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Microsoft Ends Mainstream Support For Windows 7

Get it over it,Win10 not far away,not like you guys are not used to upgrading etc.. 🙂 .


I had to get over DOS 6.22 many decades ago for Windows and Commodore Amiga to IBM PCs,how times have changed 😀 .
 
7 is just obsolete to a current patched Win 8.1 in 2015.
What stops me from using 8 is this:

Do you get an error upon every restart in 8.1?

Still can't figure that one out. After formatting, setting up everything perfectly, restart and bam, brief error, happens randomly but too much for my OCD, damages my brain cells

It only happens on MY Alienware 18, the 3 other DELL laptops I own don't have it! I'm betting it's something to do with the drivers I install since the software and the AV installed are identical. They are all the latest drivers from DELL

Second thing is, My Benchmarks are 10 to 15% lower in Windows 8.1
 
What stops me from using 8 is this:

Do you get an error upon every restart in 8.1?

Still can't figure that one out. After formatting, setting up everything perfectly, restart and bam, brief error, happens randomly but too much for my OCD, damages my brain cells

It only happens on MY Alienware 18, the 3 other DELL laptops I own don't have it! I'm betting it's something to do with the drivers I install since the software and the AV installed are identical. They are all the latest drivers from DELL

Second thing is, My Benchmarks are 10 to 15% lower in Windows 8.1

Very weird,never had that issue on my two Win8.1 PCs,I do have two Linux PCs as well.

Btw fast bootup enabled?..I find Win8/8.1 better with fast boot disabled.
 
Very weird,never had that issue on my two Win8.1 PCs,I do have two Linux PCs as well.

Btw fast bootup enabled?..I find Win8/8.1 better with fast boot disabled.
I can't really remember, I usually disable it because when I shut down I want a full shut down not a Hybrid Shutdown but the other 3 laptops I own have Fast Boot enabled.

It's really strange man, when I first install Windows 8.1.1 the issue doesn't happen, after the Windows updates, it starts happening randomly, then after installing all drivers, it happens every restart. the error is too quick to even take a screenshot of it

Hence why I stick to Windows 7 because I can't live with a PC error upon every restart

Might be one of the updates doing this but it isn't easy to isolate.

It's too much work to wipe everything and try again to be honest so I won't bother

thanks for the suggestion though

PS: I have all Metro apps uninstalled if that makes any difference, like Mail, Finance, Weather, Contacts, Calendar, OneNote (since it gets installed with Office anyway), Music, Videos, everything except the ones you can't uninstall like Photos and Webcam

Dunno if those missing metro apps can cause such an issue.....but again......why is the error only invoked upon a restart is beyond me
 
(Looking into my Crystal ball) 8 et al. is going to end up like Vista. So much hate, but Microsoft tweaks a couple things, calls it the next release (10), and people will think it's the best thing ever.
 
What stops me from using 8 is this:

Do you get an error upon every restart in 8.1?

Still can't figure that one out. After formatting, setting up everything perfectly, restart and bam, brief error, happens randomly but too much for my OCD, damages my brain cells

It only happens on MY Alienware 18, the 3 other DELL laptops I own don't have it! I'm betting it's something to do with the drivers I install since the software and the AV installed are identical. They are all the latest drivers from DELL

Second thing is, My Benchmarks are 10 to 15% lower in Windows 8.1

Likely drivers, as for benchmarks which ones? That is probably drivers (or throttling for an alienware 18).
 
Likely drivers, as for benchmarks which ones? That is probably drivers (or throttling for an alienware 18).

Not sure if it's the same person as the OP, but someone on these forums keeps going on about losing 10 points or something from Unigine - something that is within margin of error.
 
Seems kind of early, Windows 7 is still the defacto standard OS for desktops now days. Microsoft would like it to be 8, but they need to wakeup and smell the coffee. People/companies want a desktop OS on a desktop, not a tablet OS.

I'm sure it will be like XP where they keep extending the support though. I just can't see them ending support this early. Heck, my company is currently testing windows 7 and slowly beginning to upgrade from XP. I'm sure lot of companies are in the same boat too.
 
Seems kind of early, Windows 7 is still the defacto standard OS for desktops now days. Microsoft would like it to be 8, but they need to wakeup and smell the coffee. People/companies want a desktop OS on a desktop, not a tablet OS.

