Millionaire starts/scams Kickstarter to send her daughter to programming camp

Anonemous

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Wow, time to open the floodgates for using Kickstarter for personal needs/wants/goals. :)

Economy so bad that millionaires can't even send their kids to camp for $800. She netted 22K which is not bad. :)

http://www.playereffort.com/?p=3884
 
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Newbian

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People are stupid.

With no background checks on kickstarter crap it's just a way for people to waste money for so much of it if they don't look into what they are paying for.
 
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disappoint

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Everyone who donated to her should file a class action lawsuit against her for asking for donations under false pretenses and misrepresentation. Yes I know the lawyers will get most of it but it will teach her a lesson and prevent future scams.

They should also file against Kickstarter for not adhering to their TOS and allowing the scam to continue, effectively naming Kickstarter as accomplices to the scam.
 

Rinaun

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I'm amazed her kickstarter is still active. If it stays active then kickstarter is being super hypocritical in their TOS.
 

gorcorps

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I honestly don't see the big deal, other than her not really needing the money. Reading through everything it sounds like she tells you exactly what it's for and what you'll get, so there doesn't seem to be any misrepresentation.

A kickstarter campaign is only as good as the people who put money into it. If they're okay with funding what will be a shit game from a children's camp then it's their money to burn.
 

Rinaun

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I honestly don't see the big deal, other than her not really needing the money. Reading through everything it sounds like she tells you exactly what it's for and what you'll get, so there doesn't seem to be any misrepresentation.

A kickstarter campaign is only as good as the people who put money into it. If they're okay with funding what will be a shit game from a children's camp then it's their money to burn.

That isn't the point. The point is, this specific kickstarter breaks so many of the TOS rules for kickstarter it's mind-boggling. If they let her keep the money then this is basically kickstarter jumping the shark. If they can't police someone like this then the quality of kickstarters will decline more than it already has.

It's nice people are willing to donate their money to anything, but people aren't informed and I hate to see uninformed people donating to a scammer. As someone on another forum plainly put it, "....And people eat it up. They eat it up and ask for seconds. Too funny for words". She's a scammer whether you believe her story however true/untrue it is. I've seen more than enough proof that she isn't what she presents herself; there is proof of her domain squatting, starting other fundraisers, and she has PLENTY of money to handle her children without needing to resort to kickstart.

This isn't a lesson for the kid, this is mommy saving a buck. If kick starter doesn't remove this, then they either need to change the TOS or lawyer up.
 
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Craig234

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I think it's funny that it got exposed. I'm glad it happened, maybe people will be more aware about giving their money away to stupid causes.

Not seeing the humor. Did you think it was funny that Bernie Madoff got exposed and glad he did it because it'll help people be more careful investing?

Whether you support the woman (she's just teaching her kids how to earn money and use technology) or not (scumbag millionare kid exploiting scammer), it's not funny that I see.
 

Wyndru

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Not seeing the humor. Did you think it was funny that Bernie Madoff got exposed and glad he did it because it'll help people be more careful investing?

Whether you support the woman (she's just teaching her kids how to earn money and use technology) or not (scumbag millionare kid exploiting scammer), it's not funny that I see.

I think kickstarter is a joke, and this gives me more reason to never trust anyone on it.
 

gorcorps

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Wonderful Pork

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I hate the new popularity of crowdfunding. That said, I know (and abide by) the first rule of business: never spend your own money.

However, I would be very interested in seeing metrics the percentage of successfully funding projects which ultimately didn't deliver, or delivered a sub-par or delayed product.

Additionally it irks me which folks get funded for a project, and the end up charging for it, which ultimately makes their start up cost zero then they profit on other digital sales (for reference I'm talking about the Simple Brackets app). I'm sure its a fantastic app - but they asked for $10k and then still charged $1 (for the general public), and that $10k was free and clear the 30% App store rake. Oh well, guess I'm just jelly.

Crowdfunding is not a loan - you're basically asking for folks to pay for the non-recurring costs and get the money (with no refunds in the event of failure. Kickstarter probably takes a percentage). If it was a loan that was paid back, then I'd be more apt to start backing stuff, and it'll likely reduce fraud because everybody has skin in the game since they'd be on the hook. Kind of like Kiva.
 
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Jeffg010

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4chan got a hold of this. I'm willing to bet she is going to have a bad week.
 

KB

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Scammers are going to where the money is, crowdfunding. No need to work hard with a Nigerian 419 scam. Just make up a sob story and get funding.

Kickstarter is just internet panhandling. For some reason people won't give money to an actual homeless person, but on these crowdfunding sites they give freely. I understand the businesses that actually create and deliver a product. Thats what crowdfunding was made for. But if I am going to take the risk to donate to those, I want a share of the company and dividends, not promises.
 

pcslookout

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Scammers are going to where the money is, crowdfunding. No need to work hard with a Nigerian 419 scam. Just make up a sob story and get funding.

Kickstarter is just internet panhandling. For some reason people won't give money to an actual homeless person, but on these crowdfunding sites they give freely. I understand the businesses that actually create and deliver a product. Thats what crowdfunding was made for. But if I am going to take the risk to donate to those, I want a share of the company and dividends, not promises.

I disagree.
 

manimal

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just started a kickstarter called " I Want an M3"

50 dollars gets you a ride
100 gets pictures with a hot girl in the car you can use online to pretend thats its yours
1000 dollars gets you to drive it on a track with film. Auto car obviously

2000 dollars gets having sex in the back seat with a pig

5000 dollars gets you having sex with a ten footer

10000 gets you friends and a life
 

pcslookout

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just started a kickstarter called " I Want an M3"

50 dollars gets you a ride
100 gets pictures with a hot girl in the car you can use online to pretend thats its yours
1000 dollars gets you to drive it on a track with film. Auto car obviously

2000 dollars gets having sex in the back seat with a pig

5000 dollars gets you having sex with a ten footer

10000 gets you friends and a life

That is so wrong compared to this.
 

Genx87

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So what is the problem? From the OPs article it seems pretty clear what the intent of the funding is and where it will be spent. So enough people decided it was worthy of their money and donated 21K to the cause.