Might convert to "dark side"

PacFu

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I've always been an Intel guy. Simply because of knowledge, and frankly, AMD in my eyes has always been flawed (compatibility and such).

Now I come to today. I am heavy into gaming as well as DVD encoding, photoshop, etc. I just recently upgraged my system, P4 2.8E@3.3, 1GB 3200ram, Abit IC7-G Max2. For the first time in my life, I'm starting to peek over the fence, not that I'm a little more into hardware, I see each companies roadmaps, and AMDs is looking brighter.

Now my P4 2.8E cost me about 190, i875 MB cost me about 130.

What would be the equivilent speed in an A64 and what are good chipsets?

BY THE WAY...
lets check the bashing and cornbread at the door.
 
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AMD will never satisfy your encoding needs as well as intel, but on the A64 plat form, low timing memory isnt necessary and at the moment i think the best chipset for the money is the NForce 3 250Gb with its intergrated firewall.
 

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
AMD will never satisfy your encoding needs as well as intel, but on the A64 plat form, low timing memory isnt necessary and at the moment i think the best chipset for the money is the NForce 3 250Gb with its intergrated firewall.

Well, my memory is 2.5-3-3-8 Corsair Value (with copper HS). Not too worried about that.

Maybe my whole vision in this is a curiosity issue. Then again, OC'ing an AMD is a little more involved than intel, but obviously the headroom is larger.
 

JBT

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uhh what have you seen some of the 939 90nm benchmarks?? it will satisfy his needs no problem....
 

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Your current setup is quite fast for your PS and media encoding needs, and just a little off the pace in gaming so my advice is keep what you have till it's not up to par anymore then take a look at who has the best offering for your needs :light:
 

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By the way, I didnt think AMD had full chip heatspreaders...is this new for 939?
 

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Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Your current setup is quite fast for your PS and media encoding needs, and just a little off the pace in gaming so my advice is keep what you have till it's not up to par anymore then take a look at who has the best offering for your needs :light:

You have one fast setup. Keep it, stay away from AT forums for a year and then ask the same question.
 

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a amd64 3200+ with a nf3 movo would cost about the same u paid for ur prescott =]
and it will smoke it in anything besides encoding but its NOT far behind
 

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Heat is my only major issue. Though prescotts dont run as hot as advertised. 2.8 oc to 3.3 full load is 64C (mb reading). Yea, its warm, but this is also with a 500MHz clock jump.

Maybe I should wait till BTX. My 6800GT is compatible with PCI-Express am I right?
 

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Nope, you have an AGP card=must swap if you go pci-e

edit; if you mean will it work in the board, then there are boards that will take a AGP card, but they include a warning that technical specification differences between AGP and pci-e can cause your agp card's lifespan to be seriously shrtened or even damaged. So if you go pci-e I'd go the same for vid card interface.
 

PacFu

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off topic, I love computer terminology.

"Hey Jimmy, I just downloaded a SCSI interface!"
"You motherboard? Well, did she plug in your harddrive? Or was it a floppy?"
"Well, I forgot to use my scsi terminator plug."
"Oh, so she may have new hardware next release cycle?"


Sorry, I'm a damn child. But it is funny.
 

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with socket 939, amd beats intel in every comparable benchmark. right now, there is nothing intel is better at then amd. not even encoding. dont think amd is flawed. as of now, intel is flawed. they've been doing horribly in the past several months and amd is ahead of the game. its sad, but intel is the underdog.
 

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
with socket 939, amd beats intel in every comparable benchmark. right now, there is nothing intel is better at then amd. not even encoding. dont think amd is flawed. as of now, intel is flawed. they've been doing horribly in the past several months and amd is ahead of the game. its sad, but intel is the underdog.


Agreed.:thumbsup:
 

Zebo

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Keep what you got:)

Or better yet sell/trade that processor and get a northwood.
 

Mik3y

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also, i think the name of this thread should be "Might convert to the 'Light Side'". :) :p
 

jhu

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Originally posted by: chuwawa
I think the "Bright" side is more apt. ;)

yeah, no kidding. prescott is just intel beating a dead horse. on the other hand, pentium m is a chip that i can respect.
 

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: jhu
pentium m is a chip that i can respect.

Does that thing have 64-bit?

Its the best overall mobile processor, and really 64-bit won't really matter for a few more years. I have to agree that AMD makes the best Desktop processors now, next rig of mine won't be Intel.
 

jhu

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Originally posted by: Bluestealth
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: jhu
pentium m is a chip that i can respect.

Does that thing have 64-bit?

Its the best overall mobile processor, and really 64-bit won't really matter for a few more years. I have to agree that AMD makes the best Desktop processors now, next rig of mine won't be Intel.

agreed, although personally i like cheap and fast. amd fits that criteria very well. however, if intel every made a desktop pentium m, i'd be all over that.
 

JBT

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The first thin I thought of when I sw this thread was hmmm I thought that round here Intel was the Dark side not AMD....
 

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Originally posted by: Mik3y
with socket 939, amd beats intel in every comparable benchmark. right now, there is nothing intel is better at then amd. not even encoding. dont think amd is flawed. as of now, intel is flawed. they've been doing horribly in the past several months and amd is ahead of the game. its sad, but intel is the underdog.

Stop being a mindless AMD fanboy.

Oh... I forgot. This is Anandtech.

AMD does NOT lead Intel in video encoding. They significantly TRAIL Intel in video encoding. They do so at every level, down every step, and in all situations besides rips to lossy Xvids.

Get your facts straight.

Also, look at some market share numbers before you call Intel an underdog.

AMD will never be the #1 chip maker. They are an enthusiast/server brand that leads in neither market.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: zenwhen
Originally posted by: Mik3y
with socket 939, amd beats intel in every comparable benchmark. right now, there is nothing intel is better at then amd. not even encoding. dont think amd is flawed. as of now, intel is flawed. they've been doing horribly in the past several months and amd is ahead of the game. its sad, but intel is the underdog.

Stop being a mindless AMD fanboy.

Oh... I forgot. This is Anandtech.

AMD does NOT lead Intel in video encoding. They significantly TRAIL Intel in video encoding. They do so at every level, down every step, and in all situations besides rips to lossy Xvids.

Get your facts straight.

Also, look at some market share numbers before you call Intel an underdog.

AMD will never be the #1 chip maker. They are an enthusiast/server brand that leads in neither market.

Checkout out some .09 micron Athlon64 tests.