microsoft networking with two networks

phrawd

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We have 3 computers at work and they are set up with static ip addresses that are internet accessible (not intranet addresses when ipconfig is run). I recently added a wireless router to one of them and it now accesses the internet through that router. I cloned the mac address of its network card because I'm not sure if I'm allowed to set up a router.

Anyways I want to network them all so they can all access each others' files etc. The two computers that I didn't touch can see each other (like before) but they can't see the new computer behind the router. The computer on the router CAN access the other computers by addressing them in the RUN box by their IP. The computer on the router is isolated.

How can I set it up to get that computer visible on the network? Is there a way to do this such that any wireless computers connecting through that router will also show up in the workgroups/etc?

I have no ability to access the switch/router that gives those three computers their internet functionality.

Cheers!
 

redhatlinux

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Phrawd, I'm sucking air on a similar simple problem but I think that you must specically setup the new computers name and specific user name that you want to be allowed into the share group. not sure so its just 2cents

Eric
 

nweaver

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quick question on why here...

why setup the router? are you natting other PC's behind it, as well as the third Live IP CD?

You cannot just add a router and go on your merry way, as you have to figure subnetting, default routes, local vs remote, port forwarding, etc.
 

JackMDS

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You cannot make the computers visible because you have three Independent WAN Networks, in order to share resources you need one cohesive LAN. If you do not want to reconfigure your Network, you can try to use a Remote Control Program over the Internet.

Link to: Ultr@VNC (Remote Control for your Network/Internet) - Installation, and Settings

In Most cases, the use of three consumers External IP does not provide any advantage what so ever.

Clone the main MAC (could be that it is not even necessary), configure the Router with the Static IP of the Computer that use it before the Router.

If it does not work, you would have to call the ISP.

Plug all of your computers to the Router and configure a nice cohesive Network.

Log to this page it has a lot of links to instructions to Windows Network Settings, and Sharing.

Link to: Windows Network - Installing & Sharing.

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phrawd

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The reason for doing this is very simple. We have a lot of extra staff in the summer and no ports in the laboratory where we can setup computers (the location of the other computers where the router is, is full). We need to offer them internet access and felt the best way was with wireless. I just wanted to 'get it back to the way it was' but also have wireless access available. I cannot plug all three computers into the router because one computer is in a different room and I can't run an ethernet cable to it and definitely don't want to splice out the original cable. This is all behind a major research university's network and as you can imagine they are slow to act and install additional ports and I think I'm not even allowed to run a wireless router (although I do have it secured).

Would a solution be to setup port forwarding on the router for workgroup traffic to go to the wired PC? I know that would not allow the wireless computers to be part of the neighborhood but it does get it back to the way it was and is safer than the DMZ.

Cheers,
Marshall
 

JackMDS

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Leave every thing as is, put two Wireless Cards into the remote computers, and configure them to work with the Wireless Router.

Make sure that the Internet TCP/IP is Not bound to File Sharing, and Bind the Wireless TCP/IP to the File and Printer sharing.

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phrawd

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That is a clever way to do it, although a bit costly :) Thanks for the suggestion it may be what I end up going with if I can't get it any other way.
 

phrawd

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I put the router PC in the DMZ and addressed setup all of the shares using IPs. It works but does not allow browsing. Oh well :D