I'm sure it will be like XP where they keep extending the support though. I just can't see them ending support this early. Heck, my company is currently testing windows 7 and slowly beginning to upgrade from XP. I'm sure lot of companies are in the same boat too.

I doubt support will be extended; regardless security update support remains through 2020. This isn't end of life for Win7.
 
I had to get over DOS 6.22 many decades ago for Windows and Commodore Amiga to IBM PCs,how times have changed 😀 .
What an exaggeration! Lol. Did someone hold a gun to your head and tell you that you couldn't use DOS and Amiga anymore? That's just as silly as disallowing someone from listening to 50s-90s music and forcing them to listen to Justin Bieber. I would swiftly grab their gun and shoot off that persons feet and arms so that they could never have the ability to point a gun at my head again. 😀
 
Seems kind of early, Windows 7 is still the defacto standard OS for desktops now days. Microsoft would like it to be 8, but they need to wakeup and smell the coffee. People/companies want a desktop OS on a desktop, not a tablet OS.

I'm sure it will be like XP where they keep extending the support though. I just can't see them ending support this early. Heck, my company is currently testing windows 7 and slowly beginning to upgrade from XP. I'm sure lot of companies are in the same boat too.
This date was set back when SP1 was released so it's no like they are just now deciding to abandon it. And it will still get security updates until 2020 which are the only updates that really matter
 
Oh ok, I thought this meant they were no longer updating it. So basically it's just they wont help you if you call and need help. Not that their outsourced support is of much help anyway, they just google stuff too. 😛
 
Oh ok, I thought this meant they were no longer updating it. So basically it's just they wont help you if you call and need help. Not that their outsourced support is of much help anyway, they just google stuff too. 😛


No - they aren't issuing new features or basic bug fixes anymore.
 
No DX12 means a lot to gamers and no IE12 means a lot to web devs.

On the former....maybe, if they have the hardware and games exist. On the latter: not really. If there are enough people on previous versions of IE, they'll support it. Largely though, the days of writing special code of IE6, Firefox, Opera, Safari and Netscape are long gone. I worked at a web dev company in 06. That was hell...but you don't need to worry about that so much anymore, unless you're leveraging specific features of that browser.
 
7 is just obsolete to a current patched Win 8.1 in 2015.

Look up the word obsolete.

According to netmarketshare.com, Windows 7 has 56% of the total computer OS market.

Even Windows XP still has a larger share than Win8x, so despite XP being obsolete according to some definitions of the word (no longer officially supported, many software and hardware makers don't regard it as a priority any more), it's still going pretty strong.

Probably a better word for XP's situation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsolescence
 
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Something can be obsolete AND still in use. The T-72 and T-80 both see widespread use, but are both obsolete. 😉

Yeah, I was wondering how I would explain the word obsolete to a child, and it's a bit complicated provided that there is still a sensible use for it. I think there are several factors to consider before labelling something as obsolete.

Example: A relative gave me a nice pen for my 21st birthday.

Reasons to consider it obsolete:

1 - Better alternatives are available (ie. methods for storing information)
2 - It's probably no longer in production.

Reasons for it not to be considered obsolete:

1 - Consumables for it are still in production / available to buy.
2 - It does its job as well as it did on day one.
3 - It performs certain functions more conveniently than other methods of storing information.

I suppose a particular typewriter could be considered obsolete given similar arguments but simply because consumables aren't available for it any more. However, a typewriter has one or two advantages over newer alternatives depending on who is meant to use it.

I suppose a quill and ink pot should be considered obsolete because even though consumables are readily available, there are better alternatives available and it no longer does anything better than the alternatives.

Considering Windows 7 as obsolete is like saying a model 2013 car is obsolete because a model 2014 car is available. The latter may have improved xyz, but that's about it. Windows 7 is even still available to buy new (legitimately)!

I suppose I might consider the word obsolete to also mean that there are serious obstacles in the way of using a particular item and there are (all round) better, newer alternatives available. 'Almost useless', perhaps.
 
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(Looking into my Crystal ball) 8 et al. is going to end up like Vista. So much hate, but Microsoft tweaks a couple things, calls it the next release (10), and people will think it's the best thing ever.

when it came out 8 was lousy. 8.1 Update is pretty good--i wouldnt go back to 7. It still needs some tweaks, but im quite happy with 8.1 right now.
 
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