Microsoft ending support for Windows 98/ME

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Windows XP is leaps and bounds better than Windows 98..especially when XP was released.. but now.. numerous flaws have been exposed from the Windows XP operating system... I would be willing to bet that there are more flaws with Windows XP today, than there was with Windows 98 in its time.. so, based on that alone, today we could call Windows XP a POS operating system.. since you like to use the term quite alot in these forums..

Statistically speaking, that makes sense. More lines-of-code == more bugs.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: spike spiegal
The biggest advantage with NT 3.51 (that MS wrecked with NT 4.0) is the video subsystem didn't have access to Ring(0), so faulty Direct X commands couldn't lock your system like they do in XP and Windows 2000. Microsoft *finally* fixed that debacle with Server 2003.

In other respects Microsoft's biggest FUBAR wasn't killing off the Win95/98 Kernel soo enough because all it did was slow down the evolution of the much superior NT4 to Win2k/XP migration. I figure all foot dragging MS did with Win98 and ME put Windows development behind by 3-4 years.

Agreed with the first.. MS took a well-designed OS and proceeded to cut corners with it, for marketing reasons. That's one other thing that delayed the switch from Win9x to an NT-based OS: video performance and benchmarking.

I don't think that MS were really dragging their feet though. I think that the marketplace itself is what caused Win9x to live on for so long. Not to mention the lesser driver support that NT had, compared to Win9x. (No multimedia on NT for you!)

 

[TenBlue]

The performance in 98 seems to be ok:

http://www.devhardware.com/c/a/Software/Win98SE-vs-WinXP/

I didn't much like XP, I stuck with 2000 as it seemed to be a bit more responsive. The people I speak to who still use 98 either use it for compatibility, the cost of upgrading (and the fact they just don't need to) or because they hate the bloat that modern MS operating systems seem to come with.

I don't think that MS were really dragging their feet though. I think that the marketplace itself is what caused Win9x to live on for so long

Do you mean because people didn't feel the need to get the latest OS as soon as it came out?

 

[Stumps]

I still use 98 and ME on a few systems mainly for older programs, although I do have a 2.66ghz P4 that I run a lot of recent games like DOOM 3 and HL2 on. I can't see any problem with that, they run just fine.

 

[Ausm]

Win98 SE was ok but Win ME was a joke.


Ausm

 

[Link19]

Originally posted by: Ausm
Win98 SE was ok but Win ME was a joke.


Ausm

They both stink. It was ridiculous to use either one to run any kind of modern post 2001 game on!!

 

[jlbenedict]

Windows 98 Second Edition rocked!
:thumbsup:


I wish there were drivers for all of my hardware to support Windows 98.. life would be bliss

 

[Link19]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Windows 98 Second Edition rocked!
:thumbsup:


I wish there were drivers for all of my hardware to support Windows 98.. life would be bliss

I am so happy there isn't. It would make life so much more painful for Windows 2K and XP users haivng to suffer with less performance because the developers spent their time writing drivers for POS Windows 98/ME, rather than optimzing drivers for good quality operating systems like Windows 2000/XP.

I would have barfed if their were NForce 4 drivers for POS Windows 98/ME. High end hardware used for for the sole purpose of running POST 2001 software had no place supporting POS Windows 98/ME as far back as early 2002!!

 

[MadRat]

Damn, Link19, you've done your trolling in this thread aplenty. Let other people get some words in for a change.

 

[Stumps]

Originally posted by: Link19

Originally posted by: jlbenedict
Windows 98 Second Edition rocked!
:thumbsup:


I wish there were drivers for all of my hardware to support Windows 98.. life would be bliss

I am so happy there isn't. It would make life so much more painful for Windows 2K and XP users haivng to suffer with less performance because the developers spent their time writing drivers for POS Windows 98/ME, rather than optimzing drivers for good quality operating systems like Windows 2000/XP.

I would have barfed if their were NForce 4 drivers for POS Windows 98/ME. High end hardware used for for the sole purpose of running POST 2001 software had no place supporting POS Windows 98/ME as far back as early 2002!!

whats it to you any way if I use Win98se on my P4 2.66ghz for gaming...you're a wanker plain and simple....from your incoherant ramblings I suspect you have never actually used a win9x based OS and have only read some review posted by a linux geek.

dude go back into the hole you crawled out of your crap opinion isn't wanted here

 

[Geomagick]

I moved away from win98 as soon as I could. It was a horrible operating system IMHO.

I changed to win2000 which although not perfect was so much more stable and the small compatabilty issues with some games was the only real inconvienience.

I now use WinXP Pro SP2 for my desktop and represents a great improvement on win2000, although some of the original compatability issues do still remain but I couldn't really care now.

I have just started using Mac OS 10.4 now on my new Macbook and this is superb, very fluid and really intuitive to use.

 

[Link19]

whats it to you any way if I use Win98se on my P4 2.66ghz for gaming...you're a wanker plain and simple....from your incoherant ramblings I suspect you have never actually used a win9x based OS and have only read some review posted by a linux geek.

dude go back into the hole you crawled out of your crap opinion isn't wanted here

Windows 2000/XP users and the whole modern computing industry would be better off if support for POS Windows 98/ME were dorpped a long time ago. I have used Windows 9X. It is completely different from Windows NT/2000/XP and it is a PIECE OF JUNK OS. It is unstable, inefficient, and flat out inferior to any true 32-bit OS ever created. Application performance would have been so much better the last few years if they were designed for Windows 2000/XP only and didn't support the natively completely different POS Win 9X OS architecture. Could you imagine if devlopers wrote native Windows software and just said it supported Linux using the same files because Linux supports Windows software through WINE. Now performance would be much better if those applications were designed using native Linux binaries. The same can be said about having to support the two ompletely different OS architectures of Windows NT and Windows 9X using the same binaries. Of course performance owuld be better using native NT only binaries.

All thanks to people like you who blindly insisted on sticking with such a POS OS on high end hardware for running modern games, my hopes of seeing a lot of native Windows 2000/XP optimized software and games took WAY WAY TOO LONG to become a reality.

This is a thread about Microsoft dumping Windows 98/ME, so talking about how bad those POS opertaing systems were is very welcome here.

 

[MadRat]

Trolling a thread with the same worthless crap is not welcome here, Link19.

 

[Link19]

I love the results of this poll. Very little people use POS Windows 98/ME anymore!!

 

[stash]

We got it. Move along.

 

[Link19]

One month remians until extended support ends for POS Windows 98/ME. I can't wait for those POS operating systems to die the painful death they deserve in the electric chair!!

 

[jlbenedict]

oh my.. up from the dead

 

[stash]

Please just ignore him.