MilkyWay@H Benchmark thread Spring 2014 - Summer 2016

[Assimilator1]

Glad that problem was sorted!

New time added, by blub for a HD 7970.

 

[salvorhardin]

41.50s on a R9 390 1015 core, 1500 memory, averaged 10 wus with all cores available. Running on windows 10 with crimson 15.11.

 

[Assimilator1]

Thanks Salvorhardin , I think that's the 1st 300 series card on the list.
Btw what's crimson?

List updated.
Hmm, I should add a time for my 'new' HD 7950 .

 

[TennesseeTony]

Btw what's crimson?

http://anandtech.com/show/9811/amd-crimson-driver-overview

 

[Assimilator1]

I'll read that latter (I will).

So basically a new name for their drivers? Just a rebrand?

 

[salvorhardin]

Basically, from what I gather there will be a major release each year with minor updates throughout the year. Last year was omega, this year it's crimson. The control center is much faster at starting up and has more options. I forgot to mention that I had to use an app info in order to get work from milkyway.

 

[Assimilator1]

App info? Is that where you manually edit that file to allow BOINC to get WUs?

 

[salvorhardin]

yeah, basically to force which application is used. From what I can gather the milkyway servers can't properly detect newer amd cards and you need an app info file in order to get work. Once they update the boinc version on the servers then it shouldn't be a problem.

 

[TennesseeTony]

I'll read that latter (I will). So basically a new name for their drivers? Just a rebrand?

Meh, I just did, it nearly put me into a coma from boredom. But I did have some misconceptions that were corrected. Here's the recap:

...renaming from Catalyst to simply Radeon Software...Renamed Omega to Crimson...Come late 2016...the Crimson branding will be replaced with another red-themed name.

I don't see this as 'branding' any more than Jellybean and KitKat are a 'brand' of Android OS.

EDIT: "Radeon Software" installation has a check box next to something called "Catalyst Control Center" Hard to break old habits I guess.

_

 

[Assimilator1]

Meh, I just did, it nearly put me into a coma from boredom. But I did have some misconceptions that were corrected. Here's the recap:



I don't see this as 'branding' any more than Jellybean and KitKat are a 'brand' of Android OS.

EDIT: "Radeon Software" installation has a check box next to something called "Catalyst Control Center" Hard to break old habits I guess.

_

Re coma & boredom - Lmao

 

[mylesrom]

New R7 360..... 50 seconds even.... happy with the performance to effeciency of the card... its a 100w TDP...

 

[waffleironhead]

My 6950 produces nothing but errors. Hmmm

 

[TennesseeTony]

My 6950 produces nothing but errors. Hmmm

What's the name of the tasks it's giving you?

Make sure it's Milkyway@Home 1.02 (opencl_amd_ati). Back when I was collecting 280X's, I was using HD4850's, and swapping in a 280X as needed for testing. BOINC/MW/Windows would get all confused for a few power cycles and send the wrong tasks.

I doubt that's your problem, but it's possible.

 

[mylesrom]

I had to install an app_info.xml and 4 exe files after a ton of reading to get the R7 to run on Milkyway.... don't make it easy for the new cards.... a lot of people probably just give up and don't run there anymore....

 

[Assimilator1]

mylesrom
Good job on getting your card working with MW!
So is that time from the average of at least 5 MW v1.02 WUs?

My 6950 produces nothing but errors. Hmmm

I'm betting you have v1.02 MW app enabled, and you have drivers after Cat 13.1(!), HD 5800s & 6900s would error all WUs on that app, see this thread in the MW forums, someone did manage to get latter drivers working by swapping in some files from the older drivers (IIRC).
Personally I just gave up with the MW v1.02 app when I had to upgrade drivers to run Elite Dangerous, ......... although thinking about it, now I have an HD 7950 I should be ok to run it again!

It's a pretty bad show by MW though that they still haven't sorted it out!:hmm:

 

[waffleironhead]

mylesrom
Good job on getting your card working with MW!
So is that time from the average of at least 5 MW v1.02 WUs?


I'm betting you have v1.02 MW app enabled, and you have drivers after Cat 13.1(!), HD 5800s & 6900s would error all WUs on that app, see this thread in the MW forums, someone did manage to get latter drivers working by swapping in some files from the older drivers (IIRC).
Personally I just gave up with the MW v1.02 app when I had to upgrade drivers to run Elite Dangerous, ......... although thinking about it, now I have an HD 7950 I should be ok to run it again!

