What I think the president ought to do," Bush said then, "is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say, `We expect you to open your spigots.'"

Yep, damn liberals spouting that we should involve government into big oil. Oh the irony! :laugh:

 

[marincounty]

And I am sure Lee Raymond's compensation of $400 million this year has nothing to do with the record prices we are paying for gasoline.

 

[alien42]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

condesending and judgemental much?



typical

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

LOL. You think "liberals" are the only ones in this country complaining about gas prices? If you believe that, I've got a few bridges (to nowhere) to see you! :laugh:

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

LOL. You think "liberals" are the only ones in this country complaining about gas prices? If you believe that, I've got a few bridges (to nowhere) to see you! :laugh:

There is a HUGE difference in complaining about gas prices and complaining WHY gas prices are high.....big difference. I don't like the high prices but at least I understand why they are high and am not foolishly placing blame in the wrong place because it fits some misguided political agenda.

 

[Amplifier]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

LOL. You think "liberals" are the only ones in this country complaining about gas prices? If you believe that, I've got a few bridges (to nowhere) to see you! :laugh:

All you needed was a "rofl" to make your post more cliche.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: marincounty
And I am sure Lee Raymond's compensation of $400 million this year has nothing to do with the record prices we are paying for gasoline.

Of course it does. His management of Exxon/Mobil helped ensure that the company had large amounts of oil to sell when the price of oil went up.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

LOL. You think "liberals" are the only ones in this country complaining about gas prices? If you believe that, I've got a few bridges (to nowhere) to see you! :laugh:

There is a HUGE difference in complaining about gas prices and complaining WHY gas prices are high.....big difference. I don't like the high prices but at least I understand why they are high and am not foolishly placing blame in the wrong place because it fits some misguided political agenda.

Again, doesn't matter which party you affiliate with. In the real world, the answers by MOST people are the same (big oil, Bush, etc). You might understand...you might not. Doesn't change the majority of the peoples views and you using this a political propaganda just doesn't cut the mustard here.

Here, I'll throw in a political view of my own...

"High gas prices are a sign of a failed presidency." - Dick Cheney, 1998

:laugh:

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Engineer
Again, doesn't matter which party you affiliate with. In the real world, the answers by MOST people are the same (big oil, Bush, etc). You might understand...you might not. Doesn't change the majority of the peoples views and you using this a political propaganda just doesn't cut the mustard here.

What are you talking about? So if most people say something it is all of a sudden true? Sad life you must live if you believe that. I don't see MOST people saying that anyway, must be the circles you travel in. I don't know anyone who is blaming Bush or the oil companies for the high price of gas because my friends happen to be educated on the matter.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Amplifier

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

The solution is obviously more government regulation. Why should big bu$iness get to make profits just because they provide us with oil?

That's right. Even Bush thought so (and gas was only $1.45 per gallon then)...

In 1999, he criticized Vice President Gore for rising prices and said President Clinton "must jawbone OPEC members to lower prices."

This time, prices have climbed on Bush's watch and his words against President Clinton and Al Gore from 2000 hang out there to be used, in turn, against him: "What I think the president ought to do," Bush said then, "is he ought to get on the phone with the OPEC cartel and say, `We expect you to open your spigots.'"

Yep, damn liberals spouting that we should involve government into big oil. Oh the irony! :laugh:

The Bush Admin is hardly recognized for its small government approach. If anything, its interference in the oil markets (particularly a region-destablizing war) has had the largest effect in increasing the price of oil. However, the Clinton policy (and luck) that contributed to low oil prices also increased consumption and waste (i.e. SUV ownership). High oil prices will spur more conservation, although almost certainly at the cost of economic stagnation.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Engineer

"High gas prices are a sign of a failed presidency." - Dick Cheney, 1998

:laugh:

I find it odd that Cheney would have said that in 1998 considering that oil prices were then at their all-time historic lows (adjusted for inflation). Text

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

LOLOL typical Ronstang. You're always playing the same tune over and over.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

LOL. You think "liberals" are the only ones in this country complaining about gas prices? If you believe that, I've got a few bridges (to nowhere) to see you! :laugh:

There is a HUGE difference in complaining about gas prices and complaining WHY gas prices are high.....big difference. I don't like the high prices but at least I understand why they are high and am not foolishly placing blame in the wrong place because it fits some misguided political agenda.

True... the difference is one is simply whining... whereas the second is whining for something to be done.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: Ronstang
None of the tinfoil hat wearing liberals around here care anything about the truth if it does not support their agenda. I have tried in the past to explain where all the extra profit comes from when the per barrel price of oil is high but no one listens because it is not political. They don't want to understand. They are unhappy in their lives and cannot deal with the fact that there are things in this world outside their control....all the while lacking the ability to improve their own lives with the things they can control. Everything is always someone else's fault in their world and everything is always a conspiracy to keep them down.

LOLOL typical Ronstang. You're always playing the same tune over and over.

I would rather be consistant than a hypocrite. At least I understand why gas prices are high even though I don't enjoy it either. There are no simple solutions to the high price of gas. Blaming Bush or the oil companies implies it would be easy to lower prices when that is simply not the case.