Microsoft Java Virtual Machine

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P0ldy

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Originally posted by: willstay
Amount of RAM has no impact on Sun's JRE.
A PII with 64MB of RAM didn't like the latest version of Sun Java today when I was messing with it.
 

IBuyUFO

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Originally posted by: kamper
D@mn straight. I'm glad sun got ms to keep their filthy paws off of java! The loss of desktop integration is regretable but well worth it.

Edit: this was in response to ncage's post

Yep, good sun gave it to microsoft and we lose. Now we have crappy java virtual machine that hogs/leaks memory like crazy and runs slow as hell.
 

Nothinman

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Yep, good sun gave it to microsoft and we lose. Now we have crappy java virtual machine that hogs/leaks memory like crazy and runs slow as hell.

Oh come on, it's not like MS didn't do anything wrong here.
 

kamper

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Originally posted by: IBuyUFO
Originally posted by: kamper
D@mn straight. I'm glad sun got ms to keep their filthy paws off of java! The loss of desktop integration is regretable but well worth it.

Edit: this was in response to ncage's post

Yep, good sun gave it to microsoft and we lose. Now we have crappy java virtual machine that hogs/leaks memory like crazy and runs slow as hell.
You don't lose. If you don't like java you don't have to use it. Honestly, how many applets do you encounter in web pages? How many times a day are you forced to use java against your will?

Besides which, I think we all gained at least a little by having microsoft bumped off of java. They created .NET as a replacement which is certainly working well for them and their users and it keeps them from ruining java for those who find it useful as it is right now. The diversity is definitely good for the development community as a whole.
 

kamper

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
How many times a day are you forced to use java against your will?
Weekly when I do my timesheet for work :/
If it really pains you then I'm sorry you have to go through it. I guess you've kind of proved me wrong about not being forced to use java, at least in a corporate context, but I think we all run into programs that we don't appreciate sooner or later (can't please everyone). I doubt you'd be much better off if microsoft had continued working with java.
 

Nothinman

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The corporation behind java is kind of irrelevant, it's a POS no matter who writes the jre.
 

rookie1010

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do i type java-version in the command prompt to find out what version of the Java Virtual Machine i have?
 

kamper

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java -version

Note the space, java is the executable, -version is the parameter