Mirror's Edge Catalyst runs on Pentiums

[ShintaiDK]

Nope, other way around. Developers stopped supporting legacy dual core architecture.

By setting game affinity to 2-7, that's some serious legacy removal there. A giant leap in software development.

 

[poofyhairguy]

Exactly. Agree 110%.

Why the hell should we let people hold back game engines because of a couple of cheap complainers (with dual cores)? By going multithreaded for quad, six or even eight cores -- developers can get more advanced, immersive experiences. I was actually happy when Oculus Rift and HTC coming out with high system requirements and kicking the crap boxes to the curb. It's the garbage PC's that are holding the rest of us back.

Developers shouldn't be catering to 2007 CPU architecture anymore. Wanna play a modern game? Well, you need to buy a modern CPU and GPU to do so.

There are more dual core gamers on Steam than quad core ones.

 

[Carfax83]

There are more dual core gamers on Steam than quad core ones.

Indeed there are. But not all games are created equal, as you well know.

Most games on Steam probably don't require anything above a dual core. Great indie titles like Ori and the Blind Forest for instance, or Mark of the Ninja..

And then there are those games that do require a quad core, like The Division. The more detail there is on screen, the more processing power is required..

 

[jpiniero]

There are more dual core gamers on Steam than quad core ones.

Most have HT though.

 

[jpiniero]

By setting game affinity to 2-7, that's some serious legacy removal there. A giant leap in software development.

Is it worth the effort though? The amount of people with Core Pentiums and Celerons is tiny.

 

[IllogicalGlory]

This game doesn't actually perform very well. The charts look good, but gameplay tells a different story, and that story is hitching, on an i5 + 970:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp_AfW9slsI

 

[Carfax83]

This game doesn't actually perform very well. The charts look good, but gameplay tells a different story, and that story is hitching, on an i5 + 970:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp_AfW9slsI

Likely because he's using Windows 7. Frostbite 3 runs much better on Windows 8 and above due to the DX11.1 support which boosts CPU performance.

I don't know why anyone games on Windows 7 anymore

 

[TheELF]

Developers shouldn't be catering to 2007 CPU architecture anymore. Wanna play a modern game? Well, you need to buy a modern CPU and GPU to do so.

Nope, other way around. Developers stopped supporting legacy dual core architecture. Dual cores are over
a decade old now -- seriously, put the old horse down.... It's got a broken leg.

Riiiight...
And the 1Ghz amd athlon core is soooooo futuristic...
Devs use the weak core as a timer,and don't code any (or very bad) synchronization between the threads,adapting the main thread's speed gives the rest of the threads enough time to cope,that's hardly a hack,you just emulate a much weaker core just like the consoles have.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN-mdoMDuSQ gta 5

 

[ShintaiDK]

Is it worth the effort though? The amount of people with Core Pentiums and Celerons is tiny.

I assume you got some numbers to show?

 

[ShintaiDK]

I don't know why anyone games on Windows 7 anymore

^^ This.

 

[jpiniero]

I assume you got some numbers to show?

It's actually pretty difficult to stumble upon a Core Celeron or Pentium OEM system these days in the US. So just from that you can pretty much tell. It's all i3/i5 or Atoms.

 

[ShintaiDK]

It's actually pretty difficult to stumble upon a Core Celeron or Pentium OEM system these days in the US. So just from that you can pretty much tell. It's all i3/i5 or Atoms.

So, no numbers?

OEMs still sell them.

 

[jpiniero]

So, no numbers?

OEMs still sell them.

You do see a couple occasionally. Intel has said in the past that the i5 is by far the biggest seller followed by the i3 and then i7. Pretty sure they said that Celeron/Pentium was behind the i7, don't remember. But that would make sense given that it's so hard to find in an OEM system in the US.

 

[ShintaiDK]

You do see a couple occasionally. Intel has said in the past that the i5 is by far the biggest seller followed by the i3 and then i7. Pretty sure they said that Celeron/Pentium was behind the i7, don't remember. But that would make sense given that it's so hard to find in an OEM system in the US.

Got a link for that information?

 

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

There are more dual core gamers on Steam than quad core ones.

And they're playing DOTA 2 -- something that an 8 year old netbook can run. Why should these pieces of hardware garbage hold back advancements in game development? The short answer: they shouldn't. You want to play modern games? Well you need to pay the price of admission (buy real hardware).

If you want to go to Disney World -- you have to pay admission at the gate.
They don't let you inside the park if you only have half the money.

 

[jpiniero]

Got a link for that information?

No, because I am too lazy to look up the quote from Intel on the topic. Intel doesn't typically talk about product mix too much so it's not like you would get actual numbers. It does include both desktop and laptop when talking about the brands.

 

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

Most have HT though.

Exactly, a hyperthreaded dual core executes 4 threads -- So I've never really considered an i3 to be an actual dual core.

In my opinion, the current Intel mainstream lineup is broken. Physical dual cores in the year 2016 is a bad joke.

The Pentium / Celerons should now be hyperthreaded dual cores, but differentiated by clock speeds (with Pentiums having the
higher clocks). The i3 should become the physical quad cores (former i5). The i5 should become the hyperthreaded quad cores
(former i7). The i7's should be hyperthreaded hex cores.

 

[MiddleOfTheRoad]

Got a link for that information?

Well, it wasn't my post -- but I did find a little info at least in regards to what Newegg sells. I believe they are simply talking about their store and not nationally, but it is an eye opener.

It appears that the FX-6300 is AMD's best seller.... Which surprised me...... I figured it would be one of the octocores. Nothing but i5 and i7 for Intel.

http://blog.neweggbusiness.com/news/best-selling-cpus-of-2015/

 

[ShintaiDK]

Well, it wasn't my post -- but I did find a little info at least in regards to what Newegg sells. I believe they are simply talking about their store and not nationally, but it is an eye opener.

It appears that the FX-6300 is AMD's best seller.... Which surprised me...... I figured it would be one of the octocores. Nothing but i5 and i7 for Intel.

http://blog.neweggbusiness.com/news/best-selling-cpus-of-2015/

Newegg is a bit irrelevant in the case. Not surprised about the lack of FX8xxx sales tho for the DIY.

 

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