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Military lasers that much closer to reality

AndrewR

Lifer
Article from today:

Los Angeles Times
March 19, 2009
Pg. B2

Northrop Advance Brings Era Of The Laser Gun Closer

Unlocking the secret of how to create the powerful beams with electricity will lead to portable weapons.

By Peter Pae

Northrop Grumman Corp. engineers in Redondo Beach have developed an electric laser capable of producing a deadly 100-kilowatt ray of light, a major milestone that is expected to help transform what was once a Buck Rogers space fantasy into reality.

Announced Wednesday, the landmark achievement -- long considered a Holy Grail for weapon developers -- opens the way for development of laser weapons small enough to fit in a fighter jet yet powerful enough to destroy an enemy craft in the blink of an eye.

After more than four decades of frustrations and failures, "you can now see that the battlefield applications of laser weapons are becoming a real possibility," said Barry Watts, senior fellow and an expert on so-called directed energy weapons at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments think tank in Washington.

Laser guns are still years from being used in combat and it may be the middle of next decade before they are installed on fighter planes, tanks and ships.

But Northrop "proved" that a laser powered by electricity could generate a beam powerful enough to destroy targets in the battlefield, said Brian Strickland, the Army's manager for the Joint High Power Solid State Laser program.

"This is a major milestone because we have proven that we can build it," Strickland said.

The beam from a solid-state laser is powered by electricity, which can be generated by a jet engine or the turbines of a tank. Chemical lasers are capable of producing much more powerful beams, but because the energy output relies on the quantity of chemicals used, they take up a lot of space.

Dan Wildt, vice president of Northrop's directed energy systems program, said few believed that an electric laser could produce a 100-kilowatt beam. Reaching even 10 kilowatts was considered a milestone just a few years ago.

"Five years ago few people believed that a solid-state laser could produce a militarily suitable 100-kilowatt beam," Wildt said.

With the major hurdle overcome, the next step would be to take the laser from the laboratory to the field and begin shooting down missiles with it, Strickland said. The laser would also have to be scaled down and "ruggedized" so it could withstand battlefield abuse. "It is still a little heavy and a little big," he said.

The word "laser" is an acronym for "light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation." The technology turns atomic particles into light with enough radiation to damage an object it encounters. The range and severity of the damage depend on how much power can be generated and how well the light can be focused on a target.

The Northrop laser produced a beam at more than 105 kilowatts, which is akin to focusing more than 1,000 100-watt light bulbs on a small spot. The intensity of the light would be comparable to that on the surface of the sun.

A secret demonstration was held for the military at Northrop's Space Park in Redondo Beach last month and then verified by the Army before it was disclosed Wednesday.

The sprawling complex, built during the height of the Cold War, has developed some of the nation's most complex weapon systems, including the Minuteman intercontinental ballistic missile, as well as pioneering military communication and spy satellites. It took up laser research in the 1960s and became the first laboratory to develop a weapons-grade chemical laser.
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Wow, that's quite amazing. Now, if they could just make a tank hover, we'll have science fiction turn into reality across the board. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: AndrewR
The word "laser" is an acronym for "light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation." The technology turns atomic particles into light with enough radiation to damage an object it encounters. The range and severity of the damage depend on how much power can be generated and how well the light can be focused on a target.

WTF!?! Even eighty year olds know what a laser is, and if they need to explain, just say, "like a ray gun" instead of offering a totally wrong explanation for what a laser is.
 
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
great more ways to kill each other just what this planet needs. :roll:

Instead of relying on the trajectory of bullets, in hostage situations this could be awesome. The real question is, will laser guns use laser sights?
 
Looks at the facts: very high power, portable, limited firing time, unlimited range. All you'd need is a big spinning mirror and you could vaporize a human target from space!


 
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Looks at the facts: very high power, portable, limited firing time, unlimited range. All you'd need is a big spinning mirror and you could vaporize a human target from space!

Unlimited firing range? I think the atmosphere would disagree with you.
 
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Looks at the facts: very high power, portable, limited firing time, unlimited range. All you'd need is a big spinning mirror and you could vaporize a human target from space!

Unlimited firing range? I think the atmosphere would disagree with you.

Not if you used frozen Bromide-Argon.
 
