Microsoft gives up on spyware

jeffeh

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Not to sure what to expect from Vista. They seem to be dropping all the important aspects that people want. Oh well, their lose. All hail Apple ;)
 

teddyv

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So I am guessing I should start thinking about adding a wickedly fast smaller drive just for my OS?
 

flashbacck

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"Social engineering is a very, very effective technique. We have statistics that show significant infection rates for the social engineering malware. Phishing is a major problem because there really is no patch for human stupidity," he said.

:D
 
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so make it illegal and use it as an extension of US foreign policy so that we can invade those fvkers.
 

LikeLinus

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Ulfwald

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Time to really switch over to Linux servers, workstations, etc.
 

micr0be

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It's all good people, soon the Microsoft marketing team / spin doctors will convince us that Windows Defender & Vista will keep us secure.
 

micr0be

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Yes. A fvckn great idea. Except. Linux runs none of my favorite programs or games. LOL

And what makes you think Linux is immune to MalwarE?!
 

Minerva

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If everyone started using Linux all in a sudden you would have all kinds of malware attacking your roots. Then the abandoned MS platform would suddenly become immune to new threats. See a pattern here?

Cut off your RJ45's and wrap your head up in wool blankets if you want to be safe. ;) -M
 

her209

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Originally posted by: Minerva
If everyone started using Linux all in a sudden you would have all kinds of malware attacking your roots. Then the abandoned MS platform would suddenly become immune to new threats. See a pattern here?

Cut off your RJ45's and wrap your head up in wool blankets if you want to be safe. ;) -M
No, its called, stop fvckin' visiting pr0nsites with admin privileges.
 

jagec

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Only a user with no common sense and no firewall will get infected. It's sort of like STDs, really.
 

Fraggable

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It's sad, but what they said is true. Windows is as good as dead if you get a nasty rootkit. I'm not enough of a programmer to know if MS does a shoddy job of actually defending against them so I won't throw mud.

There's no way I'll switch to Linux, there's so little software and drivers available for it.

I might switch to Mac OS if it gets bad enough or Vista is a big pile of poop.
 

sniperruff

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Originally posted by: jagec
Only a user with no common sense and no firewall will get infected. It's sort of like STDs, really.

most of the time. i remember the freaking blaster worm though.
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: Minerva
If everyone started using Linux all in a sudden you would have all kinds of malware attacking your roots. Then the abandoned MS platform would suddenly become immune to new threats. See a pattern here?

Cut off your RJ45's and wrap your head up in wool blankets if you want to be safe. ;) -M

The general public wouldnt touch Linux with a 4 foot pole. Once the command prompt stuff is gone, M$ would be screwed.
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Time to really switch over to Linux servers, workstations, etc.


Linux is your friend :D That being said, I manage ~2000 workstations and spyware is kept under control with software and human policies.
 

Fraggable

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Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Time to really switch over to Linux servers, workstations, etc.


Linux is your friend :D That being said, I manage ~2000 workstations and spyware is kept under control with software and human policies.

There is no alternative to smart surfing and a general understanding of computer security. Sadly, the average computer user will never have either of those.

I'm looking into server-level spyware scanning now, there doesn't seem to be a ton of great products out there.

Great. I just ran RootkitRevealer and it looks like I have at least 1. I installed this OS 2 weeks ago.
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: Fraggable
Originally posted by: DaiShan
Originally posted by: Ulfwald
Time to really switch over to Linux servers, workstations, etc.


Linux is your friend :D That being said, I manage ~2000 workstations and spyware is kept under control with software and human policies.

There is no alternative to smart surfing and a general understanding of computer security. Sadly, the average computer user will never have either of those.

I'm looking into server-level spyware scanning now, there doesn't seem to be a ton of great products out there.

Great. I just ran RootkitRevealer and it looks like I have at least 1. I installed this OS 2 weeks ago.


You sys admins need to at least use a proxy to control access to websites, letting your users surf wherever they want is asking to get an infection.
 

mrSHEiK124

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Originally posted by: flashbacck
"Social engineering is a very, very effective technique. We have statistics that show significant infection rates for the social engineering malware. Phishing is a major problem because there really is no patch for human stupidity," he said.

:D

The man has a point. Linux won't save you from "But they said that as a valued PayPal customer they needed my password, SSN, credit card number, checking account, driver's license number, bank routing number........."