Military assesment shows caravan not a threat but unregulated malitias are

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Hayabusa Rider

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The military is in place for logistical support. Frees up the Border patrol to do their police type activities. Shouldn't be a problem when the caravan is only composed of sick grandmothers and pregnant kids.

Well isn't it great that the DHS said that? Oh, they didn't and why would they? The effort to move the military could cost in the range of a quarter billion dollars to do what anyone else could for a fraction.

It's bullshit.
 

Jhhnn

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Yep, Trump is standing up for small government and against political corruption by spending who knows how many millions of taxpayer dollars on an election campaign publicity stunt.

I saw an estimate of $220M by Jan 1, which will probably be about the time whatever remains of the caravan will get there.

I have to rate it as an unlawful campaign expenditure.
 

Vic

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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/daily-dicta-ick-factor-funding-085403005.html

Nothing like tying up court systems and creating indentured servants. Between the human trafficking, criminals, and creating indentured servants, I guess it's the cost of doing business for the Dems to re-engineer society by encouraging mass waves of people.
Yes, your bizarre and unfounded paranoid delusions justify a ridiculous public expense to benefit the ruling party's election campaign...
Meanwhile, the cost of the courts is the price we pay for the rule of law, which is infinitely less costly than the rule of cult of personality.
 

Vic

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I saw an estimate of $220M by Jan 1, which will probably be about the time whatever remains of the caravan will get there.

I have to rate it as an unlawful campaign expenditure.
It's corruption, pure and simple. The military can't do anything while they're there due to posse comitatus. But hey look, we have all the MAGA's on record supporting Trump's unlawful deployment of the military on American soil!
 

feralkid

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They aren’t a military threat but thousands would quickly overwhelm traditional border security. Technically he is correct, if they cross illegally they are criminals. If they were allowed to simply come in the that’s it, precedent set and we have no border anymore. Nobody wants the military to fire on them as you suggest. They aren’t citizens either, not sure why you think that. No this is not like the Jews in WW2, securing one’s border isn’t genocide. I think you’d find plenty of Jews that would find considerable offense at the comparison to be honest.


Do you know how I know you have never even been to the U.S./ Mexico Border?
 

HomerJS

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Paladin3

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You folks should all agree to meet out in the parking lot and fight it out old-school style, because this thread no longer has anything to do with the caravan.
 

Mr.Vegas

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What? Typical anti-President? Yep, those leftists are super against the Presidency!

Well that's a new one, he outed himself as Russian right away. Pretty sure this isn't the first time I've seen exactly this claim though (Jewish born in Russia, so they can claim how they're both super anti-Nazi more than anyone and not right wing at all, but also super anti-Leftist because Communism, despite them spouting all the right wing and USSR hysteria), so likely just bullshit. Funny that you expect us to take your claim about being a Jewish person from Russia, with no sources, facts, or names.

On the other hand Homeland Security is going to try and backup whatever nonsense the President spouts because he got to choose who runs it, and we've already seen how horrible and willing to lie and cover up their fucked up actions they are.

So why exactly Mr "Jewish person from Russia" are you so concerned with this caravan of people? Are you a legal US Citizen?



Take your own advice. It is when they start out admitting they're very probably part of a campaign to spread FUD by a foreign power.



Thanks for proving how you conservatives cry like the biggest damn babies while you think everyone is as dumb as you are and can't see that you're doing exactly the thing you're crying about (gotta love how you're anti-violence but calling for the military to get involved in this situation, nevermind the other times we've dealt with this situation without the military...), while providing nothing of actual substance (weird how DHS can't do jack shit about crazed right wingers shooting up places in America and sending bombs...) then cry more that people don't buy your lies and bullshit.

What the fuck? What are you doing under his bed?

DOUBLE, UP, THE, TIN, FOIL!
 

Mr.Vegas

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I'm almost certain I've heard someone use this exact claim (Jewish person born in Russia) before, by another account pushing right wing bullshit. I feel like that was on a hijacked account though, where it was someone with thousands of posts where suddenly they started posting this political shit, and when people called them on it, they started claiming that they're Jewish from Russia like that somehow gives them credibility or something.

So many LOLs, its like talking to crowd of clowns with Tin Foil costumes, so much fun!
The lefts obsession with Russian, even the Same exact wording is 1:1 to the wanna-be-Nazi obsession with Jews, you s even speak in same manner and spout same conspiracy theories, replace Russian with Jews and you can copy paste the comment to Stormfront, 4chan or YT comment section.

