Minnesota Supreme Court paves way for Democrat Al Franken to take Senate seat

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feralkid

Lifer
Jan 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: eleison
The economy/market started tanking badly once Obama got elected. Before the election it was still debatable if we were in a recession or not. After the election, there was very little doubt.

LOL. That 21% is still kickin ain't they!



It also helps if lying through your teeth is as normal as breathing.

Who raised and tried to educate this fool?

Marmosets?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Pneumothorax
That's the thing though, with the way the republican party is right now with cheating/disappearing governors, palin/mccain/letterman feuds, futile lawsuits and lack of any real leadership, I'm pretty sure the Dems will get near that point in 2010. The republicans only chance now is complete failure of the stimulus package, failure of UHC, and failure of cap and crap. I'm not exactly a hard-core rightie, but I want BALANCE in the federal government and there is NONE of that now.
You're not hoping for this, are you? Is your 'team' more important than the country?

I know several people who want the country go down the shitter under the Obama administration for the lone reason of the (R) party regaining control. They are so stubbornly for 'their side' they'd rather this country fail than admit they were wrong. These are the same people who call themselves 'true patriots' and 'real Americans'. :roll:

Well what about us? They want exactly what we got. Are we right to now take advantage of it? Or is it OK bcause Republicans destroying the country is inevitable if they have the power?
 

eleison

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Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: jonks
Originally posted by: eleison
The economy/market started tanking badly once Obama got elected. Before the election it was still debatable if we were in a recession or not. After the election, there was very little doubt.

LOL. That 21% is still kickin ain't they!



It also helps if lying through your teeth is as normal as breathing.

Who raised and tried to educate this fool?

Marmosets?



I'm just happy I still got my job. Some of my friends who are obama supporters do not. I told them Obama is bad for business... oh well... I'm sure they are having fun on the government cheeze. Say it with me: "Hope, Change.. Yes We Can"

Oh yea, isn't gitmo closed yet? What about the prisoners.. "Yes we can!!!" dumbasssess.. drank the koolaid didn't you??
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: eleison
I'm just happy I still got my job. Some of my friends who are obama supporters do not. I told them Obama is bad for business... oh well... I'm sure they are having fun on the government cheeze. Say it with me: "Hope, Change.. Yes We Can"

Oh yea, isn't gitmo closed yet? What about the prisoners.. "Yes we can!!!" dumbasssess.. drank the koolaid didn't you??

Ritalin, stat.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: eleison

The economy/market started tanking badly once Obama got elected. Before the election it was still debatable if we were in a recession or not. After the election, there was very little doubt.

Time to rewind your calendar and put some funds in your reality checking account. The economy was tanking long before Obama took office. The policies and conditions that set up the colossal failure of our economic system were set in motion when Reagan started deregulating the banking and finance institutions. Those policies were continued and expanded under the Clinton administration.

The early rise in earnings and wealth were to be expected, but that was before the Bushwhackos abandoned all remaining oversight and control of their Wall Street robber baron contributors who, by that time, had taken complete leave of their senses and pursued their greedy self-indulgent self interests, inflating their holdings with hot air and fantasy paper that led to the predictable, and predicted point of total collapse.

Cliffs:

Reagan built the bomb. Clinton loaded the powder. Bush gave the thieves the matches and cheered as they lit the fuse.
 

dphantom

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Jan 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: eleison

The economy/market started tanking badly once Obama got elected. Before the election it was still debatable if we were in a recession or not. After the election, there was very little doubt.

Time to rewind your calendar and put some funds in your reality checking account. The economy was tanking long before Obama took office. The policies and conditions that set up the colossal failure of our economic system were set in motion when Reagan started deregulating the banking and finance institutions. Those policies were continued and expanded under the Clinton administration.

The early rise in earnings and wealth were to be expected, but that was before the Bushwhackos abandoned all remaining oversight and control of their Wall Street robber baron contributors who, by that time, had taken complete leave of their senses and pursued their greedy self-indulgent self interests, inflating their holdings with hot air and fantasy paper that led to the predictable, and predicted point of total collapse.

Cliffs:

Reagan built the bomb. Clinton loaded the powder. Bush gave the thieves the matches and cheered as they lit the fuse.


All while Obama fiddled.....
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: dphantom
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: eleison

The economy/market started tanking badly once Obama got elected. Before the election it was still debatable if we were in a recession or not. After the election, there was very little doubt.

Time to rewind your calendar and put some funds in your reality checking account. The economy was tanking long before Obama took office. The policies and conditions that set up the colossal failure of our economic system were set in motion when Reagan started deregulating the banking and finance institutions. Those policies were continued and expanded under the Clinton administration.

The early rise in earnings and wealth were to be expected, but that was before the Bushwhackos abandoned all remaining oversight and control of their Wall Street robber baron contributors who, by that time, had taken complete leave of their senses and pursued their greedy self-indulgent self interests, inflating their holdings with hot air and fantasy paper that led to the predictable, and predicted point of total collapse.

Cliffs:

Reagan built the bomb. Clinton loaded the powder. Bush gave the thieves the matches and cheered as they lit the fuse.


All while Obama fiddled.....

