Mind May Affect Machines

[remagavon]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: remagavon

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

I've witnessed it happen to me and other people. I've also noticed that it does happen more often with a pair that is attracted to each other than a single person.

No, you haven't.

Usually people that think this is happening to them are just bad at solving problems, so they never find out the real cause and attibute it to something unrelated.

Nice of you to attempt to speak for me.

One story for you:
A woman I was interested in, and was interested in me, had high blood pressure. I had known her for a while and was concerned so I talked her into visiting my doctor. He attempted to read her blood pressure with an electronic machine. It consistently gave an ERROR when he tried to use it on her. He tried it on me, same thing.

Next time she went to visit him, it worked fine.

A month later, I went with her again. Again, the machine read ERROR. This time I laughed and said, "Let me leave the room." I walked out of the room and to the reception area. Immediately, the doctor yelled out that the machine was working. He asked me for an explanation, I declined.

Two more times she went on her own and it worked fine.

A third time I went with her. Again, the machine read ERROR. The doctor told me to leave the room. I walked about 40 feet away and he yells out that the machine was now working.

Consistent and replicable. Yes, I finally gave the explanation to the doctor and... guess what? he believed it.

BS.

Your lack of analytical thinking ability is not proof of your shaky beliefs.

haha, would you like to see my college achievements to 'prove' I have analytical thinking abilities or would you still feel the need to attack me in order to hide your irrational fear of the unknown?

People will be judgmental regardless. Thanks for replying.. oddly enough I know a chiropractor that did that exact thing you mentioned.. not sure what he gets at with it.

Many chiropractors learn it. The test can be used for anything... it can be used to find problems in the body, allergies, bones out of alignment, nutritional deficiencies, etc.

If I recall correctly, my mother had a severe intestinal problem that had been going on for a couple years totally cured by him, without any intervention other than visiting him and going through some odd routines. I'm not 100% on that and I'll have to ask her, but that does lend some faith to the whole thing.

 

[Evadman]

Originally posted by: jumpr
I think incidents of computers doing exactly the OPPOSITE of what people want is more prevalent than people willing computers to do what they want.

I can walk up to a computer that is having issues, and it will fix itself just by me standing there. I swear, and have about 100 witnesses.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: remagavon
If I recall correctly, my mother had a severe intestinal problem that had been going on for a couple years totally cured by him, without any intervention other than visiting him and going through some odd routines. I'm not 100% on that and I'll have to ask her, but that does lend some faith to the whole thing.

I don't doubt it. I had back problems and refused to go a chiropractor because I had been lead to believe they were all quacks. After six months of trying MDs, physical therapy, and hearing other people tell me to try a chiro, I finally relented and tried one. Wish I had gone sooner. Not only is my back stronger than it's been in five years (without drugs or surgery) but he also introduced me to Kinesiology and Power Vs. Force, and he's been helping me with my nutrition. I had some bad anxiety problems. He caught it using the test.... just an Iodine deficiency causing my thyroid to not work correctly. Fixed without the drugs the MDs were trying to get me to take.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

I don't doubt it. I had back problems and refused to go a chiropractor because I had been lead to believe they were all quacks. After six months of trying MDs, physical therapy, and hearing other people tell me to try a chiro, I finally relented and tried one. Wish I had gone sooner. Not only is my back stronger than it's been in five years (without drugs or surgery) but he also introduced me to Kinesiology and Power Vs. Force, and he's been helping me with my nutrition. I had some bad anxiety problems. He caught it using the test.... just an Iodine deficiency causing my thyroid to not work correctly. Fixed without the drugs the MDs were trying to get me to take.

It's good to see that I nailed it accurately the first time. You're in to the pseudoscience, alternative medicine, fake healing crap. And you believe it.

:thumbsdown:

PS- just to be sure, I looked into that book. Sure enough it's quack science. It's based on absolute garbage that only idiots would believe. An example is that he thinks there are absolute truths that you can find by testing completely unrelated (to the event) people. He make a statement saying that Mike Tyson is guilty and he somehow claims to find out, from these groups of people who had no idea about the case I may add, that he is really innocent. Rrrright.

Who needs evidence when you have quack scientists letting you know the "absolute truth?

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: Evadman

Originally posted by: jumpr
I think incidents of computers doing exactly the OPPOSITE of what people want is more prevalent than people willing computers to do what they want.

I can walk up to a computer that is having issues, and it will fix itself just by me standing there. I swear, and have about 100 witnesses.

:laugh: I know exactly what you're getting at.

Makes tech support a nightmare. You get to their house, and everything works fine, you test it and test it for a good hour and nothing seems wrong. You leave and an hour later they call you back to say it's happening again. You ask them specifically what they're doing and the order of the steps they're taking, you duplicate it, and it still works perfectly fine! :Q . It's hell, troubleshooting a problem you can't see.

 

[myusername]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

I've witnessed it happen to me and other people. I've also noticed that it does happen more often with a pair that is attracted to each other than a single person.

No, you haven't.

Usually people that think this is happening to them are just bad at solving problems, so they never find out the real cause and attibute it to something unrelated.

Nice of you to attempt to speak for me.

One story for you:
A woman I was interested in, and was interested in me, had high blood pressure. I had known her for a while and was concerned so I talked her into visiting my doctor. He attempted to read her blood pressure with an electronic machine. It consistently gave an ERROR when he tried to use it on her. He tried it on me, same thing.

Next time she went to visit him, it worked fine.

A month later, I went with her again. Again, the machine read ERROR. This time I laughed and said, "Let me leave the room." I walked out of the room and to the reception area. Immediately, the doctor yelled out that the machine was working. He asked me for an explanation, I declined.

Two more times she went on her own and it worked fine.

A third time I went with her. Again, the machine read ERROR. The doctor told me to leave the room. I walked about 40 feet away and he yells out that the machine was now working.

Consistent and replicable. Yes, I finally gave the explanation to the doctor and... guess what? he believed it.

You ever read any Leggy Starlitz stories by Bruce Sterling?

 

[PHiuR]

wtf

Gender matters as well. Men tend to get results that match their intent, although the degree of the effect is often small. Women tend to get a bigger effect, but not necessarily the one they intend. For example, they might intend to direct balls in the random cascade machine to fall to the left, but they fall to the right instead.