Millionaires want to be taxed

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gingermeggs

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If you get all the income and wealth, you don't mind agreeing to pay a very high share of taxes.

Their income and wealth has far outstripped any taxes they pay.

That's part of the game - income for them, in part charged on a massive debt owed by all, with the eventual cuts to address the debt first going to everyone but the rich.

The top 1% has increased its share of income from 8% to triple that amount, taking 80% of all new income in the US the last 30 years. Their taxes went up much less than that.

The various things are netting out to a massive shift of wealth to the top.

still aint bought that gun have you mate?
one day you will realize the difference between a terrorist(bats for the rich) and freedom fighter.
 
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Josh

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All these rich people saying increase taxes blah blah blah. Send the government a big fat check - they will happily take it.
 
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Dude, you can't answer the questions because you're either a leech to your parents or you steal shit from your roommates. You have no goddamn place to talk about "stealing" or "blood sweat and tears" because you only have experience on one (stealing) and none of the other (BST) you ingrate.

The problem with spoiled piece of shit like you is that you're part of the Generation ME, the ones who think they are entitled to everything this country has given them merely because you were born here, and don't feel entitled to continue the country. This indulgence isn't driven by the government, it's driven by your parents.

My bitch of a sister is the same way. She got married to a guy whose parents are worth millions and he hasn't worked an honest day in his life. His car, house, appliances, and everything else, is bought and paid for by his parents. Yet he thinks his dishonest dollars (paid for by a job his dad got him), should only belong to him. My bitch of a sister, who used to know what an honest days work was, now thinks that anybody but she and her asshole husband is a leech. The sad thing is that they are entitled brats who really have no idea what this country is about.

Now this bitch of a sister has turned on the rest of my family because of this sense of entitlement. She begrudges her parents for the sacrifices they made because she's bought and paid for by the rich.

You're no different.

the money was earned and taxed at some point by his parents or grandparents, so i see nothing wrong.
they're free to do anything they wish with their money, which includes passing it on to their kids.

i suppose as soon as your kids turn 18, you're kicking them out and letting them fend for themselves, not contributing a penny to their well being right?
otherwise, they're just as spoiled and entitled as you claim your sister is.
 
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1. If you aren't making as much as a 250k person, then why are you defending it so much? The obvious answer is that you somehow think that without the higher taxes you're benefiting, how?

no, the obvious answer is i have principles that i believe in.

i may not be making $250k and may never hit that mark, but i don't believe it's right to take MORE from someone because they can afford to take the hit.
they are already paying their share, if not more due to a progressive tax rate.
 

LunarRay

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Yes, but their millions don't come from what they make in the Senate.

Some of the poorest, as you seem to suggest, are some of those most like to serve powerful interests.

There's no simple measure for what someone is going to do; a Kennedy might be a real public servant while someone similarly situation might be very different.

But we do know that allowing money to play a big role in elections worsens odds.

My X Congressman Randy Cunningham comes to mind... He was a normal income earner until he secured this district who then proceeded to garner millions off his votes...

I'd like there to be - in the House - a one term limit... they can vote from home ... The business of Congress, I suppose, is quite alot to do with committee assignments that really don't do much edification of the members... it is for the public consumption so dump it...

I don't mind the elite Senate being long term multi elected folks... They already have their money and there is a lot more on their plate...
 

Double Trouble

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no, the obvious answer is i have principles that i believe in.

i may not be making $250k and may never hit that mark, but i don't believe it's right to take MORE from someone because they can afford to take the hit.
they are already paying their share, if not more due to a progressive tax rate.

This concept seems to cause a lot of difficulty with some. Just because I am not a part of a certain group doesn't mean I should be OK with any laws that affect that particular group.
 

Craig234

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no, the obvious answer is i have principles that i believe in.

i may not be making $250k and may never hit that mark, but i don't believe it's right to take MORE from someone because they can afford to take the hit.
they are already paying their share, if not more due to a progressive tax rate.

Nice story. And wrong.

At a time of massive deficits, of the poor and middle class falling off a cliff, of the biggest redistribution of wealth to the very top in American history, at a time the top 20% have taken 10)% and the top 1% have taken 80% of all new wealth in the country the last 30 years, when the top 1% have gone from 8% of all income to 23% of all income, you pick that time to say "oh, we can't dare shift anything off those who are skyrocketing up. They're ALREADY paying their fair share."

Wrong. You have fallen for the propaganda about the poor, poor rich people.
 
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Nice story. And wrong.

At a time of massive deficits, of the poor and middle class falling off a cliff, of the biggest redistribution of wealth to the very top in American history, at a time the top 20% have taken 10)% and the top 1% have taken 80% of all new wealth in the country the last 30 years, when the top 1% have gone from 8% of all income to 23% of all income, you pick that time to say "oh, we can't dare shift anything off those who are skyrocketing up. They're ALREADY paying their fair share."

Wrong. You have fallen for the propaganda about the poor, poor rich people.

what are you talking about?
my own principles have propaganda?
 

Modelworks

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Out of the thousands of millionaires in the USA only 40 have said they want to be taxed. The ones that are for it like Warren Buffet are BILLIONAIRES , paying 500 million a year wouldn't effect their lifestyle. It is like you or I paying 25 cents in taxes. If they want to help out the government anyone is free to write a check and give them money anytime they want.
 
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I kno they are so patriotic that they actually think their government works.

As opposed to the Republicans who think their government sucks.

Then why aren't they paying "their fair share" now? why are they using loopholes and legal means to lower their tax burden?

Liberals are liberal whether they are commoners or Million/Billionaires. They will tell you to do something because it is better for the whole, but they will not follow their own advice.
Do as I say, not as I do.