Microsoft's "one-play-only" DVD to combat Piracy

[sswingle]

Originally posted by: TStep
God forbid I have to take a bathroom break, or get interupted and watch the movie another day. Crap like this would drive some to piracy rather than curtail it. If this were the case I'd have to rip every movie we buy due to our busy lifestyle, rather than just buy the legit copies we buy now. Fantastic idea.

Exactly. Divx actually fixed this issue, I believe it let you play it for 3 days or something like that, and it failed, so this Microsoft one has no hope at all.

 

[sonoma1993]

and watch microsoft start putting there operating system software on these dvd, as soon you goto a reinstall gotta buy a new dvd.

 

[sswingle]

Oh, and another thing, can we think of any other ways to create more trash? The AOL disks are bad enough, now you will have stacks of watched dvds that are now worthless.

 

[mitmot]

Originally posted by: sonoma1993
and watch microsoft start putting there operating system software on these dvd, as soon you goto a reinstall gotta buy a new dvd.

so I have to make sure I image it before i install it?

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: MrChad


This idea has failed time and time again.

DIVX
Disney disposable DVDs

Yeah really. This "revolutionary" idea sounds just like Divx. Obviously the market didn't want that one, either. And hooray for wastefulness! Throw it away when you're done, our garbage dumps aren't filling over already!

 

[Malfeas]

Yeah, lets make disposable DVD's so that we can fill our landfills even faster!!!!! The MPAA and RIAA are nothing but an association of crooks, who fail to see that the technology they are proposing to 'protect' their industry from piracy is in fact doing more harm than good. They tried to do the same thing with VCR's and recordable tape decks in the 70's and 80's, but it turned out those turned into some of the most profitable sections of the home entertainment industry. And Microsoft isn't any better catering to these morons, but what do you expect from businessmen who are so wealthy that they practically live in a different reality from us common folk, and have subsequently lost the ability to see the world the way we do.

 

[homestarmy]

Wow, so they spent $7,000,000,000 to find a failed technology called DIVX?

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: marvdmartian
This might be good for the awards shows judges, who need to see the movies before they can vote on who's going to win an award, but I doubt it will ever take off in the "real world".
Why should a consumer go out and buy a new dvd player (required for these disks), only to get one viewing from a dvd? I'll keep my cheap dvd player, and my multiple play dvd's, thank you! I just cannot see this taking off in the public sector at all.

Even then its a bad idea. The awards judges should really see a movie more than once before making an educated decision.

That and my old professor would no longer be able to bring them in for us to watch .

We actually voted as a class on what his votes would be and he held veto power. It was pretty sweet!

 

[CKent]

Originally posted by: Quasmo
So I have to make sure my computer rips it the first time its played through?

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: Quasmo
So I have to make sure my computer rips it the first time its played through?

Im sure someone has hacked this technology ALREADY.

 

[nakedfrog]

It's nice to see they're undeterred by the failure of this idea every time it surfaces. And gee, this time all we have to do is buy a new DVD player to watch these movies! I'm sure the consumer will be thrilled with that idea.
I think the cable companies "On Demand" service will trump this sort of idea easily.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: Quasmo
So I have to make sure my computer rips it the first time its played through?

Im sure someone has hacked this technology ALREADY.

And if not, I'm sure DVD Jon will find a way less than 24 hours after it's release.

 

[Cooler]

They need to learn that no way to protect form ripping and stop wasting money.

 

[Chunkee]

yes, lets pollute our earth with more throw away things

GAH! I hate that.

jC

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Shades of DiVX?

 

[sao123]

Bye Bye west coast....

The land from redmond to san francisco is now being taken by eminant domain to provide for additional landfill area for the increase of disposable garbage. The first dumps are scheduled to begin in william gates front yard next Friday.

 

[aiex]

so what happens when you turn away, miss a bit and need to rewind? it blows up in your face?

 

[homestarmy]

Originally posted by: DeadByDawn

Originally posted by: Linflas

Originally posted by: DeadByDawn
Actually I think something like this could catch on. Would eliminate the need for rental stores and would save netflix a ton of money. But you have to convince the consumer to buy a new dvd player first.

Just not on this planet. What consumer would voluntarily give up their ability to play and enjoy a DVD as many times as they want and pony up the cash for new hardware to do it as well?

If the player was as cheap as the $30 apex at wal-mart, and you didn't ever have to return a movie... I might. Consumers are pretty lazy. I know people that pay more in late fees per year than a new dvd player costs.

not any more... life after late fees (also life after actually having any movies in stock)

 

[mugs]

Jeez, you people will piss and moan about anything the movie industry does EXCEPT give you free movies. Nobody is forcing you to buy these discs, you're still free to buy the full priced version that you can watch as many times as you want. You can still rent a regular DVD from Netflix or Blockbuster and pirate it all you want. They're just giving you another option. It probably won't take off, but who knows.

