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Microsoft: Pirated XP Keys - No Problem

i installed sp2 beta and it told me i had a bad key which i dont
this is strange as i had installed the beta on the same key just fine previosly
 
Originally posted by: dc5
thers a problem getting windows update v5 on pirated keys though...


FWIW theres a patch to allow V5 updates already out and about
There are also keychangers to input 640 PID strings which makes V5 accessible anyway

Anything done digitally can be undone digitally
 
Originally posted by: oldman420
i installed sp2 beta and it told me i had a bad key which i dont
this is strange as i had installed the beta on the same key just fine previosly


did you change hardware?
Also during beta process, MS blocked some legit keys

In any case, for RTM all you have to do is call up for another
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I wish they would stop allowing the idiots to patch their machines.

Why? Insecure machines, pirated or otherwise, represent a security risk to legitimate installations. Preventing priated machines from installing security patches effectively increases the environment that viruses and hackers thrive in.
 
Originally posted by: Ryoga
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I wish they would stop allowing the idiots to patch their machines.

Why? Insecure machines, pirated or otherwise, represent a security risk to legitimate installations. Preventing priated machines from installing security patches effectively increases the environment that viruses and hackers thrive in.

Good.
 
I know all the good reasons for allowing bootleg XP Updates, but there is no way around the demoralizing effect to peeps who went out and paid full pop for the thing.

Just recently, they caught a 15 yr old hacker in Germany who was responsible for 70% of the virus exploits in the last 6 months. He was turned in by best friend for $250,000 MS reward.

Why dont we just hang him??
Or the spammer who got fined a lousy $50,000 for sending out 2 million emails a week.


http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid14_gci996788,00.html
 
lemme shed some light on my illegal winXP install, maybe you'll agree with me, maybe you wont, now, my ilegal winXP pro is a corp edition and is installed on my lappy, my lappy was delivered with winXP pro, but guess what, no install disks, I didnt want the crap (it came pre-loaded with masses of crap, that couldnt be uninstalled, FAT32 instead of NTFS, hidden recovery partitions taking up half my disc, etc, hence I installed my own (not legal) copy of winXP pro (corp, so as not to have to deal with activation) imho I have a right to have winXP, because it came delivered with my laptop, and imho I should have a choice to decline all the other crap they want to forcibly put on my laptop.

there you have an example of where an illegal copy of winXP is justified, now you might not agree with me, but I suggest you buy a packard bell PC or something and try to live with the crap they put on that, I'd like to hear your opinions after that.
 
Originally posted by: boran
lemme shed some light on my illegal winXP install, maybe you'll agree with me, maybe you wont, now, my ilegal winXP pro is a corp edition and is installed on my lappy, my lappy was delivered with winXP pro, but guess what, no install disks, I didnt want the crap (it came pre-loaded with masses of crap, that couldnt be uninstalled, FAT32 instead of NTFS, hidden recovery partitions taking up half my disc, etc, hence I installed my own (not legal) copy of winXP pro (corp, so as not to have to deal with activation) imho I have a right to have winXP, because it came delivered with my laptop, and imho I should have a choice to decline all the other crap they want to forcibly put on my laptop.

there you have an example of where an illegal copy of winXP is justified, now you might not agree with me, but I suggest you buy a packard bell PC or something and try to live with the crap they put on that, I'd like to hear your opinions after that.

You should have called PB for the disks.
 
Originally posted by: Bozo Galora
Originally posted by: dc5
thers a problem getting windows update v5 on pirated keys though...


FWIW theres a patch to allow V5 updates already out and about
There are also keychangers to input 640 PID strings which makes V5 accessible anyway

Anything done digitally can be undone digitally

yes i know there is a keygen. just didnt want others to know 🙂
 
Originally posted by: boran
lemme shed some light on my illegal winXP install, maybe you'll agree with me, maybe you wont, now, my ilegal winXP pro is a corp edition and is installed on my lappy, my lappy was delivered with winXP pro, but guess what, no install disks, I didnt want the crap (it came pre-loaded with masses of crap, that couldnt be uninstalled, FAT32 instead of NTFS, hidden recovery partitions taking up half my disc, etc, hence I installed my own (not legal) copy of winXP pro (corp, so as not to have to deal with activation) imho I have a right to have winXP, because it came delivered with my laptop, and imho I should have a choice to decline all the other crap they want to forcibly put on my laptop.

there you have an example of where an illegal copy of winXP is justified, now you might not agree with me, but I suggest you buy a packard bell PC or something and try to live with the crap they put on that, I'd like to hear your opinions after that.