It's a pretty bad show by MW though that they still haven't sorted it out!:hmm:

Ah, I see that now. Thanks. Guess it is a known issue for them. I am running whatever was the last driver AMD released before going to legacy status.
Yes it was the 1.02 app that was erroring. The modified fit ones do fine.
Its a shame the Dev's have not chimed in on the issue. This 6950 looks like it should fly on that project.

 

[Assimilator1]

Yea it does , unless you want to mod drivers you'll need to switch off the MW v1.02 app in the online preferences.

Seems my HD 7950 is doing the v1.02 WUs in about 37.6s ......... although that seems under-par as it's default clocks are 925/1250 (Cat 15.7.1)

 

[mylesrom]

mylesrom
Good job on getting your card working with MW!
So is that time from the average of at least 5 MW v1.02 WUs?



It's a pretty bad show by MW though that they still haven't sorted it out!:hmm:

the work units are modified fit, 1.36 if that makes sense...

over 500 units all 50 seconds

 

[TennesseeTony]

the work units are modified fit, 1.36 if that makes sense...

over 500 units all 50 seconds

Ah, I thought 50 secs was too good for that card. Those aren't the work unit's we are trying to benchmark.

Go to and login to your account at Milkyway and then click the milkyway preferences about mid page:

Now, you want to edit the default preferences. For two reasons. First, so only the 1.02 project gets crunched by the GPU, and 2, the 1.02 project pays the most in points.

Deselect the bottom three for now, run at least 5-10 of the Milkyway@Home (that's the 1.02 we're talking about), and don't forget to press Update, like I always do.

Don't forget to go back and recheck those other three sub-projects, if that's what you want to do. Most of us use the CPU power on something else, since the GPU is so much more efficient at running Milkyway.

 

[Assimilator1]

Finally benchmarked my 'new' CPU at MW

i7 4820k @3.9 GHz with HT ... 3672s (average from 7 WUs)
Without HT .......................... 2221s (average from 9 WUs)

So with HT on it's ~17% faster doing 2 WUs , that's better than I thought it would be!, though of course my GPU is far faster at MW!

HD 7950 (925/1250) ............... 37.5s (Cat 15.7.1)

the work units are modified fit, 1.36 if that makes sense...

over 500 units all 50 seconds

Ah yea, those are the wrong WUs for this benchmark, as per my req's you need to crunch some MW v1.02 WUs, as per Tony's answer .

 

[Assimilator1]

I've found out why my HD '7950' clocked at 925 MHz isn't performing like other 7950s at the same clock, it turns out my 7950 isn't really a 7950 but more like a hybrid between a 7870 XT & a 7950!

The GPU has shader/texture/ROP units of a 7870 XT with 1536/96/32 but it has the memory size & bandwidth of an HD 7950, 3GB RAM, 384bit. Also it does not have the boost feature of the later 7870 XT.

It seems likely this card is an early developers sample of which apparently quite a few have got out into the wild! I found this out largely from this thread.

Anyway, the performance of a 7870 XT GPU @925 MHz is almost identical to the HD 7950 GPU @800 MHz.
A real 7870 XT would only have a 256bit memory & so has lower performance in memory intensive apps/games (which MW@H isn't).
But seeing as mine has the full 384 bit bus it's performance will be almost identical to a HD 7950, phew! . Of course it does mean that a HD 7950 o/c to 925 MHz would be significantly quicker, but I wasn't really planning on o/cing this much anyway due to noise issues (it has the reference blower cooler).

So I'm going to rename my card in the benchmark list & my sigs, not sure what to call it though, HD 7930??? (Apparently the 7870 XT was going to be called that originally)......... think I'll just call it a 7870 XT 3GB!

 

[Assimilator1]

Hey Tony, did you get HT enabled scores with your CPU? Your post a while back

 

[TennesseeTony]

Hey Tony, did you get HT enabled scores with your CPU? Your post a while back

Yep. Thank goodness for GPU tasks:

edit: HT is fairly effective here, 2x the output, but only 1.66x more time required.

 

[Assimilator1]

Cool , that's an average of 5022s. [edit] or HT is 16.77% faster doing 2 WUs , the same speed up as mine.
Yea, GPU's are just massively faster for MW!

Fancy doing HT scores for your 5820k?

Btw did you see my post about my grx card? Come across that before?

 

[TennesseeTony]

I've not come across your lawsuit graphics card, nor any like it. But if it's not up to specs, well, that's why I call it a lawsuit card.

Regarding Mjolnir's 5820K, here's 4 tasks HT enabled, running with 6 other tasks, with two threads reserved for GPU tasks and general usability (primary computer). My CPU utilization averages 92% in this configuration (10 threads + 2 GPU tasks for BOINC), so that's one full thread being under-utilized on avg.