Minority Report: Two thumbs up! *QUESTION*

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ndee

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"Welcome to [insert year the movie came out], dumbass"

I don't care, just saw the movie today for the first time and I have to say it's a reeeeeally good movie, I like it :) Is Bourne Identdity kinda like that movie?


Question: OK, now that I was thinking about how Tom Cruise got to kill that guy, Leo Crow(the one with the pictures from his kid). That just couldn't work out at all. Agatha(future-telling-girl) sees how Tom Cruise kills that guy BUT how could she see that? It wouldn't happen if Tom Cruise didn't see that killing-scene at all. It's different with that guy who got home and saw how his wife cheated on him. That WILL eventually happen, but Tom Cruise's scene only happens BECAUSE Agatha saw the future. How did they set that up? Tell me if you don't understand what I mean, I will try to explain it clearer.
 
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flxnimprtmscl

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Bourne Identity sucked. If you've read the book anyway. Minority report sucked as well imo. Not as bad as the Bourne Identity but I didn't get much enjoyment out of it.
 
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CTrain

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It was one of the great movie I've seen in a while.
And NO, BI is no where as good.
 
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n0cmonkey

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It would have been better if they hadn't changed so much of the story. I'm betting I, Robot will be similar.
 
bradruth

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Both Minority Report and The Bourne Identity are very good movies. MP had too much of a "hollywood ending," though...I like my movies to end on a more tragic note.
 
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n0cmonkey

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Originally posted by: bradruth
Both Minority Report and The Bourne Identity are very good movies. MP had too much of a "hollywood ending," though...I like my movies to end on a more tragic note.
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Read Minority Report, you might like the ending better in the story ;)
 
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bradruth

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Originally posted by: bradruth
Both Minority Report and The Bourne Identity are very good movies. MP had too much of a "hollywood ending," though...I like my movies to end on a more tragic note.
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Read Minority Report, you might like the ending better in the story ;)
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I figured the book would be different.

I heart Philip K. Dick. :)
 
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Great movie. The problem I have with it is the constant advertising and product placement. I saw it originally in the theater and left thinking they should have paid me to see it (if anything because the production costs were probably covered simply by the inclusion of that Lexus ad and Gap "scene" [read: ad]).

Otherwise a great flick.
 
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average movie IMO. Colin Farrell<sp?> was a pleasent surprise, everyone else had moments but were just ho-hum overall. Plus there were some serious flaws in logic going on.


Lethal
 
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ReiAyanami

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technically it wasn't cruise that killed crow, because crow grabbed the gun, pulled it close to his chest and pulled the trigger
 
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I thought it was a great movie. Sure there were some flaws in the plot, but overall it was great.
The one thing that still bothers me is him being able to use his own eyes to get access to the building. He has to get his eyes replaced because they are looking for him in every public place, but for some reason they don't remove his access to their building? Come on.

Bourne Identity was a good fun movie, but not great.
 
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ndee

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
technically it wasn't cruise that killed crow, because crow grabbed the gun, pulled it close to his chest and pulled the trigger
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but how come that he was even there? How come that Agatha could see that scene? That scene wouldnt happen if Tom Cruise did not see that scene.
 
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flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
technically it wasn't cruise that killed crow, because crow grabbed the gun, pulled it close to his chest and pulled the trigger
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In that case it isn't really a murder but a suicide. Which means Agatha would never have seen it at all.

Regardless, it's a stupid basis for a movie. You'd think the writers (does it follow the book?) would have followed their idea through to a logical conclusion. Either way you look at it, the murder/suicide couldn't have been seen that the subsequent events couldn't have happened.

Edit: The plot was not well thought out at all. The answer you're looking for does not exist. Stop asking ;) It's like asking why 5+5=13. It doesn't. Therefore, there is no answer to that question.
 
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flxnimprtmscl

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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
The whole paradox is part of the story.
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How do you figure? They don't address it at all iirc. They just gloss over it as if it did not exist and the plot is completely logical.
 
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ndee

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
The whole paradox is part of the story.
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How do you figure? They don't address it at all iirc. They just gloss over it as if it did not exist and the plot is completely logical.
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My friends opinion: That scene would have happend anyway because Lamar(that old guy) would have told Tom Cruise that this guy has something to do with his kid(Tom Cruise's). So it doesn't matter if Agatha has seen that scene OR the old guy have given the hint to Tom Cruise. It also happend anyway, like the wife that cheated on her man. That would be a logical explanation.
 
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ndee

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Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
technically it wasn't cruise that killed crow, because crow grabbed the gun, pulled it close to his chest and pulled the trigger
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In that case it isn't really a murder but a suicide. Which means Agatha would never have seen it at all.

Regardless, it's a stupid basis for a movie. You'd think the writers (does it follow the book?) would have followed their idea through to a logical conclusion. Either way you look at it, the murder/suicide couldn't have been seen that the subsequent events couldn't have happened.

Edit: The plot was not well thought out at all. The answer you're looking for does not exist. Stop asking ;) It's like asking why 5+5=13. It doesn't. Therefore, there is no answer to that question.
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OK, I just take it as a plot hole then ;)
 
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