Microsoft now gets in the CD copy protection business!

Sundog

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"The PC layer, laid digitally on the same disc, can be modified by the content provider, so that they could prevent, for example, burning songs onto another CD, said David Fester, general manager, digital media entertainment for Microsoft.
Universal Music and EMI, two of the biggest record labels in the world, ?are very excited about this because it enables the industry to build a CD with their own protections built in,? he said, speaking at the Midem music conference in southern France."
 

Darein

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I wonder how long this will take to get a work around? Probably not all that long.
 

Zim Hosein

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Originally posted by: Darein
I wonder how long this will take to get a work around? Probably not all that long.

Agreed :)
 

kami333

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maybe we'll have to use different colored ones. I got a whole pack of the assorted color ones, I want to test them out!
 

Jombo

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yea i think MS was always into it, esp w/ tripped out MS Auth CDs. did you guys see the holograms on the XP Pro disc? (thanks to the $48 deal :D) pretty nifty. but i think when they got into the vid game mkt w/ XBOX, they got more serious about the CD protection, and piracy in general. they shut down the Lik-sang website for some time due to piracy/ mod chip issues.

but yea, MS sure seems to be winning that battle. since everyone owns their copy of MS OS and Office
 

Zugzwang152

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Originally posted by: majewski9
The copy protection ideas are pointless will just find a way around them.

who knows what MS can do. Never say never, but I think they are better off throwing their money into making good products that are worth buying, rather than trying to copy protect sh!tty products.
 

Vette73

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I think most of you are forgetting this is MS. It is not a question of how long this will work, BUT how long they can keep selling it, as they are MS and it must be worth more than the others.
 

Spencer278

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It is just one more reason not to buy a CD. If a got a CD and couldn't rip it to my hard drive and then make a remix CD with the few good songs why bother buying it when there is a better product for free only line takes no time to get and works right.
 

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Originally posted by: kami333
maybe we'll have to use different colored ones. I got a whole pack of the assorted color ones, I want to test them out!


Gimmie a dollar
 

amnesiac

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They can put all the copy protection they want on CDs, if the albums suck and aren't worth buying it's a moot point.
 

Murpheeee

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you would think MS would be more concerned about preventing piracy of their own software than helping out the RIAA
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stebesplace

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Well, i guess you will always have smart people who can crack it, or at least use the cracks themselves, this is only to filter the average user who knows very little, and only recieves word of mouth information. So it will cut a bunch of people out of the loop. But there will always be those that want more, so they will get the info and get what they want, myself included.
 

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MS is all about preventing casual copying. Their philosophy is that people who go out of their way to pirate something probably wouldn't buy the thing in the first place so they're really not losing a sale there.

If they make it enough of a PITA, then they'll feel like its a success.

So for them its not really a question of how its cracked....more of how hard is it to crack.
 

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Originally posted by: Shiva112
MS is all about preventing casual copying. Their philosophy is that people who go out of their way to pirate something probably wouldn't buy the thing in the first place so they're really not losing a sale there.

If they make it enough of a PITA, then they'll feel like its a success.

So for them its not really a question of how its cracked....more of how hard is it to crack.

Ding ding, we have a winner. Hell, for all logical purposes SD2 protection is more then sufficent as it stops probably 90% of all would be copiers because they don't know about clonecd or alchohol 120%, etc... just because we know it will be cracked, who cares? If you're smart enough to figure out and learn about how to break the protection on it, they already assume they've lost the sale to you. Better to detere the mass market with silly protection schemes
 

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Originally posted by: Sundog
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"The PC layer, laid digitally on the same disc, can be modified by the content provider, so that they could prevent, for example, burning songs onto another CD, said David Fester, general manager, digital media entertainment for Microsoft.
Universal Music and EMI, two of the biggest record labels in the world, ?are very excited about this because it enables the industry to build a CD with their own protections built in,? he said, speaking at the Midem music conference in southern France."

how does it prevent me from doing something with an audio file?
 

Vic

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True copy protection of an audio CD is impossible. If it can be played, it can be recorded.
 

Tripleshot

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This sounds to me as a protection method that would require the RIAA t ouse a different media to make their music on, and our CD-RW's would not be able to copy from them disc to disc, but if I pay (which I do ,BTW) for my Cd's and put them on my computer to use to make custom CD's of my favorite songs from mutiple sources (which I do now) how would that be addressed? In other words, once the music is on the PC, what can Msoft do to prevent me from copying whatever is on my HDD to my CD-R and doing with it what I want?

Makes no sense. Unless the issue is the new media can never be copied to a HDD. That being the case, another layer isolating the RIAA cd from the computer should get around that method no problem.

At any rate, Msoft does not need to placate the RIAA or any of its offshoots for its own financial gain. This would recieve a backlash from those of us who buy Msoft products.