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Millionaire withdraws $200,000, bank calls police on him

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That is an entirely separate issue. Trying to construct a hypothetical "silver lining" out of this incident weakens the iniquity that happened to this law abiding citizen.

Do you think we should repeal the RICO statute?

The point of interest here was a conversion to cash. My guess is that he might have scheduled an electronic transfer by the bank to the auto dealer. And he might have done it from his cell-phone. They might delay the transaction for several days, but they wouldn't put him to the ground in cuffs, or howsoever it occurred. . . .
 
from my experiance it really doesn't. also for the record my experience is I owned part (with dad and grandfather) of small used car dealerships. many would come in with cash and try it. I never seen it work.

cash or credit. we don't give a shit. we get paid either way.

A tad different with a used car dealership. When someone walks into a mercedes dealership with $200K cash money they are taken way more seriously. I don't know if that gives them added bargaining power, I'd imagine so because they are obviously prepared to buy a car. The only question is who will they buy said car from, imho that gives you some additional bargaining power.
 
Do you think we should repeal the RICO statute?

The point of interest here was a conversion to cash. My guess is that he might have scheduled an electronic transfer by the bank to the auto dealer. And he might have done it from his cell-phone. They might delay the transaction for several days, but they wouldn't put him to the ground in cuffs, or howsoever it occurred. . . .

What does the RICO statute have to do with this guy taking his legally earned money out of his own bank account? Even better, how in the hell would the yokle LEO be able to determine anything from a man withdrawing money from his own account? There's a reason that banks report large transactions to federal LEO instead of the yokle LEOs...

The resulting action of him being at gunpoint and handcuffed is not his fault. He made a perfectly legally withdrawal of his perfectly legal (by all accounts) money in order to do whatever the hell he wanted to with it is his right. He could have wanted to have a big ass party at a strip club for all I care, it's his money. It doesn't matter how much cash you or I think he should carry as it isn't our money.
 
Do you think we should repeal the RICO statute?

The point of interest here was a conversion to cash. My guess is that he might have scheduled an electronic transfer by the bank to the auto dealer. And he might have done it from his cell-phone. They might delay the transaction for several days, but they wouldn't put him to the ground in cuffs, or howsoever it occurred. . . .

I'm not sure what this has to do with RICO. The link above showed that the police were there for a separate issue but profiled this man. I think the story is still unfolding. Nothing has been shown to indicate that the man in handcuffs did anything wrong.
 
A tad different with a used car dealership. When someone walks into a mercedes dealership with $200K cash money they are taken way more seriously. I don't know if that gives them added bargaining power, I'd imagine so because they are obviously prepared to buy a car. The only question is who will they buy said car from, imho that gives you some additional bargaining power.

It actually reduces your bargaining power. They know you are there to buy a mercedes and that you are wealthy enough that your time is probably more valuable than the extra money it will cost you to not have to shop around. In contrast, someone "just looking" needs to be enticed to close the deal by offering a lower price. Finally, dealerships make money through the financing. If the person pays in cash, they have to charge a higher price on the car to get the same profit.
 
You only say this because you're not a hardcore criminal. Legit businesses generally hate cash because it's more difficult to deal with. Really shady businesses prefer cash because it doesn't get reported as income to be taxed.

Are you guys high? Lots of business prefer not to give 2.5% or greater to Visa, etc. Write a check for 200k? lmao yea sure. Someone comes with with 200 stacks and the dealership is worried about financing? LOL
 
It actually reduces your bargaining power. They know you are there to buy a mercedes and that you are wealthy enough that your time is probably more valuable than the extra money it will cost you to not have to shop around. In contrast, someone "just looking" needs to be enticed to close the deal by offering a lower price. Finally, dealerships make money through the financing. If the person pays in cash, they have to charge a higher price on the car to get the same profit.

There is a ton of variation in the dealer business. Some dealers do not make any money on the cars and instead make their profit by hitting manufacturer quotas.
 
Are you guys high? Lots of business prefer not to give 2.5% or greater to Visa, etc. Write a check for 200k? lmao yea sure. Someone comes with with 200 stacks and the dealership is worried about financing? LOL

Cashier's check.
 
A tad different with a used car dealership. When someone walks into a mercedes dealership with $200K cash money they are taken way more seriously. I don't know if that gives them added bargaining power, I'd imagine so because they are obviously prepared to buy a car. The only question is who will they buy said car from, imho that gives you some additional bargaining power.
Actually, the dealer probably would have been perfectly happy with a recent bank statement for proof of funds and then a wire transfer. That much cash can be a hassle on both ends.
But I digress. If he wanted to put cash money on the table, and it's lawfully his cash money, then more power to him.
 
The local used car lot that will give credit to anybody to buy one of their horribly overpriced used cars will not take cash. They are as much a finance business as a car business.
 
It actually reduces your bargaining power. They know you are there to buy a mercedes and that you are wealthy enough that your time is probably more valuable than the extra money it will cost you to not have to shop around. In contrast, someone "just looking" needs to be enticed to close the deal by offering a lower price. Finally, dealerships make money through the financing. If the person pays in cash, they have to charge a higher price on the car to get the same profit.

Actually, cash in general isn't something any company really wants. Why? Handling cash costs a lot of money. A lot of room for error just in how many times it changes hands.

All you need is a bank check or even a regular check, with the latter just delaying you picking up your vehicle (has to clear 😉).
 
WAKE UP AMERICA !!!
Blacks go thru this all the time.
It's getting to be like the average black man can't withdraw 200 thousand without the bank calling in the cops.