Divx was a long time ago, DVDs are a lot more popular now.

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: mugs
Jeez, you people will piss and moan about anything the movie industry does EXCEPT give you free movies. Nobody is forcing you to buy these discs, you're still free to buy the full priced version that you can watch as many times as you want. You can still rent a regular DVD from Netflix or Blockbuster and pirate it all you want. They're just giving you another option. It probably won't take off, but who knows.

Divx was a long time ago, DVDs are a lot more popular now.

So we are not supposed to notice when a flamingly stupid concept is floated in public? No one here has said they are not free to sink as much cash as they want into this idea.

 

[The Stigenator]

from an enviroment perspective I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS. It will increase landfill usage and will mean more junk. From an economic point of view, why do i spend the 3 dollars when i can rent it for the same price and watch it over and over again if i want to in the time frame needed.

This is a lousy idea.. Microsoft you are not being enviornmentally friendly.. bill gates watch out.. your ass is mine!

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: mugs
Jeez, you people will piss and moan about anything the movie industry does EXCEPT give you free movies. Nobody is forcing you to buy these discs, you're still free to buy the full priced version that you can watch as many times as you want. You can still rent a regular DVD from Netflix or Blockbuster and pirate it all you want. They're just giving you another option. It probably won't take off, but who knows.

Divx was a long time ago, DVDs are a lot more popular now.

Divx came out at nearly the same time as DVD. There were about two years that the Divx format had more players than DVD's in comsumers homes (because of aggresive marketing by CC). The reason DIVX failed is because people don't want disposable discs (ranging from reasons like you can buy a lot of movies these days for less than $12), period. Divx cost Circuit City a 200million dollar write-off, a financial tragedy they still haven't recovered from. M$ can certainly afford a loss like that better than CC but the idea that this recycled idea is going to be "popular" is just assine. Consumers will reject the format just like they did in the past, no one wants someone telling them how they can use media they buy.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Divx came out at nearly the same time as DVD. There were about two years that the Divx format had more players than DVD's in comsumers homes (because of aggresive marketing by CC). The reason DIVX failed is because people don't want disposable discs (ranging from reasons like you can buy a lot of movies these days for less than $12), period. Divx cost Circuit City a 200million dollar write-off, a financial tragedy they still haven't recovered from. M$ can certainly afford a loss like that better than CC but the idea that this recycled idea is going to be "popular" is just assine. Consumers will reject the format just like they did in the past, no one wants someone telling them how they can use media they buy.

How can you say "people don't want disposable discs, period." People rent movies. If they can price the discs about the same as a rental, I think it could succeed. Weren't Divx discs like $5-6? The article listed 3 pounds per disc, which is the same price range, but it also lists 15-20 pounds to buy a DVD which is absurdly high in the US. If they can price them at $3-4 there are people who would buy them rather than renting and returning. Regardless, it's not like Microsoft isn't aware of the Divx failure, and I'm sure they've done a lot more market research than a bunch of guys on an Internet forum who are not the intended customers for a product like this.

Anyway, my point is that everyone latched onto the piracy prevention aspect and got their panties all in a bunch. I honestly don't see how this is going to prevent piracy one bit. The pirates will always find a way until there aren't enough people left willing to pay for movies to support the industry.

And yeah, I think Microsoft can manage to lose $200 million, they've pissed billions down the drain trying to beat Sony at console video games.

Edit:
Regarding this quote: no one wants someone telling them how they can use media they buy.
They're giving you another OPTION. They're not making $20 DVDs one time use, they're giving you the option of buying a one time use DVD instead of renting. They're letting you rent a movie for the same price and not have to return it! If you want to do whatever you want with your DVD, buy the $20 version. If you want to watch it once and never again, buy the much cheaper one-time-use version.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: mugs
How can you say "people don't want disposable discs, period." People rent movies. If they can price the discs about the same as a rental, I think it could succeed. Weren't Divx discs like $5-6? The article listed 3 pounds per disc, which is the same price range, but it also lists 15-20 pounds to buy a DVD which is absurdly high in the US. If they can price them at $3-4 there are people who would buy them rather than renting and returning.

It would take a LONG time for any savings to offset the price of a new player.

Then again I guess people that would go for something like this aren't the type that drop $200 on their DVD players. If MS can put out DVD players for $50 that can play these, AND offer a savings vs renting they might have a shot.

I certainly won't be buying one, Netflix is just too convenient.

Viper GTS

 

[PokerGuy]

So.... let me get this straight. As a consumer I'll be thrilled at having a chance to buy a new DVD player that will only further restrict what I can do with my DVD's, will restrict when/how/how many times I can watch stuff etc? Yay! Count me in!