You also could have used any legitimate WinXP Pro CD and keyed in your XP key, which should be located on a Certificate of Authenticity sticker somewhere on your laptop.
 
The few original keys that were blocked with SP1 are STILL blocked in SP2.

So anyone with an original corp without any service pack is no better off, are probably not security savvy and they deserve what they get.

The people that have used keygens to install SP1 will still be ok to install SP2, but I'd already heard of keygens for the beta SP2, so it wouldn't have been long before there was one for SP2 final.

TBH, people who care enough to use a keygen and hack their service pack on probably aren't gonna be the ones with the unpatched machines. There's a whole world of legit windows users out there who haven't got a clue about security.

I'd guess M$ knew it wouldn't be long before SP2 got cracked anyway, so just didn't bother.
The more machines with SP2 on the better for them, pirates or not, as it can only help rebuild their tattered reputation when it comes to having a secure OS.
 
Originally posted by: pitupepito2000
why pirate windows when you can get linux?

Linux isnt that friendly a desktop O/S , and some people havent the time to spend , relearning a new O/S nevermind the headaches they find when a lot of their games dont run under Transgaming's Cedega.

(note to linux nazi's - being different is not necessarily a good thing!)
 
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I wish they would stop allowing the idiots to patch their machines.

M$ is hardly an altruistic corporation so they must have their self inrerest at stake.
 
MS at first said SP2 on pirated XP would be vigorously blocked.
Then they said, no thats FUD.
Then one day before release, they say "yeah its better for internet security"
In my personal opinion, the fact they are being sued all over the world for security leaks, had a lot to do with it, so they bit their lip and let it happen. Must have been a lot of agonized discussion over in Redwood.

There are 640 PID generators, lists of unused 640 Keys for everything - XPCorp 2003ServerCorp and office XPCorp
There are ser keychangers, admin passw changers, V5 access patches, key viewers.
There are lists of banned keys and lists of banned PID ranges.
There are keylists for Pro, keylists for Pro SP1.

You can get anything you want at Alice's Restaurant. (Arlo Guthrie)

Personally, I'm not even installing SP2 - its all security and Firewall and antivirus. And it will prob wreck a lot of apps.
SP1 is fine until Longhorn.
 
Originally posted by: Pandamonium
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You also could have used any legitimate WinXP Pro CD and keyed in your XP key, which should be located on a Certificate of Authenticity sticker somewhere on your laptop.

tried that, didnt work, I think it's oem specific.

and it's an acer laptop, I was just giving packard bell as an example.

and no acer does not hand out any installation discs out here, you have to make do with their recovery discs.

hence I said fckit, I'd like to decide what crap I install on my PC instead of them.
 
all you need is the OEM XP SP1 cd, like the one they sell at newegg, i had the same exact problem with a friends gateway laptop, all the crap preloaded on it was starting to consume more and more memory, so i brought my OEM cd over and we just used the key on the bottom of the laptop. if you can't find one i could supply you with it EDIT: the cd that is
 
In my personal opinion, the fact they are being sued all over the world for security leaks, had a lot to do with it, so they bit their lip and let it happen. Must have been a lot of agonized discussion over in Redwood.

This has nothing to do with it. MS is still blocking the original massively shared keys, they don't know how to block keygen'd keys, hence they are not. The fact that marketing is spinning this as a community service, well, thats what marketing does 😉

Personally, I'm not even installing SP2 - its all security and Firewall and antivirus. And it will prob wreck a lot of apps. SP1 is fine until Longhorn.

Thats just wrong (and dumb).

Bill
 
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