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Microsoft to purchase Nokia

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Arkaign said:
Hahahah.

This is going to end well 😉
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My thoughts exactly. They blew the mobile OS market while simultaneously ostracizing their desktop OS. Metro was a complete failure. Surface was a failure. Windows phones have always been a failure.

They are doubling (tripling?) down on stupid decisions. EJECT! EJECT! EJECT!

What they should have done was write a unique interface for mobile devices and focus on the OS market. They are years behind google and apple but whatever.
 
Phoenix86 said:
My thoughts exactly. They blew the mobile OS market while simultaneously ostracizing their desktop OS. Metro was a complete failure. Surface was a failure. Windows phones have always been a failure.

They are doubling (tripling?) down on stupid decisions. EJECT! EJECT! EJECT!

What they should have done was write a unique interface for mobile devices and focus on the OS market. They are years behind google and apple but whatever.
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that depends on how you look at things. In the mobile and tablet space they are behind for sure, but on the desktop they're the only name in the game, They rule corporate, and have a big presence in the console market.

we know where things are headed, your phone/tablet is going to replace your desktop (speaking for the general population here)... but! are the phones going to grow into desktop replacements or is the desktop going to shrink into a phone replacement?
 
Since Nokia's fledgling mobile phone sector was not doing so hot, MS had to rescue their only Windows Mobile OEM. Saw it coming.
 
I thought Nokia was worth about $5. Amazing they are still worth that much after Apple, android and blackberry decimated their market share.
 
Broheim said:
can't blame them for taking matters into their own hands when their long time OEMs can't get their shit together.
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This. Every single laptop maker has been a participant in the "race to the bottom".

It doesn't make sense to have a 14"+ laptop with 1366 x 768 resolution, with NO screen upgrades available.
Finally, 1080p is becoming a standard, with increased resolutions available in some flagships.

Lenovo is hit and miss. I'm glad their laptops announced yesterday address a lot of shortcomings that have been plaguing Windows laptop makers for the past 4-5 years.
 
I don't really know the details of this deal but for some reason, I think it's a bad one. Can't imagine the last time MS had good press..
 
foghorn67 said:
This. Every single laptop maker has been a participant in the "race to the bottom".

It doesn't make sense to have a 14"+ laptop with 1366 x 768 resolution, with NO screen upgrades available.
Finally, 1080p is becoming a standard, with increased resolutions available in some flagships.

Lenovo is hit and miss. I'm glad their laptops announced yesterday address a lot of shortcomings that have been plaguing Windows laptop makers for the past 4-5 years.
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I noticed the x240 now has a 1080p option, maybe it's time to retire my x220.
 
Broheim said:
that depends on how you look at things. In the mobile and tablet space they are behind for sure, but on the desktop they're the only name in the game, They rule corporate, and have a big presence in the console market.

we know where things are headed, your phone/tablet is going to replace your desktop (speaking for the general population here)... but! are the phones going to grow into desktop replacements or is the desktop going to shrink into a phone replacement?
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Tablets have a market segment for sure, and it'll chip into the laptop/desktop market. It already has, but that doesn't mean it'll replace the desktop market. People have been claiming the death of the PC for at least a decade. That corporate market they rule is mostly desktops/laptops.

MS is dead in the phone/tablet segment, less than 10% in each. Nokia isn't going to help them, it's a failing manufacturer.

Console market is irrelevant because it's not like people are saying MS dying. It's just that these are shit markets for them to get into, the ship sailed. They needed to develop these markets 5+ years ago, but didn't successfully.
 
foghorn67 said:
This. Every single laptop maker has been a participant in the "race to the bottom".

It doesn't make sense to have a 14"+ laptop with 1366 x 768 resolution, with NO screen upgrades available.
Finally, 1080p is becoming a standard, with increased resolutions available in some flagships.

Lenovo is hit and miss. I'm glad their laptops announced yesterday address a lot of shortcomings that have been plaguing Windows laptop makers for the past 4-5 years.
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Year and a half ago I was laptop shopping. Just wanted a high(er) res screen and mediocre hardware. Pretty much impossible to find. The better screens were always tied to video cards and other accessories or upgrades I didn't need or want, and thus quite a bit more than I wanted to spend.
 
Microsoft should buy Blackberry as well, and put all of the dying cell phone manufacturers out of their misery.

This is good for Nokia, though... they can use that money to get into a new line of business suited more to Finland, like Salmon smoking 🙂
 
Gibsons said:
Year and a half ago I was laptop shopping. Just wanted a high(er) res screen and mediocre hardware. Pretty much impossible to find. The better screens were always tied to video cards and other accessories or upgrades I didn't need or want, and thus quite a bit more than I wanted to spend.
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Same here. I'm lugging around an old Dell from 2008 because I don't want to go backwards in screen resolution and quality. It's almost as if they don't want to compete with MacBook Pro's.
 
foghorn67 said:
Same here. I'm lugging around an old Dell from 2008 because I don't want to go backwards in screen resolution and quality. It's almost as if they don't want to compete with MacBook Pro's.
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Heh. I ended up buying a 17 inch instead just to get more area. Difficult compromise to make. I just don't understand why "a nice screen" is such a problem. 🙁
 
Hmm.. this must have been in their alliance agreement.

But even still, MS has to build a brand that belongs to Android and iOS. it's good they're diversifying since IBM clones won't be around for ever (OK, I know they won't go away soon) but seeing the smartphone boom and thinking "me too!" is harder than it may seem. Win phone's issue is poor promotion. Samsung/Apple AlWAYS advertise. Nokia did shit, but then MS now has the opportunity to capitalise.
 
Gibsons said:
Heh. I ended up buying a 17 inch instead just to get more area. Difficult compromise to make. I just don't understand why "a nice screen" is such a problem. 🙁
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When you have an entire industry that survives on cost-cutting, with products whose only appeal over $1000+ Macbooks is being a whole lot cheaper, it's not hard to see why.
 
Phoenix86 said:
Tablets have a market segment for sure, and it'll chip into the laptop/desktop market. It already has, but that doesn't mean it'll replace the desktop market. People have been claiming the death of the PC for at least a decade. That corporate market they rule is mostly desktops/laptops.

MS is dead in the phone/tablet segment, less than 10% in each. Nokia isn't going to help them, it's a failing manufacturer.

Console market is irrelevant because it's not like people are saying MS dying. It's just that these are shit markets for them to get into, the ship sailed. They needed to develop these markets 5+ years ago, but didn't successfully.
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Yep. They constantly try to enter markets way way way after it's a wise decision, and then they compound their problems by introducing products that nobody really wants, often poorly designed and marketed even worse. The ads for Surface were all hilariously terrible. Windows Phone ads were even worse if that's possible.

The fact that they're sabotaging their Windows desktop is hilariously stupid. Almost beyond conception. Nobody in enterprise wants anything to do with Win8, and it's provably harming consumer desktop/laptop sales as well (PC sales slipping dramatically more than Mac sales post Win8 launch).
 
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