BTW, hows your Hebrew? Mine is fine or wait, they teach it in secret putin classes!
P.S. I never said im from Russia, not even once.
Never been there.
 
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So many LOLs, its like talking to crowd of clowns with Tin Foil costumes, so much fun!
The lefts obsession with Russian, even the Same exact wording is 1:1 to the wanna-be-Nazi obsession with Jews, you s even speak in same manner and spout same conspiracy theories, replace Russian with Jews and you can copy paste the comment to Stormfront, 4chan or YT comment section.

BTW, hows your Hebrew? Mine is fine or wait, they teach it in secret putin classes!
P.S. I never said im from Russia, not even once.
Never been there
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Was this statement of yours a lie?

"As Jewish person that was born in USSR, I have natural detector for red-bs"
 

Mr.Vegas

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Trump said they'd shoot rock throwers, didn't he? Or was he talking about the militia mowrons?

Stones, molotvs are weapons, even even light 30-40 gram stone in your face will break your nose and damage your face, takeout your teeth, a tad heavier stone will break arm bones and damage internal organs if hit on your belly or spine, 200+ gram stones can break leg bones.
Now image three people throwing such stone one after another and going after you [if your a soldier that was told he cant defend himself, your just a target that cant do anything] or a group of 20, people will not just get harmed but dead.
When Iranis stone women for adultery [they still do], they choose smooth stones that are 10-15 gram so the poor woman wont die right away.
Even if soldiers told they can use batons like police, they still need to come into range, by that time they will be injured or dead or jumping from stones like rabbits.
 

Mr.Vegas

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Was this statement of yours a lie?

"As Jewish person that was born in USSR, I have natural detector for red-bs"

USSR was a country, that [like USA] had different "states" called republics, Russia [the modern country] was only ONE of those republics. So Russia wasn't a real county but a Soviet republic [a state] in Soviet Union.
I was born in Ukrainian SSR
 

Jhhnn

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Stones, molotvs are weapons, even even light 30-40 gram stone in your face will break your nose and damage your face, takeout your teeth, a tad heavier stone will break arm bones and damage internal organs if hit on your belly or spine, 200+ gram stones can break leg bones.
Now image three people throwing such stone one after another and going after you [if your a soldier that was told he cant defend himself, your just a target that cant do anything] or a group of 20, people will not just get harmed but dead.
When Iranis stone women for adultery [they still do], they choose smooth stones that are 10-15 gram so the poor woman wont die right away.
Even if soldiers told they can use batons like police, they still need to come into range, by that time they will be injured or dead or jumping from stones like rabbits.

Not likely. Commanders will likely order retreat rather than allow live fire, which would be a violation of the Posse Comitatus act. It'll never come to that. This isn't the first caravan the US has dealt with.
 
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USSR was a country, that [like USA] had different "states" called republics, Russia [the modern country] was only ONE of those republics. So Russia wasn't a real county but a Soviet republic [a state] in Soviet Union.
I was born in Ukrainian SSR

Fair enough.
 

wirelessenabled

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I'm regulated, the State, Federal and local governments regulate the shit out of all of us. Are you claiming you're not?
The important part here is how are those governments regulating your guns and your use of them. In most places there is virtually no oversight or restrictions.
 

ivwshane

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The important part here is how are those governments regulating your guns and your use of them. In most places there is virtually no oversight or restrictions.

Don't feed the troll, he's miss using the term "well regulated" to mean something it doesn't.
 

zinfamous

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USSR was a country, that [like USA] had different "states" called republics, Russia [the modern country] was only ONE of those republics. So Russia wasn't a real county but a Soviet republic [a state] in Soviet Union.
I was born in Ukrainian SSR

It wasn't a country. It was a federation of territories, many of them cultural, but most of them illegally occupied.

You are a sympathetic Ukrainian. That isn't surprising, but you clearly don't appreciate that much of that territory was terrorized for decades under illegal occupation by the same type of system that you clearly lionize through your inarguable defense of despotism in these forums.
 

brandonbull

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Way more evidence Trump encouraged the synagogue shooter then Dems encouraging the caravan

Really? So Trump said "Hey shoot some people and I will support you."? The Dems are doing everything in their power to encourage and support those types of human waves.