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Looks at the facts: very high power, portable, limited firing time, unlimited range. All you'd need is a big spinning mirror and you could vaporize a human target from space!

Unlimited firing range? I think the atmosphere would disagree with you.

Not if you used frozen Bromide-Argon.

Explain sir
 
Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Looks at the facts: very high power, portable, limited firing time, unlimited range. All you'd need is a big spinning mirror and you could vaporize a human target from space!

Unlimited firing range? I think the atmosphere would disagree with you.

Not if you used frozen Bromide-Argon.

Explain sir

A quick google reveals that it's a real genius reference.
 
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
great more ways to kill each other just what this planet needs. :roll:

This planet is overpopulated so yes, people killing each other would help.
 
Originally posted by: dougp
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
great more ways to kill each other just what this planet needs. :roll:

Instead of relying on the trajectory of bullets, in hostage situations this could be awesome. The real question is, will laser guns use laser sights?

Staring into the face of 1,000 possible, highly-technical, science-school-specific questions, this ONE question completely trumps all others.

IOW: It's a damn good question. /slams gavel on desk
 
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: TecHNooB
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Looks at the facts: very high power, portable, limited firing time, unlimited range. All you'd need is a big spinning mirror and you could vaporize a human target from space!

Unlimited firing range? I think the atmosphere would disagree with you.

Not if you used frozen Bromide-Argon.

Explain sir

A quick google reveals that it's a real genius reference.

I didn't see how we could possibly have a thread about military lasers on a computer forum without referencing Real Genius.
 
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Looks at the facts: very high power, portable, limited firing time, unlimited range. All you'd need is a big spinning mirror and you could vaporize a human target from space!

or fill a house with popcorn!




(pew pew pew)
 
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: AndrewR
The word "laser" is an acronym for "light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation." The technology turns atomic particles into light with enough radiation to damage an object it encounters. The range and severity of the damage depend on how much power can be generated and how well the light can be focused on a target.

WTF!?! Even eighty year olds know what a laser is, and if they need to explain, just say, "like a ray gun" instead of offering a totally wrong explanation for what a laser is.

You expect facts from the LA Times?!? Are you crazy?!? 😉
 
Originally posted by: dougp
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
great more ways to kill each other just what this planet needs. :roll:

Instead of relying on the trajectory of bullets, in hostage situations this could be awesome. The real question is, will laser guns use laser sights?

Maybe you could lower the power to test the aim first. I imagine it would suck if you messed up the setting though..."Damn, I was just getting the range! Sorry about your leg..."
 
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
Originally posted by: barfo
Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
great more ways to kill each other just what this planet needs. :roll:

This planet is overpopulated so yes, people killing each other would help.

no its not most of the planet is uninhabited actually so....

Overpopulation is not a matter of how much space we have left, but how much resources we have left. We're already using more of the world's resource than it can replenish itself naturally. We are fortunate that more people around the world do not live the way we Americans do. The world can not support 6 billion people living the wasteful way we do. Eventually, we'll hit a point where the world is too overpopulated that there will be a major death spike on this planet due to lack of available resources. From what I have learned a couple of years ago by one of my professors, this planet can only support about 1 billion people if everyone were to live the lifestyles of middle-class and upper-class Americans. War is needed for population control. If we don't control it now, the planet will control the population itself eventually.
 
Psss, much cooler use of lasers.

Originally posted by: Mikey
Overpopulation is not a matter of how much space we have left, but how much resources we have left. We're already using more of the world's resource than it can replenish itself naturally. We are fortunate that more people around the world do not live the way we Americans do. The world can not support 6 billion people living the wasteful way we do. Eventually, we'll hit a point where the world is too overpopulated that there will be a major death spike on this planet due to lack of available resources. From what I have learned a couple of years ago by one of my professors, this planet can only support about 1 billion people if everyone were to live the lifestyles of middle-class and upper-class Americans. War is needed for population control. If we don't control it now, the planet will control the population itself eventually.

There are means of population control other than war.
Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: dainthomas
Looks at the facts: very high power, portable, limited firing time, unlimited range. All you'd need is a big spinning mirror and you could vaporize a human target from space!

Unlimited firing range? I think the atmosphere would disagree with you.
Adaptive optics.
 
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