Uh-huh! As if Obama was President or otherwise even close to being in charge of adminstrative oversight and regulation at any time during the Bushwacko administration's reign of terror. :roll:
 

dphantom

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Originally posted by: Harvey

Uh-huh! As if Obama was President or otherwise even close to being in charge of adminstrative oversight and regulation at any time during the Bushwacko administration's reign of terror. :roll:

No, just a powerless Senator muzzled by those evil bushwackos. :)
 

Lemon law

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Lets get a damn clue, in a democracy, the one who gets the most votes wins. In Minnesota, that person was Franken and not Coleman, end of story.

In other close Senatorial elections in 2008.

In a close election in Oregon, a not, IMHO, bad republican incumbent Smith lost to a democrat.

In Alaska, another disputed election, Stevens came up on the short end of the stick to Beggish who did get the most votes.

In Geogia, another disputed elections, Chambliss won more votes than Martin. As a democrat I have to
wonder about the people of Georgia, but I still don't dispute that Chambliss won the most votes.

Notice two things. (1) The person who got the most votes won which is as it should be. (2) In 2008,in close elections, the democrats won three of four. Not really surprising when the republicans were dope slapped in the election of 11/2006, and here it is, 7/1/2009, and the GOP still has not learned that they lost public approval and still have not figured out that their policies earned them their own bad election results.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
It'll be interesting to see how the Dems ram their super-majority down the GOP's throat in the Senate.

The pot calling the kettle black....hmmmm
 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: Lemon law
... I have to wonder about the people of Georgia, but I still don't dispute that Chambliss won the most votes.
...
We people of georgia are a proud people and protect our own - even if genetically questionable. In fact, we're so proud that we now have a confederate history month.
 

CitizenKain

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Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Originally posted by: Pneumothorax
That's the thing though, with the way the republican party is right now with cheating/disappearing governors, palin/mccain/letterman feuds, futile lawsuits and lack of any real leadership, I'm pretty sure the Dems will get near that point in 2010. The republicans only chance now is complete failure of the stimulus package, failure of UHC, and failure of cap and crap. I'm not exactly a hard-core rightie, but I want BALANCE in the federal government and there is NONE of that now.
You're not hoping for this, are you? Is your 'team' more important than the country?

I know several people who want the country go down the shitter under the Obama administration for the lone reason of the (R) party regaining control. They are so stubbornly for 'their side' they'd rather this country fail than admit they were wrong. These are the same people who call themselves 'true patriots' and 'real Americans'. :roll:



Already going down the shitter.... republicans don't need to hope.. they can only watch helplessly as incompetent politicians ruin the economy.. Al Franken, the comedian, lets get real now...

The Great Republican Messiah Reagan was an actor. Not to mention its likely Franken won't be the responsible for the deaths of thousands.
 

Craig234

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Originally posted by: eleison

Are you comparing Al Franken to Ronnie Regan? Thats a riot..

They're very different - Reagan was an ideological hack, an anti-government radical whose politics were primarily based on his resentment over paying taxes that led him to change from being a 'New Dealer' to an anti-government crusader whobegan his political career by volunteering to be the spokesman for the anti-Medicare movement (secretly led by the head of the AMA), creating an album given to millions of people in a PR campaign to fight JFK (JFK won, but had to reduce his plan).

Of rouce, Reagan went on to mislead the public about his record - when Carter accurately pointed it out, Reagan used his infamous 'there you go again' line to say Carter was lying - and of course Reagan then pushed big Medicare cuts as soon as he took office, putting the lie to his campaign position. Regan's political conversin to the right came from being the spokesman for General Electric; being the advocate for the biggest corporate interests was comfortable for him continuing as President.

Franken on the other hand has an agenda about the good of the American people (and people globally). UNlike Reagan, he's laid out such plans in his books.
 

sportage

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Looking forward to AL winning over many opponents.
If you think AL is just a SNL comedian, you think wrong.
He is a smart political genius.
His radio program addressed cutting edge issues "years" before
they became mainstream.
AL was talking and exposing the Rove/Cheney vs Valerie Plame
issue years before CNN latched onto it.
AL radio listeners were amused it took CNN so long to report this.
When CNN and the others started reporting on the Plame CIA story,
this wasnt news to AL listeners. It was old news.

Yep. old AL is going to earn his way as senator.
AL is a political genius, and in addition just happens to have a sense of humor.

If you dislike the taste of eating crow, I wouldnt pre-judge AL.
 

Lemon law

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Do not confuse the ideology of a given politician with the fact that they either get the most votes or do not.

No matter how well you prove the logical premise that a given politician is an idiot, it does not change the fact that he or she that gets the most votes wins.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Lemon law
Do not confuse the ideology of a given politician with the fact that they either get the most votes or do not.

No matter how well you prove the logical premise that a given politician is an idiot, it does not change the fact that he or she that gets the most votes wins.

Al won thanks to Obama. His own campaign manager said if Obama wins by 10 points in MN they have a good shot. They were relying on straight tickets to win. Obama won the state by 10.2% and Al wins by 300 votes. Just horrible timing for Norm. If this is 2010 I doubt Al would be within 5% of Norm.

I still dont know any serious liberals who voted for Al. The only people I know who voted for him did exactly what they were hoping for, straight democrat. They saw Obama and just check marked D's down the ballot.

It shows the power a strong presidential candidate can have in other races.