<mini-rant> dead CPU's </mini-rant>

jonnyGURU

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So I get some CPU's back from some customers on RMA sometimes... and they're dead. :(

How?

How are they dead?

I mean, you do have some mortality rate on CPU's, but I'll have some customers that will fry two CPU's in a row or the only thing they buy from us is a CPU and it ends up dead... and I'm like "WTF?!?!"

I shouldn't admit this, but once upon a time a person in our warehouse dropped four trays of Athlon XP 1900+ CPU's (10 CPU's per tray). Some of the pins got bent, so the powers that be were concerned with the condition and functionality of the CPU's. I spent an entire day straightening out pins and testing each and every CPU by firing it up into Windows and running Passmark burn in on each one.

Every single CPU I had tested had worked and passed the Passmark burn in with flying colors.

So here's an example of 40 out of 40 CPU's that had been dropped on the floor and despite this all tested good.

Yet I still get the occasional, "you guys sent me a dead CPU!".

And they wonder why I'm skeptical?

My work builds entire PC's too. We'll crank out about 200 units until we have one with a bad CPU. And usually it's not a completely dead CPU, it's just flakey or something. I'll actually have a bad power supply before I get a bad CPU when we're building them. Wish the same could be true when Joe Enduser is building them.

How? How are you people frying all of these CPU's? Sure, they're not bullet proof, but COME ON!!!!

We had one customer that bought a chip and fried it. Sure it could've really been DOA, but let's just say for now that he fried it.

I issued an RMA number and got it back from him.

The CPU was in fact dead as a door nail. The customer did not buy anything else from us and was right up on his 15 day warranty, so to make sure we would have no problems with the customer in the future, I pre-tested his replacement in a motherboard by running Passmark and 3DMark2001SE on it. It was good, so I shipped it out to him.

After he got it back, he e-mailed me telling me that it was "also dead". I told him that it was not dead because we tested it here first. He said that he not only tried it in his brand new board, but also tried it in a friend's known good board and it didn't work in it either. Well of course not. You had already fried it by then.

I told him that if the CPU is dead, then he either fried it by not installing the HSF correctly (if at all) or he has a faulty motherboard that's frying chips. Either way, neither part was bought from us and the CPU was documented as a functioning unit when it left the shop so there was nothing I could do for him.

He sent an email, "If there's nothing you can do for me, you can talk to my lawyer. Either that or give me a refund when I return this faulty processor."

I simply responded, "What's your lawyer's name. I would like our lawyer to clarify with him that the CPU was not faulty.. you fried it."




 

N8Magic

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Stick it to him!

If he is dumb enough to fry a CPU not once, but TWICE, he probably doesn't even know what a lawyer is.

I hate dumbass people that try and blame their stupidity on retailers. Some of the crap they come up with is astronomical.
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GermyBoy

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Nice rant. I too haven't ever had a bad CPU. The only time I ever know of them frying is when people try their own homemade watercoolers that just don't work.

Peace,
GermyBoy
 

ScottyB

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hehe, I am kind of guilty of something similar. I bought a hard drive from a store when I was building my current computer and when installing it the floppy that came along to format the drive wouldn't boot so I used my linux install to get it going. The problem was linux messed up the sectors and I couldn't fix them so I couldn't format properly. I then to it back to the store and was like "This hard drive doesn't work" and they gave me a new one. The second one came with a working floppy so I didn't have any problems.
 

Viper GTS

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I have washed CPUs in running water, alcohol, goo gone, and paint thinner, and then dried them with a hair dryer without doing a bit of damage.

Some people should not be building their own PCs.

Viper GTS
 

jonnyGURU

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<< I have washed CPUs in running water, alcohol, goo gone, and paint thinner, and then dried them with a hair dryer without doing a bit of damage.

Some people should not be building their own PCs.

Viper GTS
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You remember last year when you told me that and I thought you were crazy?

I had a 1 GHz that I sold to a guy. It worked great at 1 GHz but would no loger do 1.33 like it used to so I wasn't going to miss it much.

I pulled it out of the PC and there was Arctic Silver all over the damn place. I used Palmolive and water to wash it off, took it to work, popped it in a motherboard and fired it up.

Not only was it clean... not only did it POST... but the board was a Gigabyte board with a dip switch for front side bus and it was set to 133 MHz.

THE SON OF A BITCH POSTED AT 1.33 AND WEN'T ALL OF THE WAY INTO WINDOWS!!!!

Damn! Not only is it cleaner... but it runs better too!!!! :eek: :Q :eek: :Q
 

Viper GTS

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I'm a very firm believer in washing CPUs, I've washed K6-2's, Celerons, P3's, TBirds, etc. I make damn sure it's dry when I put it back in, of course, but I've never had a problem with it. Goo Gone cuts AS VERY well, but it may leave a slight oil coating on the CPU. I suppose dish soap would cut that though. Goo Gone will also lift the shock pads right off a TBird, so if the pads are intact I don't use Goo Gone.

BTW, anybody who has purchased a CPU from me ... If it came clean, it was washed in my bathroom sink.

:p

Viper GTS
 

jonnyGURU

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<< Goo Gone will also lift the shock pads right off a TBird, so if the pads are intact I don't use Goo Gone. >>



Been there. Done that.

Little dab of Elmer's glue on each pad. ;) Works GREAT! Looks like new. :D
 

yakko

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I have only had one CPU fry and it did not fry all the way. It is a K6-II 500 that is running happily as a 400.
 

toant103

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i fried 2 1.4 GHz in 10 minutes.

Bought a cheap a$$ case with 300 watts PS from Ebay. Friend both of the cpu.


:(

 

Kadarin

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<< I simply responded, "What's your lawyer's name. I would like our lawyer to clarify with him that the CPU was not faulty.. you fried it." >>



I'd highly recommend not doing business with this particular customer in the future.. I agree that there's something goofy in his setup that's causing the problem. (Or, if you really want to push it, have him bring his rig in to the store so that you can blow another cpu proving his setup's junk.)