Minorities are not buying American

[Tsavo]

Ironically the Toyota Camry is the most American car currently one can buy, literally. Its HQ (Toyota) isn't in the US but its parts and construction are most american. Second place is a Honda IIRC. In fact, Japanese cars are half the top ten, read it just a couple of days ago.
All things equal, I agree. But as the guy in the Lincoln commercial says "All things being equal...they aren't." Parts with high labor content this makes sense but the more automated a part is the less labor cost is relevant.

Accord is in first place with the most American domestic content.

 

[jhu]

I agree sometimes thats the case. Im not sure why you have such a tough time understanding what I consider an American company and why I think its important.

We're talking about two things here: 1) whether a given product is American or not and 2) whether a company is American or not. With regard to the first, clearly something that's made in the USA is an American product. Just because it has a foreign name on it doesn't make it any less of an American product.

With regard to the second, it seems as though you would consider a company American by virtue of its stock being listed on a USA stock exchange, which doesn't seem to make much sense.

And your comment of "I would consider it (the MKZ) less American than the Camry." shows you view whats American differently than me, and closer to how the UAW views "American" cars. Although the Camry is much more "American" than said MKZ, BOTH are banned on UAW property. The Toyota because ultimately its a Japanese auto, and the MKZ because its not assembled in the US.

I don't see how the UAW's opinion is relevant here.

 

[JSt0rm]

Products made in America are almost always inferior to the ones made overseas.

sweeping over generalization. But you knew that.

 

[Throckmorton]

Because we all know that origin of parts makes a car domestic or foreign. Forget about R&D and all that, or where the profits go. In that list, it only shows where the cars are assembled. Where are they designed and tested? A lot of local jobs in the automotive industry in WNY are through GM, with their fuel cell lab in Honeoye Falls, location in Rochester, and engine plant in Tonawanda. I don't see those on the list, because they aren't assembly plants.

It's not just assembly. It shows percentages indicating what percentage value is American.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally Posted by JS80
Products made in America are almost always inferior to the ones made overseas.

^ This would be the typical Republican attitude. They intentionally do not buy American, because they despite the American worker and American industry.

I think you meant despise.

Despite your gaffe his posts as well as his fellow ilk have at least come out and admitted how much they hate this country, now if we can just get their asses out of here.

 

[blackangst1]

We're talking about two things here: 1) whether a given product is American or not and 2) whether a company is American or not. With regard to the first, clearly something that's made in the USA is an American product. Just because it has a foreign name on it doesn't make it any less of an American product.

With regard to the second, it seems as though you would consider a company American by virtue of its stock being listed on a USA stock exchange, which doesn't seem to make much sense.

I guess youre right...two different discussions. And after doing a little research, it seems there are more foreign companies listed on the NYSE than I thought (about 451).

I don't see how the UAW's opinion is relevant here.

Ancillary comment.

 

[blackangst1]

But what does that have to do with whether or not a stock is listed in the USA? The profits made in the USA by a foreign company don't necessarily leave the USA just as USA-based companies' overseas profits don't necessarily return.

The notion that Levi's is an American company isn't in question. It's the product that they sell: they're Chinese jeans with an American brand name only.

Side note, but AFAIK Levi's are made in Mexico, Guatamala, Costa Rica, and Philippines

 

[jhu]

Side note, but AFAIK Levi's are made in Mexico, Guatamala, Costa Rica, and Philippines

Oh, sorry, I guess they're American, but not USAian.

 

[BoomerD]

Theoretically, yes. In the same way I still consider Levi's to be an American company even though they arent made here anymore. The profits funnel here.

I no longer consider Levi Strauss to be an American company. Their headquarters might still be here, but all their products are imported.

If minorities don't want to buy American...maybe America should return the favor and stop buying from minorities.

 

[Throckmorton]

You must not know many Democrats then!



Or this:



loliberals

There's a difference between buying foreign cars and absolutely refusing to buy American. I have an American car and I prefer to buy American, but since I want a used RWD car with good handling for under $4000 I'm probably going to have to buy an old BMW.

There are probably a lot of Asians who will only buy an Asian car, but the other group of people who in my experience refuse to buy American cars are conservatives, because they hate the UAW.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Bullshit. There is a reason many people will pay more for American products now. At one point this was true for cars but not for the rest. I paid more for my weber genisis grill becuase it is made in america. It also has a longer warranty then the foreign made models they sell.

How about clothing? Notice all the defects lately? I have had more pockets sewn closed in the past year than I have seen my whole life. It is made cheap fast and replaceable. It is not made to be quality.

If you are buying nicer clothes, they are supposed to be that way...

 

[blackangst1]

There's a difference between buying foreign cars and absolutely refusing to buy American. I have an American car and I prefer to buy American, but since I want a used RWD car with good handling for under $4000 I'm probably going to have to buy an old BMW.

There are probably a lot of Asians who will only buy an Asian car, but the other group of people who in my experience refuse to buy American cars are conservatives, because they hate the UAW.

You fail at clicking and reading.

From the link I posted:

Twenty-two percent of liberal Democrats say they would never consider an American car, according to a recent Gallup poll, the highest of any group. Among conservative Republicans, 14 percent would only consider a foreign car.

I'll quote your original post for the lulz:

The only people I know who refuse to buy American are Republicans

 

[evident]

There's a difference between buying foreign cars and absolutely refusing to buy American. I have an American car and I prefer to buy American, but since I want a used RWD car with good handling for under $4000 I'm probably going to have to buy an old BMW.

There are probably a lot of Asians who will only buy an Asian car, but the other group of people who in my experience refuse to buy American cars are conservatives, because they hate the UAW.

I love buying american products for things other than vehicles, but I think GM and chrysler are terrible companies because of their past products and i think other people are in the same boat as i am. I don't think it's being anti american, it's being anti those companies and they also happen to be based in detroit.

 

[JS80]

You must not know many Democrats then!



Or this:



loliberals

loliberals indeed. Throckmorton hook line and sinker.