Like the arresting officer later said in a statement,
"I didn't think McDonalds even paid their workers that much.
Wasn't that the same guy that just handed me fries and a burger out of the drive-thru window?
My bad.
Can I help it that all McDonalds workers look alike to me?"
 
Are you guys high? Lots of business prefer not to give 2.5% or greater to Visa, etc. Write a check for 200k? lmao yea sure. Someone comes with with 200 stacks and the dealership is worried about financing? LOL
How much do you think it costs to have a Brinks truck transport $200,000 to the bank and insure the money during transport?
 
How much do you think it costs to have a Brinks truck transport $200,000 to the bank and insure the money during transport?

I'm not real sure, but if you use a service like brinks i would assume you are already on some sort of schedule. It's just a bag'o'money, I doubt it costs $5k+ You may be right though, I am not sure. 200k in cash might be a nice boost to any car dealership, not sure the status of the dealership he intended to buy from.

And regardless, it's not really about the dealership anyway. Point is, the guy got guns pointed at him after he legally took money out of the bank. Did he rob it? I don't get it. Obviously this was a large account, maybe the bank had never heard of the guy and had never previously seen him. (Yo gotti's account?) Anyway i guess i would be interested to see camera footage of the transfer LOL.

Guy even addresses it himself “Where I come from,we don’t believe in taking checks to the car lot. We take cash money.” 😎
 
Oh CRAP! You guys, we can't make this a typical cop thread. The cop in question that is arresting the man is black as well. ABORT! ABORT! We can't do the whole "2-3 white guys pummel an innocent black man"!
 
A 200K Cash withdrawal is suspicious just on its face. No matter how rich you are. Maybe his family is being held for ransom. Or he is being robbed.

The US Department of Justice has been recommending they call law enforcement instead of a SARs report to the IRS.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fe...nt-customers-depositingwithdrawing-5000-cash/

The U.S. Justice Department’s criminal head said banks may need to go beyond filing suspicious activity reports when they encounter a risky customer.

“The vast majority of financial institutions file suspicious activity reports when they suspect that an account is connected to nefarious activity,” said assistant attorney general Leslie Caldwell in a speech last Monday, according to prepared remarks.

“But, in appropriate cases, we encourage those institutions to consider whether to take more action: specifically, to alert law enforcement authorities about the problem.”

The remarks indicate that banks may be expected to do more than just file SARs, a responsibility that itself can be expensive and time-consuming.

Some banks already have close relationships with law enforcement, said Kevin Rosenberg, chair of Goldberg Lowenstein & Weatherwax LLP’s government investigation and white collar litigation group. Ms. Caldwell’s remarks “speak to moving forward in a more collaborative way,” said Mr. Rosenberg.

A tip-off from a bank about a suspicious customer could lead law enforcement to seize funds or start an investigation, Ms. Caldwell said.


Federal Law:

Federal law allows you to withdraw as much cash as you want from your bank accounts. It's your money, after all. Take out more than a certain amount, however, and the bank must report the withdrawal to the Internal Revenue Service, which might come around to inquire about why you need all that cash.

The Law

A 1970 anti-money-laundering law known as the Bank Secrecy Act spells out the rules for large cash withdrawals. In general, banks must report any transaction involving at least $10,000 in cash. That includes not only withdrawals but also deposits, currency exchanges (such as swapping dollars for euros or Japanese yen) and the purchase of traveler's checks. The law also requires banks to check identification on any transaction that would trigger a report. In other words, even if your bank doesn't usually ask for ID with withdrawals, it must do so for withdrawals over $10,000.
 
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Oh CRAP! You guys, we can't make this a typical cop thread. The cop in question that is arresting the man is black as well. ABORT! ABORT! We can't do the whole "2-3 white guys pummel an innocent black man"!

I know that you're a little slow and reading is not your strong suit but I don't think anybody in this thread has blamed the cops for this. I know you like to inject race into everything to prove that racism doesn't exist in your world (or that blacks are the real racists or whatever) but you can back down on this one. Nobody is picking on your dear police or white people in this thread.

Just stupid people. Like you. :sneaky:
 
Honestly, what benefit is there to using banks for checking/savings anymore? The only thing I can think of is security (assuming you don't withdraw so much that the bank thinks you're a terrorist). Certainly not for any return.
 

The current interest rate for prime borrowers is around 3% on secured debt and 6% on unsecured debt. The subprime rate would be somewhere in the ballpark of 10-15% on unsecured debt. Car loans are considered unsecured because the collateral rapidly depreciates. Since we're still in the middle of a massive global depression, people tend to borrow a lot even when buying used cars, and the terms are extremely long so the monthly payments can be kept lower.
car loans 2015.

loan calculator.
Cost of the car is $5,000 but the cost of finance at 15% over 5 years was $2,137

They're also banking on the idea of the person not fully paying back the loan. You pay $4,000 before defaulting on the loan, they take the car back, so that means they got $4,000 instead of $2,137, and they get to keep the car.
 
I cannot think of a single reason to have 200k of cash on hand that should not involve the police.

Terrorism - police should be involved, also FBI
Hostage ransom / extortion / blackmail - all should have police possible FBI involvement.
Drug or illegal sex activity - again, police and possible FBI involvement.

There is just absolutely no reason to have that much cash on hand - somebody that rich could afford to wire it to whatever legitimate place it needed it to go.

Just because you "can" have 200k on hand because you are a millionaire, doesn't mean you should be allowed to, and it certainly doesn't mean that the authorities should not get involved.
 
As usual... over reaction without all the facts. Was he inconvenienced? Yet, sorry for him. Going by what they were told, not hard to make the connection. Proper arrest was made, and he was released without any harm.

If anything this helps him, guarantee he will profit from this.
 
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